PP700 adventure started(Artemis PP700s-a)

[sawtoothscream]

I have scoped and unscoped mine a dozen times. It really is sweet all naked and pure. Enjoy it !

Was fun just shooting the iron sights free hand.         Going to play around with my 3-7 rifle scope, pistol scope and red dot.         Can't wait to go after red squirrel this weekend .

[Rallyshark]

I have scoped and unscoped mine a dozen times. It really is sweet all naked and pure. Enjoy it !

Was fun just shooting the iron sights free hand.         Going to play around with my 3-7 rifle scope, pistol scope and red dot.         Can't wait to go after red squirrel this weekend .

Which scope did you get?  I know BSA has a 3-7X.  Given many of my shots are 30 yards+, a scope is must for me.  It is nice and lite "naked" too.  That's a shame about the LDC.  I could never shoot mine without it where I live.  I'd think you would be fine having an LDC as long as the internals are not metal.  The ones with plastic baffles can't be used on a firearm, so there is little debate as to its airgun purposes.  I'm not familiar with the laws where you are though.  Have fun shooting!

[sawtoothscream]

The 3-7 came with my hatsan. The pistol scope is a 2.5 nstar

Think I might get along better with the rifle scope, 99% of my shots will be off shooting sticks in the field.     

As for the ldc,. NY is a really dumb place when it comes to guns.      My gun range is a mile from my house and idc if it's loud while hunting. So not going to test my luck,  don't have much to start with lol.    Plus NY has airguns listed has firearms.     Think they don't care if the airgun comes with it but throwing a adaptor on the gun and a screw on unit is probably enough to get them excited.

[Bizill]

Update and happy to tentatively report that I have gotten rid of my LOUD "POP"! when shooting.  I tore it down again and really got to removing some more of the muzzle end of the valve.  Stainless is tuff stuff for certain to attempt to remove with sandpaper!  I had taken measurements to make a shim for the valve between the end of the valve and the block and also took measurements to make a shim to push the barrel bushing proud of the breech face but I think removing some material was best.

There is no way I could have tightened the valve down anymore to create a better seal on the barrel o-ring. I consider this a qc error.  It happens, but it seems to happen to many of us.  If not for the forums I see some returns coming the way of distributers.  Not everyone is capable nor wants to jerk around with this flaw but like I said, I've handled mine. I won't know for certain until I chrony it as I may have slowed down my fps in the process of removing and re-installing the hammer spring.  But for now I'm happy with the results and now the ag is quiet with the Sumo as it should be.  I do feel that this tighter seal will possibly create premature wear on the 0-ring or even might start wearing the block and breech away as I had to go tight to get a real seal.

[Wayne52]

The 3-7 came with my hatsan. The pistol scope is a 2.5 nstar

Think I might get along better with the rifle scope, 99% of my shots will be off shooting sticks in the field.     

As for the ldc,. NY is a really dumb place when it comes to guns.      My gun range is a mile from my house and idc if it's loud while hunting. So not going to test my luck,  don't have much to start with lol.    Plus NY has airguns listed has firearms.     Think they don't care if the airgun comes with it but throwing a adaptor on the gun and a screw on unit is probably enough to get them excited.

Up until I think it was 2015 any rifled air pistol in Michigan had to be registered in order to buy it, even the .177's, then it went to about anything goes, also the LDC's were also legalized on them recently too, now we can even hunt deer with them but it needs to be pcp 35 cal or larger.

[sawtoothscream]

The 3-7 came with my hatsan. The pistol scope is a 2.5 nstar

Think I might get along better with the rifle scope, 99% of my shots will be off shooting sticks in the field.     

As for the ldc,. NY is a really dumb place when it comes to guns.      My gun range is a mile from my house and idc if it's loud while hunting. So not going to test my luck,  don't have much to start with lol.    Plus NY has airguns listed has firearms.     Think they don't care if the airgun comes with it but throwing a adaptor on the gun and a screw on unit is probably enough to get them excited.

Up until I think it was 2015 any rifled air pistol in Michigan had to be registered in order to buy it, even the .177's, then it went to about anything goes, also the LDC's were also legalized on them recently too, now we can even hunt deer with them but it needs to be pcp 35 cal or larger.

Only way that will happen here is if the stars align, our governor gets canned and a republican gets in ( extremely unlikely).      Even then we would get a rhino that would keep the safe act.

[Wayne52]

Mine shipped with the hammer spring really tight, I've thought about loosening it up and releasing tension on the valve poppet spring but the way it's been performing I think I'll leave it the way it is.

About the only thing I've done to mine is turn the regulator up just a little and it really brought the energy up.  I over did it the first time and it caused funny things to happen with the regulator, rather
than having a consistent string, it would start up low then slowly climb unitil it dropped off fast.  Now the first shot is still unregulated but the the velocities are more even throughout the entire string
until it drops of once it gets past the regulator.  I never messed with the trigger, it's really working nice after the break-in, I can honestly say for my purposes I'm not going to touch it.

[sawtoothscream]

Trigger isn't too bad.   Little heavier then I like but doesn't creep like crazy so I can work with it. 

Going to try and Chrono it Friday or sat morning.   If I can get that string  above I would jump for joy .     Need to order .22 pellets asap though.    Running lower then I like and alot of that is 18 gr exacts.     Hoping it will like the h&n ftt so I can just order a bunch as that's what I use in the b26 .

[bandg]

You can change the two small springs in the trigger mechanism and lighten the pull a lot.   I went to a much lighter hammer spring and a slightly lighter sear spring along with polishing all moving surfaces and now have a pull as good as I could ask for in a pistol.   Don't accept OK if you like to tinker-it can be excellent.

[sawtoothscream]

So any else find that the scope mounting isn't really solid with the rail design?  Can wiggle my scopes.      Probably just have to tighten shroud down more but need to find a tool for it. 

[aluminumfetish]

I have not had mine apart yet but I am going to tear her down soon. I have also noticed the gap between the trigger spring housing and the frame. I am going to knock a little off those long screws. I am also going to try trimming some to get the breech to seal a bit more. I am also going to try lighter springs for the trigger. Maybe too much at once but I hope not to take her apart any more than I have to.

[aluminumfetish]

Sawtooth...   I have notice the width of the frame dovetail is slightly wider than the barrel portion. Maybe it defeats the tensioned barrel idea buti t seems like a monorail connecting the frame and shroud portion would be nice.

[sawtoothscream]

Idk, with my pistol scope setup it's not really Noticable, the mount goes the full length of the frame rail though.   The rifle scope is much more noticeable  with o e mount being full supported by the barrel rail.     But the rail was pretty loose when I received the gun and I only used my fingers to tighten it.

[bandg]

You'll like lighter springs in the trigger.  It can be excellent.  Several ways to tighten the breech.  Rallyshark's trim on the valve bottom, Schultz I believe did a spacer behind the barrel bushing to move it out, and I did a spacer between the visible face of the valve and the breech block to move it in.  I can easily get mine tight enough to make the breech block very hard to move so it does work.  I have noticed no breech leakage since doing that.  I plan to next take the barrel bushing out and replace it with a shorter one (maybe aluminum, maybe delrin) to allow using a much thicker o-ring (measurements suggest 3mm thick) running from the face of the bushing channel as does the stock thin o-ring but extending across to the barrel itself.  Seems a thicker o-ring might seal better and by gradually cutting the replacement bushing back you could make the o-ring stand above the frame face as much as desired/functional.  Just have to take time to make one to try it-I've already ordered a supply of o-rings to try.

[Wayne52]

I never had any problems with my MKII mounting the scope, it's still in the original spot that I mounted it and still accurate.  I even used the Weaver to 11mm adaptors on mine too.  I've basically just been using mine since the day that I bought it with only tweeking of the reg.  I did install the adaptor and LDC that I got from Rocker1 but that's it.  Honestly I can say I've been having a lot of fun with it too, a great little pistol with decent power with a barrel that seems to like about every pellet I've been throwing at it (maybe I should say throwing with it) and everything on it barks quality, especially for a Chinese made airgun!!!

[Rallyshark]

I drilled and tapped the top of the pistol and shroud, and then I mounted a 1 piece low profile weaver mount to mine.  I think the weaver mount is 4 or 5 inches.  I don't remember, because it is one I just had laying around from some of my powder burners.  The benefit of that was that it allows me to mount the scope a bit farther forward, and it fixes the shroud/receiver together.  Of course, I mounted it with the barrel under tension, so that sucker don't move.  I can load the pistol without having to use a pellet pen or cocking the hammer back.  Oh, and it allowed me to use some super light Nikon A mounts, which I've only been able to find for a weaver mount locally. 

[sawtoothscream]

Anyone have a tuning guide for this?  The instructions that came with mine don't have really anything about tuning or where the adjustment are done.   

[Wayne52]

Anyone have a tuning guide for this?  The instructions that came with mine don't have really anything about tuning or where the adjustment are done.   

I searched for a youtube video when I first got the the gun but couldn't find anything really specific but after looking over the exploded view I pretty much figured out where all the adjustments could be made.  I've always been reasonably mechanically inclined however.  I got that pdf that someone posted for english parts.  It's the best pdf I've seen out there.

Eventually I'm sure that someone will do a youtube video on this gun hopefully that shows a complete teardown and where all the adjustments are made.

[sawtoothscream]

Where did you find the English PDF?   Thanks

[Bigship]

This is the craziest hobby/addiction. "I got a new gun, it works awesome, I took it apart."

Those are interesting guns.

LMBO 😂 x 2. Only because I have to resist the urge every time I pick up a perfectly good air gun!