PP700 adventure started(Artemis PP700s-a)

[aluminumfetish]

I put my bug buster on my PP700... the eye relief is WAY short. You would need to offset the scope to the rear to make it shootable imho. I put a cheap BSA red dot on mine. It sits 1.62" over the bore and that makes for a real nice 10fpe, 12 yard zero. My eyes are the weak link in this situation.

[sawtoothscream]

Well pistol scope it is.   Did well with the red dot on my 2240 but crosshairs are much more precise for small game.    Thanks for the help guys, excited for another toy to my always growing collection.     

[sawtoothscream]

Keep up the good work with the stocks.

   

working on the next couple versions.... but they keep calling the house and wondering why Ive not come to work,a dn the wife is yelling to mow the grass...... Geezzz people I got real work to do!!!    

Easy fix.   Turn off the phone, lock the shop door, blast your favorite​ music to cover the wife's yelling and finish the task at hand. 

Might not be pleasant when you come out of the shop,  maybe buy a gift and wear a cup for safety

[wimpanzee]

wimpanzee,

Is that Rocker1's new LDC design? How's the noise level?

Yes, that is Rocker1's MKII LDC, I believe. I have one of the originals as well, and this model makes significantly less noise. Not silent, but defintely backyard friendly at 14fpe in .22.

[Ozarkairgunner]

Haha, look what's here! Time to start working, I'll be posting in the wood working gate as progress goes.



 On a side note I did take my PP700SA apart and cleaned a few things, polished the trigger components and re greased using some silicone grease, as well as re stacked the Bellevue washers (( )) (( )) ((, not sure how much difference yet, crony still hasn't arrived, but just by sound it seems like it's putting out more. I know that's not always the most reliable way to check lol. Also replaced some o-rings and back in shooting condition holding air with no leaks.

[Kid Shelleen]

Need some help again.  I’m starting to working on my son’s PP700S-A and can’t get the shroud end nut off.  It is on TIGHT.  I made a pin wrench from small coat hanger wire that worked fine on my PP700S-A but it’s not strong enough to break loose the really tight shroud nut on my son’s gun.   Anyone have ideas on what I can use to break this loose or what tool I might buy that will work.  I have two Park Tool Pin Spanners, but the pins are both too big.  I think the pin’s I need have to be around .088” in diameter.  I’ve tried needle nose pliers but the nut didn’t budge.  I had even put a couple of drops of WD40 on it hoping the oil would penetrate the threads over night and loosen them.  No luck.  Thanks,  Shelleen

[SilentMatt]

Can't wait to see the finished stock CJ!


Here's a group I shot today. I've polished the trigger components and flitzed the barrel, all stock otherwise. I'm using a tiny $20 4X scope from Amazon. I pulled a couple of the upper left ones.

10 shots, JSB 15.89gr @ 17.6 yards, sandbag and prototype stock:

[SilentMatt]

Need some help again.  I’m starting to working on my son’s PP700S-A and can’t get the shroud end nut off.  It is on TIGHT.  I made a pin wrench from small coat hanger wire that worked fine on my PP700S-A but it’s not strong enough to break loose the really tight shroud nut on my son’s gun.   Anyone have ideas on what I can use to break this loose or what tool I might buy that will work.  I have two Park Tool Pin Spanners, but the pins are both too big.  I think the pin’s I need have to be around .088” in diameter.  I’ve tried needle nose pliers but the nut didn’t budge.  I had even put a couple of drops of WD40 on it hoping the oil would penetrate the threads over night and loosen them.  No luck.  Thanks,  Shelleen

Mine was super tight and was bending my snap ring pliers, so I taped two small Allen wrenches together at the right spacing and put them in the vice.

[Buldawg76]

Need some help again.  I’m starting to working on my son’s PP700S-A and can’t get the shroud end nut off.  It is on TIGHT.  I made a pin wrench from small coat hanger wire that worked fine on my PP700S-A but it’s not strong enough to break loose the really tight shroud nut on my son’s gun.   Anyone have ideas on what I can use to break this loose or what tool I might buy that will work.  I have two Park Tool Pin Spanners, but the pins are both too big.  I think the pin’s I need have to be around .088” in diameter.  I’ve tried needle nose pliers but the nut didn’t budge.  I had even put a couple of drops of WD40 on it hoping the oil would penetrate the threads over night and loosen them.  No luck.  Thanks,  Shelleen

You can make a tool using drill bits that are a snug fit in the holes and a flat piece of steel. Just measure the distance between the holes and drill two holes in the steel that will allow the drill bits to fit in snug. Then using the shank of the drill bits and the piece of steel you should be able to get that nut loose with no damage or the bits bending like the coat hanger does.

Hope this helps.

Mike

[Lmgunner13]

This is the craziest hobby/addiction. "I got a new gun, it works awesome, I took it apart."

Those are interesting guns.

That was funny....but unfortunately accurate...

[Kid Shelleen]

Thanks Matt and Mike.  Matt, I just made a cross county move so my vice isn't mounted yet but I used your idea but with a large pair of vice grips instead.  For the pins, I cut two small lengths of the small coat hanger wire (I was wrong it's about .075" in diameter).  Worked great.  Mike, thanks for your suggestion.  I'm going to make one like you suggested for future use.  Sounds a lot more sturdy then the coat hanger wire.  My Park Tool pin wrench (SPA2) with the approx. .095" diameter pins, works fine for removing the valve. 

[Kid Shelleen]

I'm getting old and senile.  Bangd, posted the suggestion about using vice grips and two steel drift pins or nails back on Reply #256. I'm going to go take my Geritol and take my nappie now. 
   

[bandg]

No worries, glad it worked for you.  I've learned a lot from various folks here and don't always remember exactly where it came from either, we're just lucky to have such a good forum.

[shultz]

wimpanzee,

Is that Rocker1's new LDC design? How's the noise level?

Yes, that is Rocker1's MKII LDC, I believe. I have one of the originals as well, and this model makes significantly less noise. Not silent, but defintely backyard friendly at 14fpe in .22.

Thanks, I need one of them...

[sawtoothscream]

Any impact difference with and without the rocker 1?  I don't hunt with them around here, only yard and basement shooting.     I like to practice after work and that at 2 am so need to be quiet.

[shultz]

Any impact difference with and without the rocker 1?  I don't hunt with them around here, only yard and basement shooting.     I like to practice after work and that at 2 am so need to be quiet.

Best I can offer is it depends...

I have some guns that show no POI change with or without the LDC. I will say most of the time, there is some change. Generally, it's less than an inch or so but I have seen several inches POI shift with NO clipping.

Sometimes, just rotating a slip on LDC can make a slight difference better or eliminate the POI change. Not something you can easily do with thread on LDC unless you can make shims.

It's likely,any shift will be minor unless you get clipping. So, I'd sight in without the LDC,then just accept the POI shift and shoot for group size and trigger time when the LDC is on...

[Rallyshark]

I've had no issues with the LDC, and I have one from Rocker1 as well.  It is just as accurate now, as it was without the LDC.  I can't comment on POI shift, since installing the adapter and whatnot requires a re-zero anyway...  I can't shoot it at home without the LDC, so can't do a direct comparison with and without.

[sawtoothscream]

k, i know i have had good luck with the tko on the 2240 not seeing much if any shift.     oh well if i need to adjust before a hunt that would only take a minute or two.   

[sawtoothscream]

Have to figure out if a want a bug buster or pistol scope now as well.     

I have been tempted to put the Bugbuster I've got on my Prod right now (really love that scope) but without the long eye relief that's so handy with a pistol I'm more tempted to get a better pistol scope than what I've got.

After trying two pistol scopes, and a 2x30 red dot sight, I found NCStar has a 2.5x pistol scope with 10.5" eye relief. In reality, I am finding the eye relief to be useful at anywhere from about 8 to 12 inches. It is pretty generous. I threw that on with a UTG offset QD mount, and it is really nice. I am able to be substantially more precise than when I had the dot on there, even though the magnification is nearly the same - the scope is a lot clearer and brighter.

The offset mount keeps the scope away from the loading area. The eye relief is perfect for bent elbows, and as I intend this for a woods pistol, it should work well for leaning on a tree and whatnot.

Still got that truglo 2x30 dot if anyone is interested in buying it from me. It's a nice sight!

Pic with the scope and mount:

ordered this scope and base combo, both have really good reviews and price is right,  had to throw a high one piece for the b26 as well.   dang today was expensive lol

[Buldawg76]

Thanks Matt and Mike.  Matt, I just made a cross county move so my vice isn't mounted yet but I used your idea but with a large pair of vice grips instead.  For the pins, I cut two small lengths of the small coat hanger wire (I was wrong it's about .075" in diameter).  Worked great.  Mike, thanks for your suggestion.  I'm going to make one like you suggested for future use.  Sounds a lot more sturdy then the coat hanger wire.  My Park Tool pin wrench (SPA2) with the approx. .095" diameter pins, works fine for removing the valve.

Glad you got it loose and off with no damage. Bandg's solution is easier and quicker and I tend to overdo things like tools and such that comes from years as a mechanic working on cars and bikes where you make a tool to use repeatedly so it has to be sturdy and durable.

Mike.