NOE .25 cal Pellet Moulds

[rsterne]

I think the big advantage to Diabolo is that they work well in choked barrels, or at least better than many slugs do.... The will never have the BC possible with a bullet, however.... It's just one more alternative for guys to try, and something they can make instead of buying ammo.... which is what some want....

The more designs we have available the better, and I'm delighted that you are having great success producing ammo for those who want to "reach out" further.... Swaging, or mass producing cast ammo with a casting machine.... is well beyond the ability of the average shooter.... so having the ability to buy ammo that is ready-to-go is wonderful, IMO....

Bob

[Norm_m]

Has anyone gotten one of these pellet molds?
If so I would like to purchase some pellets to see how accurate they are in my 25 cal PRod with a 14" MRod barrel.

If they are good I am thinking of getting into bullet casting but do not want to invest in all that equipment before knowing if the pellets will work for me

[oldpro]

Has anyone gotten one of these pellet molds?
If so I would like to purchase some pellets to see how accurate they are in my 25 cal PRod with a 14" MRod barrel.

If they are good I am thinking of getting into bullet casting but do not want to invest in all that equipment before knowing if the pellets will work for me

I have the mold and Im waiting on my handles to arrive, they should be here today so Ill get some groups on paper very soon and report back.

[Wayne52]

My mold got here today, I checked the handles that I have but they're press fit and I don't want to destroy the molds just for the handle so I ordered a pair of Lee handles on ebay today.

Travis I'll be looking forward to your results, should be interesting, especially since I can't start molding til my handles get here, ebay stuff usually comes fast.

[Lmgunner13]

The suspense is killing me....can't wait to hear y'alls results.

Phil

[oneshot61]

Rick shot the 33.2 today and it was a shotgun blast pattern. The 35.2 did well at 30 yards.. looked like 10 shots under a dime. He is testing the 37.2 tomorrow if the weather cooperates and will send pictures to post. I think the twist is 17.5 in the puncher pro... I think.

[rsterne]

The reason for the three base pins was so that guys could play with the CG to find the optimum for their gun.... I'm not surprised that there is a difference in the groups.... It will be interesting when we get more data to see if one weight consistently has better accuracy, or if it varies from gun to gun....

Bob

[Wayne52]

My mold came with the lightest pins installed which is cool because that was the one I was going to start out with

[nielsenammo]

The multiple pins is a good idea to see if you can find the right balance.  I tried several pins with my 45 cal and could never find an acceptable combo, they were just OK.  I tried fatter/thinner pins, longer/shorter pins, etc to change the balance.  Eventually I just said scr*w it because I spent too much time and money for one product.

I may reconsider if a good solution is found so I am in real hopes for this to work.

[oneshot61]

The multiple pins is a good idea to see if you can find the right balance.  I tried several pins with my 45 cal and could never find an acceptable combo, they were just OK.  I tried fatter/thinner pins, longer/shorter pins, etc to change the balance.  Eventually I just said scr*w it because I spent too much time and money for one product.

I may reconsider if a good solution is found so I am in real hopes for this to work.

I think the balance statement is true. Rick  tried all three pallets today at 40 yards they all opened up like a shotgun. Maybe someone will have better luck

[nielsenammo]

I can't figure it out.  It may be the head shape, mine were shaped similar to these.  Perhaps a more round shape on the head?

I have some of Rick's cast slugs and they are good quality so I am confident it is not the casting quality.  Like I said I gave up on mine but I am always on the look for someone who has an answer, I wish I did.

My thoughts are it is either the head shape or the angle relationship between the head and body of skirt. 

[oldpro]

 I cast up a bunch of the 33s today and had pretty good results as long as I weighed every pellet before shooting. Some looked great but weighed light and shot all over the place so I used really hot pot temp and kept mold on hot plate after this I had good results and pretty good accuracy. Ill Do some more testing tomorrow time permitting but just make sure you weigh them before shooting its super critical like I said they can look fine but be off due to the skirt not forming fully. 

[oneshot61]

Thanks Travis .. I passed your post along to Rick. Hopefully it will make a difference for him.

[Wayne52]

Once a person has some experience molding they'll realize that everything has to be hot for good results.  I've always had good results using a ladle myself, I just put the ladle on top of the molten lead (once it's up to temp) between pours.  I use a Lee open pot I bought years ago but it still works really good. I have a 6x6x1/2 piece of pine I initially drop the bullets on from the mold for initial cooling (pure lead is very soft) and it helps a lot for less deformation of the bullets(pellets in this case).    Usually I'll do several pours just getting the mold up to temp before they start molding nicely and remelt the first several pours.  I'll try doing a video pouring with my ladle once I get the show on the road

[oldpro]

Once a person has some experience molding they'll realize that everything has to be hot for good results.  I've always had good results using a ladle myself, I just put the ladle on top of the molten lead (once it's up to temp) between pours.  I use a Lee open pot I bought years ago but it still works really good. I have a 6x6x1/2 piece of pine I initially drop the bullets on from the mold for initial cooling (pure lead is very soft) and it helps a lot for less deformation of the bullets(pellets in this case).    Usually I'll do several pours just getting the mold up to temp before they start molding nicely and remelt the first several pours.  I'll try doing a video pouring with my ladle once I get the show on the road

I used a ladle also that was also kept on the hot plate. Its really important especially with poring a good cast with the thin skirt pellets to have everything really hot. Tomorrow ill shoot some groups onpaper hopefully and post pics. 

[rick47]

Hey guy's ,,, I made a bunch of these in all three weight's ,, and they were between .33.2 to 33.4 it was like this for all three weights ,, so I started @ 30 yards , and,they were all over the place ,  at first I though it might be my gun ((kral puncher pro)) but it wasn't  the jsb pellets stacked up in one ragged hole . I think they need to redesign the head of the pellet , more like the jsb,, I took a handful of the jsb king heavy and filed the head  until  I got a small flat measuring .150 and it had no affect on accuracy at all , I had two 9mm pellet molds made it that way, 84 grain and 97 grain, and both are really accurate .. 

[oldpro]

Hey guy's ,,, I made a bunch of these in all three weight's ,, and they were between .33.2 to 33.4 it was like this for all three weights ,, so I started @ 30 yards , and,they were all over the place ,  at first I though it might be my gun ((kral puncher pro)) but it wasn't  the jsb pellets stacked up in one ragged hole . I think they need to redesign the head of the pellet , more like the jsb,, I took a handful of the jsb king heavy and filed the head  until  I got a small flat measuring .150 and it had no affect on accuracy at all , I had two 9mm pellet molds made it that way, 84 grain and 97 grain, and both are really accurate ..

Try them in a gun with a choked barrel.

[Rich_B]

Hey Travis, you got an Airforce gun that you can try them in? That's the only 25 I have and if they showed promise, I might order one. Sounds like a touch of tin might help filling out a little better. Just a touch won't make them so hard that they won't shoot.

[Wayne52]

I tried the light ones today, not good all over the place, I'll just melt them all down and try the next ones with the heavier (middle pin). Maybe tomorrow.  I'm using the Mrod with the green mountain barrel and it's choked

I weighed the 16 shots that I did the shooting with, I'm not even going to bother putting them over the chrony

32.74   32.58
33.08   32.36
32.72   32.46
33        32.66
32.78   32.52
32.32   32.94
33.34   32.80
32.80   32.58

[Mark Davis]

Those little pellets with skirts are going to be tricky to cast.
Heating the blocks, and pins, is a given. With only 135 grains of molten lead going into the mold,  I would use a 20 lb bottom pour pot, run the pot HOT, and leave a very generous sprue to keep the mold temp up.