CP1-M pistol first impressions

[cobalt327]

Would be nice if GAmo picked up on your fine idea...

[WesBob]

Great idea! I'm gonna have to get me one of those and do that mod as well! That's sure amazing shooting by Ribbonstone, real old time gunslinger, you are lol! I better keep practicing, I can't do near that well at 5m! Shows what these guns are capable of!

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Hi Kevin, well I should have gotten is this one:

Thanks for the tip, I just ordered one, my CP-1M arrives tomorrow...

I'm working my way through your most excellent thread here, bit by bit, trying to get ready for my new baby!

Thanks for posting so much great info!!

:-) chickie

[nervoustrigger]

Stan, last night I finally got around to applying the trigger mods.  I went out to the shop to see if I had something to use as a bushing around the lower pin of the the trigger group.  Pretty quickly I noticed a pop rivet that was a good candidate.  I just knocked out the mandrel to salvage the body, then cut away the flange and drilled out the ID to 2.5mm.

Then I took the spring from a butane lighter and cut it to the same length as the original spring.

After putting the parts back in, I had a hair trigger.  It was easy to see that lowering the set screw in the trigger blade would cure it...but getting that blasted thing to turn was easier said than done.  It was apparently installed with a permanent threadlocker so I reached for my mini torch to heat it up...but I couldn't get it to stay lit.  No amount of adjusting the fuel flow helped so I went and grabbed a candle and held the blue part of the flame to it for 30sec and it finally let go.

Now with the screw adjusted, I was ready to try it out.

And wow, what a difference.  Up until now, the trigger pull was very smooth and that's why I couldn't find the inspiration to mess with it.  But with the mod done, it makes the trigger so much more predictable and there is a clear improvement in accuracy as a result.

This was my very first attempt at 25 yards after the work was done.





Thanks for heads up!

[nervoustrigger]

Thanks for the tip, I just ordered one, my CP-1M arrives tomorrow...

Very nice, let us know how you like it!

[WesBob]

Great shooting! Just did Stan's mod as well, makes the trigger perfect for me, loving it!

[WhatUPSbox?]

Great shooting!

I still have to touch up the leade on the barrel on mine to smooth out the pellet feed a bit more, but very happy with the pistol.

Good thing these cheap CO₂ powerlet deals keep showing up on bargaingate

[WesBob]

That's great accuracy at 25 yards, I'm pretty sure rested I couldn't do nearly as well, not that it would be the guns fault! Still, I'd like to see how well mine is shooting, might need to figure out how to rig up a vise to give me a more stable shot. At short range it seems to like the crosman 14.3gr hps fine

[shultz]

Thanks for all the tips and info in this thread!

My cp1m is shooting so well after a little simple work I ordered a spare

I'm also going to try this.
https://www.btowstore.com/epages/BT3197.sf/secbbd4ee9b53/?ObjectPath=/Shops/BT3197/Categories/CP1M__TROPHY

Since I'll be mostly bench rest target shooting,tethering to a 68ci, 4500psi paintball tank, should allow me to shoot for a month without needing to fill The regulator output will be 850 psi, think of it as one HUGE co2 cart that's not effected by temp! I teather several guns this way, with a super thin and long micro bore hose, I don't even notice the guns tethered...

[Xraycer]

As an aside, I do like that style knockdown target.  But it always bothered me that the kill zone is a gut shot so a while back I fixed it by adding a paddle behind the brain.

Well, at least they using the tail as the kill zone

Nice mod, Jason!

[Wayne52]

Mine will be here Wednesday, signed into UPS My Choice and it has had the origin scan. Right now she's in Camden AR.  I wish they had the bolt on the right though.

[nervoustrigger]

Wayne, I hope you like it.  I just had mine out earlier this evening and it was shooting like a dream.  After clearing out the resetting target at 10 meters with 5 consecutive shots, I decided to try the spoon spinners hanging out at 25 yards.  Based on the sight-in the other day (target pic posted above), I tried holding the red dot just at the top of the spoons.   And wow, 5 shots in a row it sent the spoons spinning.  That really put a smile on my face.   In the past, I've managed to hit the two tablespoons pretty consistently but struggled with the 3 teaspoons.  I think the trigger mod was the last little piece of the puzzle.

[Wayne52]

Jason I'm sure it's going to be a lot of fun for plinking and honing my pistol skills. So far one thing that I really like about the SPA guns is the fact that they're made from steel and wood rather than being all plastic.  Another thing that I like about them is that they seem to be made really good right down to the fit and finish.   If it's anywhere near as accurate as the PP700S-A (within a reasonable distance that is) it will just make it that much more fun.  From what I've been seeing about these guns the fit and finish is really good too, in normal circumstances that's just not the norm for a Chinese made product but coming from SPA all I've been seeing are fantastic guns for the price.

Both the Varmint and MKII that I have are super accurate IMO and they're really pumping out great barrels with them too. 

[HueAirgun]

Hello guys, im low on money, should i the cp1 (.22) or a 2240?

[WesBob]

I'd go with the cp1 if you can afford it. Much better, steel breech instead of plastic, magazine. No comparison really. Plus you can get the new grips and stock for $25 if you decide you want to carbine it.

[HueAirgun]

I'd go with the cp1 if you can afford it. Much better, steel breech instead of plastic, magazine. No comparison really. Plus you can get the new grips and stock for $25 if you decide you want to carbine it.

Thank you. Wasnt quite expecting such a fast reply. Usualy i dont own CO2 guns

[nervoustrigger]

Yeah, I agree with Wes.  I have a 2240 and 2400KT and I prefer the CP1-M over them both.  Just a few points I'd like to add:

1. Price - Like many others, I think the Crosman steel breech is an essential piece for precision shooting.  By the time you add it, the difference in price disappears.

2.  Fit and finish - The SPA parts fit better and the finish of the metal is nicer.

3.  Trigger - The SPA trigger is vastly better which benefits both accuracy and the enjoyment of shooting.  That's true whether comparing new out of the box or after polishing and tweaking.

[rrdstarr]

I'd go with the cp1 if you can afford it. Much better, steel breech instead of plastic, magazine. No comparison really. Plus you can get the new grips and stock for $25 if you decide you want to carbine it.

CARBINE STOCK?
Where, and how much?

Thanks, Rick

[nervoustrigger]

Rick, it doesn't appear they are up the site yet.  Seems Mike said he got some in the recent shipment but was focusing on getting guns out first before turning his attention to the accessories. 

Not sure if it will end up on the CP1-M page
http://yhst-139878093962642.stores.yahoo.net/mrcpmushco2t.html

or if he'll be making a separate page for the CP2.

[WhatUPSbox?]

I too think the CP-1 is a higher quality pistol but here are some additional things to consider.

Price: Within the US, the Amazon/Walmart price wars at times have driven the 2240 under $40 ( $80 for CP-1) may make a difference for some

Size/Shape: The CP-1 is and feels larger. The grip is in places a cm larger in perimeter and the trigger is about a cm longer reach. May be an issue for smaller hands, though plenty of options for carving away. Also the CP-1 grip has a different angle, more of a target "broken wrist" hold. some like it some don't

Breech/sights: The CP-1 is better on both accounts , and you may be able to get the bolt on the side you prefer. Note: I and others had to disassemble and clean up the breech/leade on the CP-1 because of rough pellet feed (no feed issues on my 2240). For sights, if this is to be used as a pistol with open sights, I replaced the rear sight plate on the 2240 with one with a narrower slot, and for handheld shooting the performance of the sights on the two pistols is comparable.

Trigger: You will want to tune the trigger on either gun to get best accuracy. Both are relatively easy to do. Once you get them under two pounds, which is better will be a personal preference.

Efficiency and CO₂ usage: Stock, both pistols waste CO₂ unless you need max power. On the 2240 a power adjuster is an easy and relatively cheap add-on (the one in the picture is home made). For the CP-1 the valve buffer as described by Jason works great but takes a little more effort to implement. That said, the shorter barrel on the 2240 will not be as efficient as the CP-1. These adjustments also help with the noise.

Caliber: If you are paper target shooting, the .177 available in the CP-1 is usually easier/cheaper to get wadcutters.

So in the end, it all depends on what you want to use it for. The CP-1 is higher end, but the size and shape of the grip may be an issue for someone that want an easy pistol to shoot with either small hands or with their kids. With the tuning described, for handheld shooting, I've gotten both pistols to comparable accuracy.