Hatsan AT44S-10 Equal To MRod ?

[USAFANG6799]

Is the Hatsan AT44S-10 Quiet Energy PCP(22 cal) Air Rifle(black) equivalent/same league as the Benjamin Marauder 22 cal?

Field Supply has them advertised for $299 refurb. That's quite a tempting price!

[Darinjfry]

I have one and am really happy with it. Airgun depot did a side by side comparison of each and the hatsan actually won out. Mine I purchased as a refurb and have not had issue with it

[colorider]

Own the Hatsan and have shot the mrod.  Out of the box the Hatsan wins by a long shot. Hatsan stock trigger is superior.  Accuracy was also much better.  Lots of mods available for the mrod, but that costs extra money and time.     The sale price of the Hatsan right now is fantastic. 

[Valkyrie0002]

Those $299 rifles are not refurbs.

[Old Corps]

I own the MRod in .25 and the AT44S in .22. My answer is YES they are very comparable. Both are very accurate, have excellent triggers and although on the heavy side are easy to shoot well with. IMO the brand NEW AT44S for 300 bucks is an absolute steal! You don't see refurbs listed at that price. Go for it!

Ed

[Motorhead]

Great rifles especially at that price .... Wish to tinker, or years from now ( Even now  ) need any major service parts your going to be disappointed.
Hatsan makes a good gun and many are happy with them .... Go for it !

As too the trigger ... Call BS on the claims the hatsans the better unit. ( May come adjusted better )
but it ends there !! ... The M-rod trigger is very good clone of the British Theoben & RAW trigger groups that are World class air guns.

[USAFANG6799]

I have one and am really happy with it. Airgun depot did a side by side comparison of each and the hatsan actually won out. Mine I purchased as a refurb and have not had issue with it

Own the Hatsan and have shot the mrod.  Out of the box the Hatsan wins by a long shot. Hatsan stock trigger is superior.  Accuracy was also much better.  Lots of mods available for the mrod, but that costs extra money and time.     The sale price of the Hatsan right now is fantastic. 

Those $299 rifles are not refurbs.

Hey are all you guys working on commission from HATSAN ? All these good replies are not helping me to not spend money I don't have 
The only thing that's saving me this time around is that I just spent close to $500 on tires for my Harley. Got to get my ride fix since the weather is finally changing here in Southern Maine.

[EMrider]

I own both, and out of the box the Hatsan was the better performing gun.  At the time I purchased, the Hatsan was quite a bit more expensive than the Mrod.  The 300 price is a great value.

With some easy mods, in particular the MMHF barrel, I've since come to much prefer the Mrod.  It is easier to service/mod and aftermarket support is far better. 

R

[Wayne52]

That's one heck of a deal for sure.

[Ribbonstone]

I like them that much...have shot the M-Rod, with no complaints but also no real "wow".... own 3 Hatsans out of preference.

[GoneShootn]

Just based upon my own experience, I would say no, not as good as the .25 cal MRod. I have had 7 AT44s in my hands - 1 QE .22 short from Airgun Depot (sent back for refund), 3 from Field Supply, new not refurb, and 2 of those had to be replaced by Hatsan, one of them replaced twice. The third, an AT44 Tactical in .22, I just received. None of those would shoot right out of the box. In fact, this .22 Tactical is all over the page, so I think it has a clipping issue. The only reason that I took a dip again was that BWalton was able to make a shooter out of the AT44 .25 Long that had serious POI shift issues, and I really wanted a .22.

So, if you know your way around airguns and don't mind a lot of work on these, then go for it, although in PCPs I would personally be scared to death of "refurbs". I think that the AT44 is a well-engineered rifle and like the platform a lot, but much mischief happens to that great design in the manufacturing and assembly processes, IMO.

Again, just based upon my personal experience, which is all that I have to go on. Not trying to be a downer, and I hope that yours shoots lights out right out of the box. I'm told that is the experience of many others.

So, the best of luck to you, and let us know how you come out.

[Old Corps]

These are not refurbs but I did recently purchase a refurb BullBoss directly from Hatsan in .25 that is/was extremely accurate out of the box. Speaking of the box it looked like it went through h*ll but the rifle looked perfect and performs the same as it looks. I haven't even felt the need to adjust the trigger. Couldn't be happier. This rifle is an AT44 Long in different clothes of course. Just lucky I guess.

Ed

[USAFANG6799]

Ed,

Congratulation with your BullBoss from Hatsan. Sounds like ya got yourself a good one despite the rough ride it had.
I'm in awe and envy your list of guns to decide as to which one to shoot to fit your mood of the day 
Enjoy and hope all is well.

Matt

[LDP]

Its not luck its just the nature of the beast. Hatsan can make accurate out of the box airguns but due to lacking QC you run the chance of having some real duds. I bought 3 hatsans and none of them competed with my two mrods out of the box. I have the tools to clean them up so I was able to get all 3 to shoot accurately. The hatsans I had were not as smooth as my mrods either. The side lever leaves a little to be desired. So my opinion is if you dont mind working on them or sending them off to a tuner then you will be happy. If you dont want the hassle or extra cost of tuner services then I would go with the Mrod. If the Hatsan needs to be sent to a tuner then the price isnt as attractive and youre out of a brand new pcp you paid for until the tuner gets done with it. Just my thoughts on the topic

[GoneShootn]

Its not luck its just the nature of the beast. Hatsan can make accurate out of the box airguns but due to lacking QC you run the chance of having some real duds. I bought 3 hatsans and none of them competed with my two mrods out of the box. I have the tools to clean them up so I was able to get all 3 to shoot accurately. The hatsans I had were not as smooth as my mrods either. The side lever leaves a little to be desired. So my opinion is if you dont mind working on them or sending them off to a tuner then you will be happy. If you dont want the hassle or extra cost of tuner services then I would go with the Mrod. If the Hatsan needs to be sent to a tuner then the price isnt as attractive and youre out of a brand new pcp you paid for until the tuner gets done with it. Just my thoughts on the topic

What fixes do you think were most effective at improving accuracy?

[USAFANG6799]

Its not luck its just the nature of the beast. Hatsan can make accurate out of the box airguns but due to lacking QC you run the chance of having some real duds. I bought 3 hatsans and none of them competed with my two mrods out of the box. I have the tools to clean them up so I was able to get all 3 to shoot accurately. The hatsans I had were not as smooth as my mrods either. The side lever leaves a little to be desired. So my opinion is if you dont mind working on them or sending them off to a tuner then you will be happy. If you dont want the hassle or extra cost of tuner services then I would go with the Mrod. If the Hatsan needs to be sent to a tuner then the price isnt as attractive and youre out of a brand new pcp you paid for until the tuner gets done with it. Just my thoughts on the topic

Fortunately the three break barrels I bought from Hatsan have not been a disappointment. But neither has my MRod in 22 caliber which I bought about a year ago when everyone said not to buy the MRod with 22 caliber. So I call it luck or nature of the beast in my case.
If I had the means I'd go for a Hatsan 44 to press my luck or tempt the beast 

Hope all is well.

PS To break the spell that ails you how about your order a Hatsan 44 ship it to me 

[LDP]

Its not luck its just the nature of the beast. Hatsan can make accurate out of the box airguns but due to lacking QC you run the chance of having some real duds. I bought 3 hatsans and none of them competed with my two mrods out of the box. I have the tools to clean them up so I was able to get all 3 to shoot accurately. The hatsans I had were not as smooth as my mrods either. The side lever leaves a little to be desired. So my opinion is if you dont mind working on them or sending them off to a tuner then you will be happy. If you dont want the hassle or extra cost of tuner services then I would go with the Mrod. If the Hatsan needs to be sent to a tuner then the price isnt as attractive and youre out of a brand new pcp you paid for until the tuner gets done with it. Just my thoughts on the topic

What fixes do you think were most effective at improving accuracy?

I would have to say getting rid of the horrible burs in the lead and transfer port hole in the barrel. I would say that the re crown probably made a pretty big difference in them as well. One of the three still didnt shoot as good as I wanted after de burring it but straightened out the rest of the way with the re crown. I polished them up and then re tested to see what diff it made. When the one needed the re crown to fully fix I went ahead and crowned the other two just in case it would make them even better.

[GoneShootn]

I would have to say getting rid of the horrible burs in the lead and transfer port hole in the barrel. I would say that the re crown probably made a pretty big difference in them as well. One of the three still didnt shoot as good as I wanted after de burring it but straightened out the rest of the way with the re crown. I polished them up and then re tested to see what diff it made. When the one needed the re crown to fully fix I went ahead and crowned the other two just in case it would make them even better.

Barrel TP is easy enough, but what method did you use to address the problems in the leades? I'm asking, because I am about to address accuracy issues on a .177 and a .22.

[LDP]

I used the rubber polishing bits that you use in dremel tools. I also used those bits to polish up my magazines. They work very fast so make sure you use the finest available and dont let it sit in one spot.

[Privateer]

I made a trade at the GTA fun shoot and got a Gen II .25 M-Rod that had maybe 10 pellets through it?
It was accurate no doubt!
But when someone offered an AT44 QE long .25 in an even up trade?
That thing was gone!