Author Topic: PP700 adventure started(Artemis PP700s-a) (Read 277765 times))

darkcharisma · « **Reply #1960 on:** September 24, 2020, 10:16:55 PM »

not going to reject your good will. sent pm

made a new valve with larger bore. .440 vs .400. probably make new poppet and nee swing gate.

Rallyshark · « **Reply #1961 on:** September 24, 2020, 10:20:39 PM »

Quote from: Rob M on September 24, 2020, 06:48:08 PM

and no , i wont be offfended if you dont want it (-'

Stuff is getting real now

My pp700 is getting jealous,lol. I'm ashamed to admit that it is sitting on a shelf in pieces with no air in it though

I was even considering selling it to someone as a parts gun, Huma reg and all. Maybe, I need to get off my rear and get some o-rings in route to resurrect the poor little guy... You guys are going to make me order another reg assembly to modify for better flow and make a plenum or something!

Rob M · « **Reply #1962 on:** September 24, 2020, 10:31:48 PM »

Duy , the new valve looks AWESOME.. love the square rear, makes a lot of sense for quick teardowns.

Rally , hahahaha im in the same boat. I converted mine to 25 cal , then , for whatever reason I shelved it.then after reading this thread, something inspired me to make the drop block and send it to duy for his experiments.

Rallyshark · « **Reply #1963 on:** September 24, 2020, 10:46:03 PM »

I can think of no one better than Duy to contribute to experimentation

And YES, that valve looks awesome!!

USAFANG6799 · « **Reply #1964 on:** September 24, 2020, 11:41:53 PM »

Subscribing.
Bought one from Wes with .177 & 22 caliber barrels.
There is a reason Wes name rhythms with best because he is the best.

darkcharisma · « **Reply #1965 on:** September 26, 2020, 05:43:15 AM »

making slow progress. that plenum is 5cc effectively doubling the plenum volume from 4cc in the block. thick 1.5" OD body but small ID. probably turn it down to 1" after testing.

Wayne52 · « **Reply #1966 on:** September 26, 2020, 06:00:31 AM »

Awesome valve you made there duy !!! I'll be following this thread for sure. It's been quite a while since of shot my PP700SA, they sure are neat pistols and I've shot quite a bit of game when I was first raging over the gun. Heck I even shot a small ground hog at 30 yards with mine only doing about 16fpe, I have a pistol scope on mine and the darned things really are accurate.

Bob Pratl · « **Reply #1967 on:** September 26, 2020, 07:21:26 AM »

Duy, great improvements.
You have encourage a lot of us to dust off and air up our PP700's as it's been quite a while since I have shot mine.
These are great AG's and well worth you mods. Keep it up.

Rob M · « **Reply #1968 on:** September 26, 2020, 09:19:05 AM »

that looks perfect.. awesome !

anti-squirrel · « **Reply #1969 on:** September 29, 2020, 08:33:05 AM »

Impressive as heck, Duy.

I'm approaching 20,000 shots (approximate guesstimate) on my PP700 and thus far all it wants is to be fed any pellet not a Piranha or Destroyer and get a fresh charge of air. Still accurate enough to take HOSPs freehand with a reflex site @ 20 yards.

darkcharisma · « **Reply #1970 on:** September 29, 2020, 07:46:32 PM »

fitted a 13ci. got some gap from barrel to bottle...that is all calculated in for a regular carbon bottle later on. Wow, lots of work and still not done. but its going somewhere m

Back_Roads · « **Reply #1971 on:** September 29, 2020, 08:02:42 PM »

Cool stuff, giving me ideas for my PP 800 .25 !

Rob M · « **Reply #1972 on:** September 29, 2020, 08:25:50 PM »

very cool

Rallyshark · « **Reply #1973 on:** September 29, 2020, 10:34:43 PM »

Quote from: darkcharisma on September 29, 2020, 07:46:32 PM

fitted a 13ci. got some gap from barrel to bottle...that is all calculated in for a regular carbon bottle later on. Wow, lots of work and still not done. but its going somewhere m

That thing is going to be nuts! I mean that in a good way

Hare Hunter · « **Reply #1974 on:** October 02, 2020, 01:37:43 AM »

Hi ,

Does anyone know where to find ( or maybe have ) a list of all the O-rings in the PP700-SA ?

I don't need to know the SIZES, I am looking for a breakdown of WHERE they go inside the pistol.

Like many new owners of this gun, I went ahead and ordered a supply of O-rings to re-seal it, based on alot of very good info on this forum.

However, they made an error on packing my order, so I am missing the 12.5mm x 1.5mm o-rings. (They sent 12.0mm x 1.5mm instead). I will get them replaced, of course, but it made me realize I still don't know where ANY of them are supposed to go.

But something I better figure out before I start tearing it down, I suppose!

Thanks for anyone who can share this info I need. I imagine it would be useful for future fans of the pistol, as well, to find it posted somewhere.

And I'd gladly throw my money at anyone who ever makes a teardown/rebuild video for it. There are some non-English ones on YouTube, but the auto translate captions are beyond useless. Maybe I will, after I've done it myself a few hundred times !

JungleShooter · « **Reply #1975 on:** October 02, 2020, 04:30:14 AM »

Gerry,
here you go....

What you're looking for is the parts diagram -- attached below as PDF. Note, the PP700S-A is slightly different than the PP700W.

Matthias

O-Rings for Artemis PP700S-A

The sizes in on the Artemis parts list are different than the sizes commonly used when buying o-rings in the US.
Artemis gives us the OUT-side diameter, and then the cross-section.
Sellers in the US give us the cross-section first, then the IN-side diameter.

In the table below you’ll find the o-ring sizes and part numbers taken from the PP700S-A parts diagram, and the numbers converted to US sizes for easier shopping. (No, I’m not perfect, so if you find a mistake, or have an addition, plz. correct me. Thanks!

)

USA Sizes vs. Artemis Sizes PP700S-A
Cross Section X Inside Diameter vs. Outside Diameter X Cross Section
Part No. CS x ID (USA) vs. CS X OD (Artemis)
n/a: 1.5mm x 4mm [two; for fill probe] 7mm x 1.5mm
27 1.5mm x 4mm 7mm x 1.5mm
34 1.5mm x 5mm 8mm x 1.5mm
36 1.5mm x 8mm 11mm x 1.5mm
8 1.5mm x 9mm 12mm x 1.5mm
13 1.5mm x 11mm 14mm x 1.5mm
28 1.5mm x 12.5mm 15.5mm x 1.5mm
38 3.1mm x 20.8mm 27mm x 3.1mm
I did not find this size at the O-Ring Store, but I found: 3.3mm x 22.4mm | and 3.5mm x 20mm

✘✘ Attachment: PP700S-A Parts Diagram
and
✘✘ Attachment: PP700W Parts Diagram

SILENT SQUIRREL · « **Reply #1976 on:** October 02, 2020, 10:09:14 AM »

FANTASTIC!
Thank, you Matthias.

Would you happen to know if either list applies to the M-ROD version of the PP700?
Ed

SILENT SQUIRREL · « **Reply #1977 on:** October 02, 2020, 10:15:05 AM »

Quote from: JungleShooter on October 02, 2020, 04:30:14 AM

Gerry,
here you go....

What you're looking for is the parts diagram -- attached below as PDF. Note, the PP700S-A is slightly different than the PP700W.

Matthias

O-Rings for Artemis PP700S-A
The sizes in on the Artemis parts list are different than the sizes commonly used when buying o-rings in the US.
Artemis gives us the OUT-side diameter, and then the cross-section.
Sellers in the US give us the cross-section first, then the IN-side diameter.

In the table below you’ll find the o-ring sizes and part numbers taken from the PP700S-A parts diagram, and the numbers converted to US sizes for easier shopping. (No, I’m not perfect, so if you find a mistake, or have an addition, plz. correct me. Thanks! )

USA Sizes vs. Artemis Sizes PP700S-A
Cross Section X Inside Diameter vs. Outside Diameter X Cross Section
Part No. CS x ID (USA) vs. CS X OD (Artemis)
n/a: 1.5mm x 4mm [two; for fill probe] 7mm x 1.5mm
27 1.5mm x 4mm 7mm x 1.5mm
34 1.5mm x 5mm 8mm x 1.5mm
36 1.5mm x 8mm 11mm x 1.5mm
8 1.5mm x 9mm 12mm x 1.5mm
13 1.5mm x 11mm 14mm x 1.5mm
28 1.5mm x 12.5mm 15.5mm x 1.5mm
38 3.1mm x 20.8mm 27mm x 3.1mm
I did not find this size at the O-Ring Store, but I found: 3.3mm x 22.4mm | and 3.5mm x 20mm

✘✘ Attachment: PP700S-A Parts Diagram
and
✘✘ Attachment: PP700W Parts Diagram

Matthias
Please take a look at the blue text above
I think CS & OD are reversed
Ed

Hare Hunter · « **Reply #1978 on:** October 02, 2020, 06:22:15 PM »

Wow. Thank you so much , Matthias ! That is perfect and helps SO much.

I will be printing that info for sure. That should be a Sticky on a forum somewhere.

So, it seems the O-ring I am missing is "Part # 28". Which brings me to a follow up question:

If I have a HUMA reg installed, with the original regulator being "bypassed", do I even need to have those #28 O-rings ?

(Sorry if it's a real newb-question, but I am one. LoL.)

Thanks again !

JungleShooter · « **Reply #1979 on:** October 02, 2020, 06:32:23 PM »

Yupp, Edward, thanks for catching that! 👍🏼👍🏼

I messed up the heading:
CS X OD (Artemis)
should read
OD X CS (Artemis)
Thank you.

Matthias

⚠️ To the FORUM MODERATOR: I wished we didn't have this terribly restrictive "feature" that only allows you to edit yiur post for half an hour after posting it..... 🤦🏻‍♂️
Maybe YOU can correct my error there, before it confuses more forum readers.... 😊
Both I and others would be grateful for it! 👍🏼

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