Any suggestions for a light scope for Prods?

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Hey All,

I really like the AMX reticles that Hawke uses, but my 2-7x32 Airmax makes my Prod top-heavy, so I know the 4-12x40 isn't gonna work. I prefer half-mildot markings, but I can live with a regular mildot scope if the dots are not too big like in some cheaper scopes. I would prefer 4-12x mag, but I can live with a smaller tube than 40mm, if need be..

Any suggestions?

What are you using on your Prods?

:-) Chickie

[barlows]

I've got the UTG 3-12x44 compact with the etched glass reticle. I like it, but it's a good 8 ounces heavier than your Airmax, so probably won't be something you're interested in.

Scopes can be such a personal thing. If you're looking to save weight, maybe a Vantage 4 x 32 AO would be worth a look. It comes with a Mil Dot reticle, although it's a little thicker than some. 

Anyway, best of luck with the search.

/Steve

[Smaug2]

Burris Timberline 4.5-14x32. Excellent scope. Long eye relief, clear glass. Being only a 32mm objective, it is not as bright as something similar with 40, but since the glass is clearer than UTG and this level of Hawke, it ends up looking just as good.

I have one on my HW30s to keep weight down without losing magnification.

Now that you mention it, I may move it over to my P-Rod, since its shoulder stock is a bit long to let me get my eye as close as I need with the Cheapers 6X Bugbuster that I like so well. (other than its short eye relief and fat reticle) It would be PERFECT, and I shoot the P-Rod a lot more than the HW30s anyway.

[39M]

Burris Timberline 4.5-14x32



Twice the magnification, about 2 ounces lighter. But about $100 more. Maybe still too heavy or too much money?

Simmons 44Mag 6-21x44 Mil Dot Side Focus http://www.simmonsoptics.com/riflescopes/44_mag.aspx
$149, 11.8 ounces. So about 30% lighter and $30 cheaper than your Airmax.

http://www.opticsplanet.com/simmons-44mag-6-21x44-side-parallax-adjustment.html

[FuzzyGrub]

Scopes can be such a personal thing.

Agree. 

On stockish prods, don't like heavy or bulky scopes.  Others don't mind it and prefer to have the higher magnifications.  If you plan to add a double tube, or make it a long tube (rifle), then that will handle them much better.   That tippyness, to some part, comes from the small thin forestock.  I like 32mm obj on prods, but as others have mentioned, some of them are fairly heavy.   My stockish prods are used very seldom, beyond 50yds, so mil-dots not a requirement (for me).  Also, none of mine still have the oem forestock. 

PS: I use a couple of the simmons 44 mags on synrods to keep the weight down.  I'm fairly happy with them, but they are a couple of ounces heavier that their spec.   

[DougGuy]

I've got the UTG 3-12x44 compact with the etched glass reticle.

+1 for this awesome nice UTG scope!  Had this scope on a MM tuned 25 caliber underlever springer, had it on my 25 caliber synrod and now on my 22 caliber prod. 

The feature I like and use the most on it is the side adjust parallax which will adjust down to 10 yards.  It is crystal clear with a large field of view, aside from the weight it brings a lot of quality for the money invested, I would buy another in a heartbeat when I need another scope.

On a prod with the shoulder stock, this compact scope is quite balanced, and you aren't reminded of it's weight because of the balance.



Model number SCP3-UGM312AOIEW $149 and free shipping from Pyramid Air.

You WILL need an adapter kit to go from Picatinny scope base to Weaver dovetail to use the rings that come with this fine scope:  UTG .22/Airgun to Picatinny/Weaver Low Pro Snap-in Adaptor 2PCs/Set MNT-DT2PW01

[RatRacer]

At 14oz & 8", I've been using the CQB Bugbuster. It's got a little longer eye relief than other Bugbusters. The only detractor about it is the wire reticle.
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/utg-3-9x32-ao-compact-cqb-bug-buster-rifle-scope-illuminated-mil-dot?a=4222

Then there's the slightly bigger, no frills Sun Optics Shorty Forty with etched reticle, but not illuminated:
http://sunopticsusa.com/shorty-forty-md-cs31-3940md/

[Lmgunner13]

UTG bugbuster. It weighs 13 ounces. 3-9 with adjustable objective and diopter.

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Thanks, guys!

I am researching my way through your suggestions, slowly but surely..

I need some of the scopes to focus close, I found several that go down to 5 yards that look okay, but I haven't ever used the brand before, I don't think..

Please keep the ideas coming, thanks!!

Chickie

[FuzzyGrub]

I need some of the scopes to focus close, I found several that go down to 5 yards that look okay, but I haven't ever used the brand before, I don't think..

@ 5 yards you use a club!   


10 yards is my minimum, and that is for the indoor range for tuning.  I have had scopes that say they will focus to that, and haven't.  Sometimes it is just an issue at the higher powers.  Good luck with your search and post back with a review of whatever you decided to choose. 

[Lmgunner13]

The bugbuster goes down to 3 yards. I was using the prod to kill red wasps in the lawn this past weekend at about 5 yards.

[FuzzyGrub]

I was using the prod to kill red wasps in the lawn this past weekend at about 5 yards.

5 yards wouldn't give me enough time to get up and run when I missed!     Sounds like fun, though.

   

[DougGuy]

I need some of the scopes to focus close, I found several that go down to 5 yards>
Chickie

I keep the side adjust all the way back on the SCP3-UGM312AOIEW that I posted a pic of, I popped a nutter in the head at about 9' and it was perfectly in focus to deliver a headache via airmail..  Don't know how much closer you'd want than this one goes!

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I've got the UTG 3-12x44 compact with the etched glass reticle.

+1 for this awesome nice UTG scope!  Had this scope on a MM tuned 25 caliber underlever springer, had it on my 25 caliber synrod and now on my 22 caliber prod. 

The feature I like and use the most on it is the side adjust parallax which will adjust down to 10 yards.  It is crystal clear with a large field of view, aside from the weight it brings a lot of quality for the money invested, I would buy another in a heartbeat when I need another scope.

On a prod with the shoulder stock, this compact scope is quite balanced, and you aren't reminded of it's weight because of the balance.



Model number SCP3-UGM312AOIEW $149 and free shipping from Pyramid Air.

You WILL need an adapter kit to go from Picatinny scope base to Weaver dovetail to use the rings that come with this fine scope:  UTG .22/Airgun to Picatinny/Weaver Low Pro Snap-in Adaptor 2PCs/Set MNT-DT2PW01

DougGuy,

I found one on Amazon for $101, so I ordered it and the adaptor set. Thank you!

:-) Chickie

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I've got the UTG 3-12x44 compact with the etched glass reticle. I like it, but it's a good 8 ounces heavier than your Airmax, so probably won't be something you're interested in.

Scopes can be such a personal thing. If you're looking to save weight, maybe a Vantage 4 x 32 AO would be worth a look. It comes with a Mil Dot reticle, although it's a little thicker than some. 

Anyway, best of luck with the search.

/Steve

Steve,

I found a bargain, and I am impressed with the features, so I figured I would give this one a try. If it is too heavy for the little Crosman guns, it will likely end up on something else before too long, ha!

:-) Chickie

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Burris Timberline 4.5-14x32. Excellent scope. Long eye relief, clear glass. Being only a 32mm objective, it is not as bright as something similar with 40, but since the glass is clearer than UTG and this level of Hawke, it ends up looking just as good.

I have one on my HW30s to keep weight down without losing magnification.

Now that you mention it, I may move it over to my P-Rod, since its shoulder stock is a bit long to let me get my eye as close as I need with the Cheapers 6X Bugbuster that I like so well. (other than its short eye relief and fat reticle) It would be PERFECT, and I shoot the P-Rod a lot more than the HW30s anyway.

Jeremy,

I like this scope, and I may end up trying one down the road as I upgrade to better glass after completing my builds. I prefer Hawke AMX, Half-Mildot, or Mildot reticles, so I am a little unsure of the ballistic plex reticle on the Burris.

Thanks for the suggestion.

:-) Chickie

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Burris Timberline 4.5-14x32



Twice the magnification, about 2 ounces lighter. But about $100 more. Maybe still too heavy or too much money?

Simmons 44Mag 6-21x44 Mil Dot Side Focus http://www.simmonsoptics.com/riflescopes/44_mag.aspx
$149, 11.8 ounces. So about 30% lighter and $30 cheaper than your Airmax.

http://www.opticsplanet.com/simmons-44mag-6-21x44-side-parallax-adjustment.html

39m,

I liked the Burris, it is pricier than the scopes I ordered, but certainly not too pricey once I am done tinkering with these particular builds.

I also like the Simmons, but it doesn't focus well at close range, or so I have been told. For a longer range application than these guns, I would think this would be a nice scope, for sure. Thanks for the suggestion, I will likely try one of these before too long, too!

:-) Chickie

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UTG bugbuster. It weighs 13 ounces. 3-9 with adjustable objective and diopter.

Phil,

I am a bit worried about the reticle and dot thickness, but I ordered on anyway, lol. For largish pests at close range the reticle should be fine, especially in low light. Thanks for the input!

:-) Chickie

[Xraycer]

UTG bugbuster. It weighs 13 ounces. 3-9 with adjustable objective and diopter.

Phil,

I am a bit worried about the reticle and dot thickness, but I ordered on anyway, lol. For largish pests at close range the reticle should be fine, especially in low light. Thanks for the input!

:-) Chickie

I should be getting mine tomorrow

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I need some of the scopes to focus close, I found several that go down to 5 yards that look okay, but I haven't ever used the brand before, I don't think..

@ 5 yards you use a club!   


10 yards is my minimum, and that is for the indoor range for tuning.  I have had scopes that say they will focus to that, and haven't.  Sometimes it is just an issue at the higher powers.  Good luck with your search and post back with a review of whatever you decided to choose.

Thanks, I will review them as time permits, lol.

I bought 3 UTG scopes and the Millet SP-1 red-dot, and a few other items, lol, so no telling when I have all my purchases sorted out and set-up properly.

I have set myself up with a task that will keep me occupied the rest of the year, and goodness only knows how much time I will spend in the shop next winter machining parts, oh my! It's been too long since I've watched metal chips fly, though, so it will be fun when the time comes!

:-) Chickie