Since the day I bought my s510 xtra fac I( have regretted not spending the extra for an ultimate sporter. PA had a .25 US refurb (the one with the q-tec mod) for I think $1249... I can't remember but I paid something like $1100 for mine. Worth every penny I say. They are beautiful rifles. Air Arms would do well to join in on the regulated/shot count fun though. No reason they can't use a larger tube and wind a reg. into it.