PP700 adventure started(Artemis PP700s-a)

[BSJ]

They were supposed to update the instructions because what they describe doesn't work.

https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=121844.880

[YEMX]

Ah, gotcha...  Well HuMa must have done some kind of an update- the instructions have no mention of making a groove in the threads for venting, but to leave a slight gap (.5mm) between the silver reg housing and the reservoir end cap...  Or is that not enough to vent the reg?

So am I just snugging up the screw w/the white washer and tightening down on the adjustment screw for the belleville washers? 

[BSJ]

Yes. reassemble 'normally' with the washers facing the same way.

The groove idea came earlier in this thread.

With the grooves, you can fully tighten the tube...

When looking for my post, I saw you asking about what pressure setting for 10 ft/lb.     I used 110 bar and hammer spring adjustments on mine to get to 10 ft/lb.

[YEMX]

Yes. reassemble 'normally' with the washers facing the same way.

The groove idea came earlier in this thread.

With the grooves, you can fully tighten the tube...

When looking for my post, I saw you asking about what pressure setting for 10 ft/lb.     I used 110 bar and hammer spring adjustments on mine to get to 10 ft/lb.

yes- you posted on another one of my threads asking about a 10 fpe set up... 

[d-cuttler]

I am a new owner of a PP700SA in .177, and have been kind of lurking here for awhile, while trying to decide if I really like the pistol, and intend on keeping it.

My first issue was the crummy sights, which are a joke, but I just purchased an inexpensive reflex dot sight off Ebay for about $20.00. The sight was manufactured to fit an 11mm dovetail with no adapters, was a clean install, and it works great. I am now in love with the pistol, plan to use it a lot, which brings me to my question.

The intended use is punching paper indoors at no more than 10 meters. I am not looking to see how much power or velocity I can get from it, but would like to set it up for maximum shot count per fill, and low fps is fine. My other pistol is a Gamo Compact which has a velocity of about 470 fps or in that range, which is fine with me.

In it’s present form (stock) the pistol works great, and has no leaks or problems, so I prefer not to do a major disassembly other than removing the grips if possible.

Without going thru a long program of chrony testing are there any ballpark settings that will get me closer to my goal? I am not looking for perfection, just a moderate improvement if that is possible.

Any suggestions would be welcome.

Thank's David

[Wayne52]

David they say there's Glock rear sights that fit them but they're polymer from what I've heard, a nice adjustable rear sight would be great on them for sure because I really prefer open sights on a pistol even though my pistol scope is very accurate.

[bandg]

I have the Glock rear sight under a 1.25-4x32 UTG pistol scope and see through mounts.  The Glock sight is functional and allows adjustment but is not perfect due to design (only a central section moves to adjust and the sight picture is therefore a bit odd).  It does work well enough though and allows me to use open sights for really close shots and start with the scope a bit further out. 

[Rallyshark]

I am a new owner of a PP700SA in .177, and have been kind of lurking here for awhile, while trying to decide if I really like the pistol, and intend on keeping it.

My first issue was the crummy sights, which are a joke, but I just purchased an inexpensive reflex dot sight off Ebay for about $20.00. The sight was manufactured to fit an 11mm dovetail with no adapters, was a clean install, and it works great. I am now in love with the pistol, plan to use it a lot, which brings me to my question.

The intended use is punching paper indoors at no more than 10 meters. I am not looking to see how much power or velocity I can get from it, but would like to set it up for maximum shot count per fill, and low fps is fine. My other pistol is a Gamo Compact which has a velocity of about 470 fps or in that range, which is fine with me.

In it’s present form (stock) the pistol works great, and has no leaks or problems, so I prefer not to do a major disassembly other than removing the grips if possible.

Without going thru a long program of chrony testing are there any ballpark settings that will get me closer to my goal? I am not looking for perfection, just a moderate improvement if that is possible.

Any suggestions would be welcome.

Thank's David

The easiest thing to do in your case would be to adjust the hammer spring.  Just remove the two allen screws at the top of the grip, and the big one on the bottom.  That will give you access to the hammer spring adjustment nut.  Just loosen that nut so that the hammer is barely up against the valve pin.  That will give you a low velocity, and a bunch of shots.  At 10 yards velocity isn't going to matter a whole lot.  That will be the easiest thing without getting out the chronograph. 

[HoDauh]

Any updates on this pistol. I just ordered one from A&H in Spain although I think it's on back-order. Just wondering how Donnys mod went and what results he achieved. Is anyone shooting the stock version and if so what's the verdict? Is it accurate at 30 meters? Beyond?

Just looking for some info.
Cheers


Joe P.

[bandg]

30 meters is a pretty long shot with any pistol but the pp700 seems to be in general very accurate in stock form once you find the right hammer spring setting and fill pressure.

[Techie]

I'm getting consistent 1/2" 5-shot groups at 25 yards with JSB 15.89.  This is with a 4-power scope and resting on sandbags on a bench.  Still has regulator creep after a thousand rounds through it and many velocity adjustments.  This means the first two or 3 shots are lower velocity and then velocity gets consistent as long as you don't wait too long between shots.  From everything I'd read, this is a common problem with this pistol, but can be made better if you disassemble and smooth out the regulator sealing area and washers.

[Rallyshark]

Any updates on this pistol. I just ordered one from A&H in Spain although I think it's on back-order. Just wondering how Donnys mod went and what results he achieved. Is anyone shooting the stock version and if so what's the verdict? Is it accurate at 30 meters? Beyond?

Just looking for some info.
Cheers



Joe P.

If you're talking about my mod, there's a lot of them,lol.  Which mod are you referring to?  I ended up completely removing the factory regulator parts, and making another to get it to seal.  I then installed a Huma regulator, and haven't looked back.  I was able to get it over 25fpe in .177 without the regulator though.  My current tune is shooting the 7.25grain H&N Terminators at 900fps for 32 shots.  It will shoot dime size groups at 30 yards from a rest using a 4X pistol scope.  I'm of the opinion that a Huma is a no brainer for my uses, if you don't mind spending the extra $$ on it. 

If we're talking stock, I think Wayne(Wayne52) has been able to get one of the best tunes I've seen out of a stock pp700.  It is a perfectly usable pistol out of the box, and with good accuracy in most cases.

[Wayne52]

Any updates on this pistol. I just ordered one from A&H in Spain although I think it's on back-order. Just wondering how Donnys mod went and what results he achieved. Is anyone shooting the stock version and if so what's the verdict? Is it accurate at 30 meters? Beyond?

Just looking for some info.
Cheers


Joe P.

For hunting purposes my 22 is great at 30 yards, I actually shot a small ground hog with mine last summer with a great head shot on the state land that I hunt in one of the bean fields.

[bandg]

Some good shooting from you guys.  As a young man I often used a .22 pistol for casual squirrel hunting.  As a 60 year old, hands (and especially eyes) won't allow that kind of hand gun accuracy anymore.  The scope helps but the steadiness is no longer there anyway.  The pp700 is certainly accurate and powerful enough for hunting.     

[Wayne52]

The first time that I ever looked through and shot through a pistol scope it was mounted on a Smith&Wesson 44magnum model 29 a friend set up for deer hunting, what a sweet gun that was and ever since that I've been tempted to get me a big magnum pistol just for hunting deer because that gun ended up downing several deer throughout the years that I know of.  Those old model 29's are rare to find in good shape now.

[Buldawg76]

The first time that I ever looked through and shot through a pistol scope it was mounted on a Smith&Wesson 44magnum model 29 a friend set up for deer hunting, what a sweet gun that was and ever since that I've been tempted to get me a big magnum pistol just for hunting deer because that gun ended up downing several deer throughout the years that I know of.  Those old model 29's are rare to find in good shape now.

I have one of those old model 29s that I purchased back in 1977 from a gun shop in Kissimmee, Florida. I paid 450 in 77 for a 8 3/8 inch blued model 29 for the exact same purpose of hunting deer with it and the matching Ruger 44 mag carbine I have as well. It was one if 7 model 29s that the gun shop owner had on order for several years and when he received the order they all were sold in less than a week.

It would take well over 1500 bucks to get mine out of my hands. It still in mint condition with maybe 200 rounds down the pipe. Pure Dirty Harry special.

Mike

[barreira]

Hi all,

I've tried a lot things to solve the breech air blast of mine,
until I developed a "special" jig for the breech.
No more breech blast anymore. What do you guys think
about it:https://youtu.be/rgNYWlTHRLw.

[barreira]

More pictures:

[SilentMatt]

Finally got to try the Falcon(JSB) 13.4gr pellets in my Crosman barreled PP700. Very happy with the results, the dot in the pic is about 3/4" in diameter and @ 30 yards. I pulled the first one. This was with a $20 4x, with crosshairs that completely cover the dot.

The best part is that I just removed/reinstalled my scope/wire stock assembly and it held zero great.

[Rallyshark]

Hi all,

I've tried a lot things to solve the breech air blast of mine,
until I developed a "special" jig for the breech.
No more breech blast anymore. What do you guys think
about it:https://youtu.be/rgNYWlTHRLw.

Paulo, I don't know how I missed this comment!  I remember seeing this on the fb group, and wondering what in the world you were doing, haha.  Now I get it.  That is some serious engineering to get rid of the breech air leak when shooting!  I bet it works though.  Just goes to show there's more than one way to solve a problem.  Nice work on that one

Finally got to try the Falcon(JSB) 13.4gr pellets in my Crosman barreled PP700. Very happy with the results, the dot in the pic is about 3/4" in diameter and @ 30 yards. I pulled the first one. This was with a $20 4x, with crosshairs that completely cover the dot.

The best part is that I just removed/reinstalled my scope/wire stock assembly and it held zero great.

I just saw the "not Travis" on your avatar, hahaha!  I imagine it was necessary though   Looks like you got that little guy shooting good.  I may have missed it, but why does it have a Crosman barrel on it?  Was your factory barrel bad, or did you want a longer barrel?  I have a 4x on mine, and it does make it hard to do good groups, even though the gun is certainly capable of it.