US M853 (Daisy Avanti Legend 853)



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US M853 (Daisy Avanti Legend 853)
« on: April 21, 2017, 04:45:51 AM »
I received my US M853 Daisy Avanti Legend from CMP this week. I ordered this rifle because, really, it is something of a legend. It could be argued that this is the gun that kicked off the still growing sport of airgunning in the US. The NRA adopted it as the rifle of choice for its youth training camps, soon followed by the US government for training JROTC cadets in firearms fundamentals. When I was in JROTC, we had Remington M514 .22's and had to take a bus ride to a range to shoot. On "range day" we had about 20 minutes to actually shoot. With the advent of the M853, they could spend most their "range day" hour actually shooting.


A modern JROTC rifle competition.

So, now that Daisy has discontinued this fine rifle, I felt the need to get one just for its sheer historical value. I had never really been interested in this rifle for just its performance value. I already had a good, reasonably accurate .177. It was even a Daisy... a Model 131. And really, .22 is my caliber of choice. At a retail price ranging from $250 up to $400, I just couldn't justify it to myself. But still, it is a piece of history, and I knew I could get one from the Civilian Marksmanship Program (http://thecmp.org/wp-content/uploads/DaisyUsedRifles.pdf?ver=20170110) at a really good price. I decided since they were discontinued, CMP might start running out of them soon since they are pretty much the only game in town when it comes to getting an 853 now. That decided me. I filled out the form, gave Uncle $120, and I placed my order.

I waited 5 days, and I must say, I really was excited when it arrived. It came with the rear sight dismounted. I installed the butt extensions, mounted the sight, and set up a target to zero it. I was optimistic, so I started at 10 yards. Imagine my delight when the very first shot actually killed the bull! I was in love. I spent the rest of the evening destroying soda cans. The next morning I went out to do a little accuracy testing from a rested position at 10 yards. My first two groups, put five rounds, in holes that if I didn't know better, I would swear had been made by two pellets. If I hadn't done this twice, I might have been persuaded that I had missed the whole target board with three rounds.

I don't suppose I should be too surprised since it does have a Lothar Walther barrel. The sights are Daisy target sights for the rear, and a globe front sight with interchangeable inserts (an assortment of inserts included). The rear sight is not a Redfield, and is mostly plastic and potmetal, but it is quite serviceable. Trigger is a little heavy (rated at 6 pounds), and after the reviews I had read, I wasn't expecting greatness, but I was pleasantly surprised. No doubt about it, it is heavy, and a trigger job is definitely in order, but the creep was not truly objectionable, and letoff was crisp. It weighs in at a hair over 5 pounds. This is a fun gun to shoot, and once I do the trigger job, it may even be a competitor. It is rated at 510fps with match grade pellets. I ran it over the chrony with Crosman Premier Points, 7.4gr and got a high of 490, a low of 465, with an average of 479, and a standard deviation of 7 in a 10 shot string. Frankly, this seems a little low and a little wide, but I'll reserve judgement till I can run some match pellets through it.

My only real disappointment with this rifle was the stock. I had read that CMP armory refurb includes belt sanding and oiling the stock. Mine arrived with caked on crud still in place, and someone had scratched their initials into the stock. It had been spot sanded, even the initials. With just a little more effort, they might have at least gotten the initials off of it. All in all though, I am not displeased. I confess that since I got it, I have barely been able to put this rifle down. It really is a pleasure to shoot!


*MY* US M853!

« Last Edit: April 21, 2017, 04:52:55 AM by DF_Hammack »
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Rifles:
Daisy 120 .177   Daisy/CMP M853 .177
B4 Underlever .177   Retay 135X  .177 
Crosman 101 .22   Beeman Ram XT .22 
Mrodair Varmint .22  Hatsan Torpedo 105X  .22
Hatsan Striker Vortex .25

Pistols:
Beeman P17 .177     Mrodair CP-1M .22
Crosman 2250 w/ CrookedBarn Breech .177
Umarex TDP 45  (CO2)BB   SwissArms 941 (CO2)BB

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Re: US M853 (Daisy Avanti Legend 853)
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2017, 12:16:27 PM »
Good review!  CMP 853 is one of the best deals going in the AG community.  I have 4 and I've given away 2 more as gifts.  I kind of like the beat up old stocks because I enjoy refinishing them. 
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Re: US M853 (Daisy Avanti Legend 853)
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2017, 01:53:36 PM »
Good review!  CMP 853 is one of the best deals going in the AG community.  I have 4 and I've given away 2 more as gifts.  I kind of like the beat up old stocks because I enjoy refinishing them.

I couldn't agree more. This ranks with rifles where the P17 is with pistols. I think my brother is getting sick of hearing how much I love this rifle ;) As I shoot it, I just can't stop  marveling at it. I can easily understand why you have four. Certainly, at least one more is in the cards for me. I am going to have to get one with a Monte Carlo stock. I am only sad this era is coming to a close. I suppose there will a newer, suitable replacement, but newer is not always better. I'll wait and see.
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Danger is real...
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Rifles:
Daisy 120 .177   Daisy/CMP M853 .177
B4 Underlever .177   Retay 135X  .177 
Crosman 101 .22   Beeman Ram XT .22 
Mrodair Varmint .22  Hatsan Torpedo 105X  .22
Hatsan Striker Vortex .25

Pistols:
Beeman P17 .177     Mrodair CP-1M .22
Crosman 2250 w/ CrookedBarn Breech .177
Umarex TDP 45  (CO2)BB   SwissArms 941 (CO2)BB

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Re: US M853 (Daisy Avanti Legend 853)
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2017, 06:54:52 PM »
It'll never be the same. The new one will probably be cheap plastic and get recycled instead of resealed.
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Re: US M853 (Daisy Avanti Legend 853)
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2017, 03:30:07 PM »
Well, I did it! Actually, I can't say that. My brother, TheRRDon, did it, and I helped, so I really can't take the credit. We turned a great rifle into an AWESOME rifle, and I don't use that term often or lightly. We did the PilkGuns mod on the trigger (http://www.pilkguns.com/daisy853tm.shtml). He got interested because he got a good deal on a Daisy 953. I hope he reviews it with the service he did on it along with the trigger, but anyway. The trigger mod looks challenging, but really it isn't. A Dremel tool helps, but the only power tool required is an electric drill. One item that throws a lot of people is the need to tap the hole for the adjuster screw. You don't, really, you don't. The trigger guard is plastic. The set screw will be self tapping. Just be careful you don't start it off angle. I know, we did it to two different guns. The whole mod takes less than half an hour, not including disassembly and reassembly.

When done, the trigger is single stage and very adjustable. I don't have a trigger scale, but on a guess, I would say mine is set around two pounds, and has heavenly break to it. The gun is an absolute dream to shoot now.

BTW, even if you don't do the mod on your CMP M853, I strongly recommend you take it down and clean and lube the entire trigger assembly. The grease in mine was dried up, and pretty useless. It was evident the trigger had never been serviced. Pay particular attention to the hammer. Mine had been shot so much, a groove was worn in the hammer where it engaged the sear, explaining the creep and unpredictability I found in my trigger.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2017, 03:51:09 PM by DF_Hammack »
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Danger is real...
Fear *is* real...
Courage is a *choice*

Rifles:
Daisy 120 .177   Daisy/CMP M853 .177
B4 Underlever .177   Retay 135X  .177 
Crosman 101 .22   Beeman Ram XT .22 
Mrodair Varmint .22  Hatsan Torpedo 105X  .22
Hatsan Striker Vortex .25

Pistols:
Beeman P17 .177     Mrodair CP-1M .22
Crosman 2250 w/ CrookedBarn Breech .177
Umarex TDP 45  (CO2)BB   SwissArms 941 (CO2)BB

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Re: US M853 (Daisy Avanti Legend 853)
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2017, 03:39:15 PM »
I just got mine yesterday! It's a little beat up, but accurate. Im satisfied. I'll prolly order a couple more. Great indoor plinker for the short days of winter.
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Crosman SNR .357 .177
Benjamin Trail NP Pistol .177
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Re: US M853 (Daisy Avanti Legend 853)
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2017, 06:28:05 PM »
What happens if you pump it more than once???
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Re: US M853 (Daisy Avanti Legend 853)
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2017, 09:02:41 PM »
I haven't noticed anything, but that's a good question
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Daisy 853 .177 cal.
HW77k Special Edition .22 cal.
Diana 48 B/ Nikon 4-12x40 P 308  BDC 800 - The New Darling
Air Arms TX200 MK III .22 cal Walnut Stock/ Nikon 4-12x40 BDC
Crosman Storm XT .177
Crosman P1377 .177
Crosman SNR .357 .177
Benjamin Trail NP Pistol .177
Ruger Impact .22 - MOST HATED
Gamo BC Bull Whisper .177/ Nikon 3-9x40 BDC. - SENT DOWN THE RIVER
Smith & Wesson M&P 45 - .177
Benjamin Titan GP .22
Remington Express Synthetic .22
Crosman F4 .177

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Re: US M853 (Daisy Avanti Legend 853)
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2017, 09:43:04 PM »
What happens if you pump it more than once???

This is a single pump. It does not have a check valve. If you pump more than once, it releases the air stored in the compression tube, and refills.
  • Lugoff, SC
Danger is real...
Fear *is* real...
Courage is a *choice*

Rifles:
Daisy 120 .177   Daisy/CMP M853 .177
B4 Underlever .177   Retay 135X  .177 
Crosman 101 .22   Beeman Ram XT .22 
Mrodair Varmint .22  Hatsan Torpedo 105X  .22
Hatsan Striker Vortex .25

Pistols:
Beeman P17 .177     Mrodair CP-1M .22
Crosman 2250 w/ CrookedBarn Breech .177
Umarex TDP 45  (CO2)BB   SwissArms 941 (CO2)BB

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