eBay compressor

[redtrucker610]

I am pleased with my Yong Heng so far also. I am only using it to fill my marauder. It takes a little over 2 minutes to fill from 1800 to 3000 using the large filter. I noticed I'm going through more pellets now that I'm not hand pumping.

[bandg]

I ordered the transformer from Amazon.  Several "sizes" are available but I spent more and got the largest voltage model I could find to try to provide as much current as possible.  It is a "Simran AC-5000W Step Up & Down Transformer".  Simply plug it into a 110 wall outlet, plug the compressor into a 220 outlet on the front of the unit, and flip a switch to power it up.   I've been using it inside the house since it gets hot and humid in Arkansas in the summer and cool dry air probably helps the compressor.  It is working fine so far.

[Bizill]

Now that's got me thinking I may indeed want to go with 110volt.  I had intentions of using it out in the garage to minimize household disturbance with the sound of the compressor.  I wasn't too much worried about the hot air in the garage which can get up to 110 degrees, dry heat.  But I had always planned to use indoor air conditioned air so as to keep it as dry as possible.  The 220 volt is out in the garage. 

Scratch that, I'd just whip up a plug adapter for single phase 220 using my dryer receptacle.  I've made numerous pigtails and extension cords for my welder to go with the numerous configurations in 220 so I'd just do the same for the compressor and still use it indoors with only some nuisance to the remaining household members.

[bandg]

That was my initial intent and probably the best way to go if you have good access to your dryer 220 line.  Mine would be very inconvenient to reach as there is no space to the sides of my washer/dryer and the 220 line is low behind it.  I would have to move it every time I used the compressor.  I might eventually run the 220 line higher on the wall if I have trouble with this transformer but it allows me to relatively easily move the whole setup from room to room or to the shop or offsite where there is no 220 available.

[Buldawg76]

Bandg
Does the supplied cord on the compressor fit one of the two style 220v outlets on the step up transformer or did you have to change the cord on the compressor.

Bizill
With the made up 220v extension you show require that you must unplug dryer from the wall to plug the extension into the wall outlet or is it a piggyback setup where both the dryer and compressor stay plugged in all the time. My dryer plug is not easily accessible so it would have to be a piggy back setup if that's is even possible. I am not real experienced with household electrical but was a master auto/diesel mechanic for 45 years.

Mike 

[bandg]

The 220 receptacle on the front of the transformer is a universal type designed to accept most plug designs.  The Tuxing compressor 220 plug (which is identical to our US 3 prong 110 grounded and apparently this is a common arrangement for chinese devices) plugs right in.  No modifications needed, it was plug and play.  The transformer could also be used to power other type 220 devices from 110 if that were needed for some reason.  Supposedly the transformer will also work for 220 input voltage (selector switch on the back for 110 or 220 input voltage) to 110 output but the plug for the transformer is standard US 3 wire 110 type so an adapter would have to be made.  Now that I think about it there was another part in the transformer box that I didn't pay much attention to once I verified that everything would plug in normally.  It may have been an adapter for  US 220 to the 3 wire plug but I don't know right now where I put that plug. 

[rusty-c]

Now that's got me thinking I may indeed want to go with 110volt.  I had intentions of using it out in the garage to minimize household disturbance with the sound of the compressor.  I wasn't too much worried about the hot air in the garage which can get up to 110 degrees, dry heat.  But I had always planned to use indoor air conditioned air so as to keep it as dry as possible.  The 220 volt is out in the garage. 

Scratch that, I'd just whip up a plug adapter for single phase 220 using my dryer receptacle.  I've made numerous pigtails and extension cords for my welder to go with the numerous configurations in 220 so I'd just do the same for the compressor and still use it indoors with only some nuisance to the remaining household members.

Any possibility that you might remove those cover plates to see exactly how you wired everything up. I'm not near savvy enough with electricity and want to make certain that I don't end of with two hot poles rather than a single, as I understand that I need single pole 220 for my tuxing that has been waiting patiently.  It looks like really fine work and would be much less of a PITA than finding space in my box for another outlet.   Thanks for posting!

[bandg]

I read another discussion about single vs double pole 220 wiring.  The last thing I took away from it is that it shouldn't matter for function of these compressors.  But if it is the case that you need "single pole 220" wiring, how would you know which of the 2 available "poles" of the receptacle to wire that current to.  Another person who made such a 220 supply to 110 receptacle box function and is using it for another Tuxing told me to wire one pole of the 220 supply line to one pole of the 110 receptacle and the other pole of the 220 supply to the other pole of the 110 receptacle and to be sure to clearly label it as 220 since someone not familiar with the setup could burn out a 110 device plugged in there.  I'm certainly not an electrician but can mechanically modify stuff adequately so any definitive advice would be appreciated in case I ever wire this directly at some location.

[Buldawg76]

I read another discussion about single vs double pole 220 wiring.  The last thing I took away from it is that it shouldn't matter for function of these compressors.  But if it is the case that you need "single pole 220" wiring, how would you know which of the 2 available "poles" of the receptacle to wire that current to.  Another person who made such a 220 supply to 110 receptacle box function and is using it for another Tuxing told me to wire one pole of the 220 supply line to one pole of the 110 receptacle and the other pole of the 220 supply to the other pole of the 110 receptacle and to be sure to clearly label it as 220 since someone not familiar with the setup could burn out a 110 device plugged in there.  I'm certainly not an electrician but can mechanically modify stuff adequately so any definitive advice would be appreciated in case I ever wire this directly at some location.

+1 on any info that can be provided.

Mike

[avator]

LOL Mike.... you know, I'm just as excited to see what that $60 is going to get you as you are...

[Buldawg76]

LOL Mike.... you know, I'm just as excited to see what that $60 is going to get you as you are...

Hey bill
You and me both. I was getting all psyched up expecting it to be here by the 6th of June, went back and check the eBay page for the shipping estimate time frame and I misread it thinking it was the 1st to 6th of June but see it states the 1st of June to the 6th of July so burst my bubble for now. Kind of wish it was a narrower window of delivery time so I wont be checking the porch for the next month every hour or so.     

I am not good at waiting with anticipation of delivery. 

Mike

[avator]

If it's passed thru US Customs it won't be long.

[Bizill]

Let's all be very careful when we talk about 220 volt.  We're talkin' Single Phase, Two poles.  I won't show the inside of my adapters as they are for my welder to connect from the various 220 outlets and the pigtails convert it to use my 100' 8 gauge extension cord with a NEMA 6-50 plug on one end and receptacle on the other.  The reason I posted the pics is because I'm proud of my pigtails.  <--- insert joke here.

If I get the 220 Yong Heng I'd have to make a similar pigtail to use with their supplied cord.  It's looking like I'd have to take their 110 volt usa plug and convert it to be used as 220 volt which is very dangerous because if anyone tries to mess with my compressor and sees the 110 plug, things won't be fun.  I won't know for sure what needs to be done until I have the money to order one.  But I've got a good idea what it will entail.

[OleTomCat]

In the US to get single phase 240vac, you will have two hot legs of 120vac and no neutral leg, unless you have a special transformer that boosts the single leg up to 220vac, not common but it can be done.  I think that is what someone else bought back up the thread further, it isn't required but it does make it simpler to do it that way. 

I have bee an electrician for over 25 years, the stuff hurts don't play around with it if you don't know what you are doing....

Al

Now that's got me thinking I may indeed want to go with 110volt.  I had intentions of using it out in the garage to minimize household disturbance with the sound of the compressor.  I wasn't too much worried about the hot air in the garage which can get up to 110 degrees, dry heat.  But I had always planned to use indoor air conditioned air so as to keep it as dry as possible.  The 220 volt is out in the garage. 

Scratch that, I'd just whip up a plug adapter for single phase 220 using my dryer receptacle.  I've made numerous pigtails and extension cords for my welder to go with the numerous configurations in 220 so I'd just do the same for the compressor and still use it indoors with only some nuisance to the remaining household members.

Any possibility that you might remove those cover plates to see exactly how you wired everything up. I'm not near savvy enough with electricity and want to make certain that I don't end of with two hot poles rather than a single, as I understand that I need single pole 220 for my tuxing that has been waiting patiently.  It looks like really fine work and would be much less of a PITA than finding space in my box for another outlet.   Thanks for posting!

[rusty-c]

Let's all be very careful when we talk about 220 volt.  We're talkin' Single Phase, Two poles.  I won't show the inside of my adapters as they are for my welder to connect from the various 220 outlets and the pigtails convert it to use my 100' 8 gauge extension cord with a NEMA 6-50 plug on one end and receptacle on the other.  The reason I posted the pics is because I'm proud of my pigtails.  <--- insert joke here.

If I get the 220 Yong Heng I'd have to make a similar pigtail to use with their supplied cord.  It's looking like I'd have to take their 110 volt usa plug and convert it to be used as 220 volt which is very dangerous because if anyone tries to mess with my compressor and sees the 110 plug, things won't be fun.  I won't know for sure what needs to be done until I have the money to order one.  But I've got a good idea what it will entail.

I appreciate the warning and the concern.  (110v makes you say ouch and 220v makes you a corpse) I bought the Tuxing and what I believe will work, and please correct me if I'm not on the right track, is as follows.  I've cut the end of the Chinese cord off and installed a NEMA L6-20P locking plug to replace it using these connections... White/GrnStripe attached to the ground terminal; Brown to the X terminal; Blue to the Y terminal.

It is my understanding the I will need to run 12 ga. (at minimum) or 10 ga. wire from my new outlet (NEMA L6-20R) to the panel that will be about three feet away.  Ground will of course go to the ground on the panel, and if I understand correctly, the black and white will go to the two poles on the breaker and then I'm set. (making certain to label both as hot)

Where I am not certain is the breaker I will need. Should it be a standard 2 pole 20 amp breaker that is rated for 220v and will take 2 slots in my panel?  My thinking is that this should give me 110v off each to get the 220v in single phase that is required to run this little compressor and keep it from becoming a $400 experiment gone bad.  I'm just being cautious since this is the first time I've run into this type of situation.  Wish I'd have ordered the 110v at this point...

[Buldawg76]

If it's passed thru US Customs it won't be long.

Bill
I have no clue if it has passed thru customs yet or not as I have no tracking number to see exactly where it is so I guess I need to email the seller to see if they can provide some info or tracking number.

Mike

[Buldawg76]

Let's all be very careful when we talk about 220 volt.  We're talkin' Single Phase, Two poles.  I won't show the inside of my adapters as they are for my welder to connect from the various 220 outlets and the pigtails convert it to use my 100' 8 gauge extension cord with a NEMA 6-50 plug on one end and receptacle on the other.  The reason I posted the pics is because I'm proud of my pigtails.  <--- insert joke here.

If I get the 220 Yong Heng I'd have to make a similar pigtail to use with their supplied cord.  It's looking like I'd have to take their 110 volt usa plug and convert it to be used as 220 volt which is very dangerous because if anyone tries to mess with my compressor and sees the 110 plug, things won't be fun.  I won't know for sure what needs to be done until I have the money to order one.  But I've got a good idea what it will entail.

Bizill
I am well aware of the risks involved with AC current and voltage and I have no kids in my house so I will be the only one using the compressor and it will be plugged in at all times so no issue with someone plugging it in or any other device incorrectly. I imagine there are possibly some codes that cover wiring a 120v plug for 220v use so I understand the reluctance to provide the required direction to do so on your part.

Mike

[bandg]

This is all exactly why I chose to spend the money on the transformer.  I was assuming that the people who engineered it would have it providing voltage correctly but assuming can be dangerous.  The Chinese 3 prong plug carrying 220 supply into the compressor is not standard for US but apparently is standard for China and the 220 output receptacle on the transformer is designed to accept that plug along with other  220 shapes as well.  I've noticed no amount of overheating in any of the plugs or cords (wall to transformer, transformer to compressor, or water pump connection) and the transformer itself stays cool and the compressor runs/functions normally.

[Bob Pratl]

This is all exactly why I chose to spend the money on the transformer.  I was assuming that the people who engineered it would have it providing voltage correctly but assuming can be dangerous.  The Chinese 3 prong plug carrying 220 supply into the compressor is not standard for US but apparently is standard for China and the 220 output receptacle on the transformer is designed to accept that plug along with other  220 shapes as well.  I've noticed no amount of overheating in any of the plugs or cords (wall to transformer, transformer to compressor, or water pump connection) and the transformer itself stays cool and the compressor runs/functions normally.

Mine was shipped as a 110 volt model which already had the US plugs installed on the motor and the water pump. My preference was 220 volts because of better motor/wiring cooling (less current) but they had more 110 V models available at shipping time so that's what I got. My shop has 220 volt wiring throughout so that was not a problem. Bob

[OleTomCat]

110v makes you say ouch and 220v makes you a corpse

This statement is so wrong....

120vac kills more people in this country than all other voltages combined, why because people think what you wrote here 'oh it is only 120 volts'  The minimum voltage to deliver a lethal shock is 30 volts.

People I will say this again if you do not know what you are doing call an electrician, it is worth the extra $50.00....