PP700 adventure started(Artemis PP700s-a)

[aluminumfetish]

Haaaaa ! Way to go Darin!!!

 You will have a blast. It's EVERYTHING you wished your 1377/1322 could be and more for 200 dollars ! I have had mine for a month-ish and I am still grinning. I got mine in .177 and I think I am also going to order a .22 just for kicks. By the amount of traffic on these few pp700 threads... they are popular. It fits so darn good in your hand and it's a very good looking gun IMHO. I have mine set up at 10-ish FPE with polymags and with JSB Exact. I know I can milk more out but I am in no rush. Wayne has been clobbering chipmunk after chipmunk with his .22. We are going to have to start a new room just for all the dead chipper photos these guns are going to generate.

[Rallyshark]

Ah... you all have prompted me to spend more $. Just ordered from spain.

The PP700 has claimed another victim,lol!  You'll have a blast with it sir(pun intended)!  They are surprisingly accurate, and I have claimed quite a few furry and feathered pests with mine as well

[Wayne52]

If I was going to buy another one before I'd pay the Mrodair price I'd order from Spain too, heck you save about $50.

[anti-squirrel]

Another victim falls prey to us Enablers... and the cycle will continue!

That PP700 is everything you could possibly want in a single shot pistol.  Accurate, regulated, accurate, adjustable everything, accurate.

They got a little bark on them- a few folks here like David (Rocker1) makes LDCs and adapters.  I'm happy with mine.

[sawtoothscream]

So is the only real difference that cover that goes over the barrel on the mrod air one?     Knowing me I'll have one ordered by the end of the month.     Krale is sold out of .22          still don't know which I want.   

[rusty-c]

So is the only real difference that cover that goes over the barrel on the mrod air one?     Knowing me I'll have one ordered by the end of the month.     Krale is sold out of .22          still don't know which I want.

You'd save some money by waiting and it seems that slow boat from China that delivers to Krale moves much faster than the one that delivers to the states.

[Kid Shelleen]

sawtoothscream.  The newer model PP700S-A with the full square shroud, iron sights and black grips, like the one Rallyshark posted on the very first post in this thread, can be obtained from several sources but I got my second one from aceros-de-hispania (Spain) for $237.37  (211.14 Euro)  shipped.  They replied to my email order within 24 hours and sent me an invoice.  They shipped the order within 48 hours and sent me a notification. I received the gun 10 days later with a full invoice.  Absolutely great service.

[sawtoothscream]

Really want the one with the black grip , just looks awesome to me.  Couldn't find it besides mrod airs site.   Thanks

[Cyknife]

Haaaaa ! Way to go Darin!!!

 You will have a blast. It's EVERYTHING you wished your 1377/1322 could be and more for 200 dollars ! I have had mine for a month-ish and I am still grinning. I got mine in .177 and I think I am also going to order a .22 just for kicks. By the amount of traffic on these few pp700 threads... they are popular. It fits so darn good in your hand and it's a very good looking gun IMHO. I have mine set up at 10-ish FPE with polymags and with JSB Exact. I know I can milk more out but I am in no rush. Wayne has been clobbering chipmunk after chipmunk with his .22. We are going to have to start a new room just for all the dead chipper photos these guns are going to generate.

Its worse than that. I was indicisive as far as caliber so I got the booger green one in 17 and the new style in 22. This pistol reminds me of a build hosted on airgundevelopment website that turned out, Im pretty sure, to be the kaliber gun ocelot proto type. Regardless buying a pair brought the shipped price to 217$ ea. These look to be the optimal pistol/carbine platform. Cant wait. Have to say Im thinking one of these would love a 20 cal barrel at some point!

[SilentMatt]

Really want the one with the black grip , just looks awesome to me.  Couldn't find it besides mrod airs site.   Thanks

I ordered from Mrodair a couple weeks ago, and they actually shipped it the next business day. Just don't expect a any shipping conformation or tracking number.

[Kid Shelleen]

This may be a little off topic but I’ve been curious about who actually makes the PP700 (PP700W and PP700S-A).  I thought it was SPA (Snow Peak Airguns  -  china-airrifle.com) and other companies sold them under rebranded names such as Artemis or Zasdar or MKII, etc.  One company, “Balistas”, lists SPA as the manufacturer of the PP700.  The strange thing is that when you go to the SPA web site, they only show the original PP700W (with the round shroud, no iron sights and green grips).  I wonder if that is because they don’t sell the PP700S-A in China but only export them to specific distributors outside the country.

[Bizill]

Opted not to go with Mrodair this time 'round.  Ordered the .177 from Spain.  Once again it's time to play the waiting game.

[Wayne52]

Opted not to go with Mrodair this time 'round.  Ordered the .177 from Spain.  Once again it's time to play the waiting game.

From what I've been seeing it takes about 10 days from Spain.

[Crooked Penguin]

I'm still working my way through this thread, but thanks to mr. Wayne52's posts in the hunting gate I'm about to enter the darkside and get me one of these pistols too.

I found almost everything I need on my side of the pond besides that sexy little carbon fiber (look?) silencer that seems popular for these guns. Can anyone tell me where to get one of those or does anyone have a spare one they might be willing to let go perhaps?

Also, when shopping around for bottles I kept coming across what they call "fill-stations" over here. Some sort of valve with a dial on it from what i could tell. Do I need one of those too or can I just fill the gun from a bottle directly without anything in between?

[Rocker1]

I Be the one sir pm will work. David

[bandg]

Tried something a bit different for the pp700 today.  As many have noted with their pistols, I had some breech leakage.  To tighten the breech, it had been suggested that the valve could be removed and some material removed from its base to allow it to screw in further.  This has been done by at least one poster and works fine.  I decided to try a different route thinking that removing material from the valve base is irreversible and would to at least some minor degree reduce plenum volume.  I had some 0.4 mm thick metal that I used to make a shim to go between the breech block and the head of the valve.  A picture of the shim is below.  The square corners sit on top of the frame and locate it to prevent rotation but are probably not necessary.   I also made a slightly lighter valve spring to replace the stock spring inside the valve and drilled the transfer port hole on the breech face to match what I could measure at the base.  I leave the TP adjusting screw at the point where it doesn't restict the port and is as flush inside as possible and try to tune with regulator adjustment and hammer spring preload.  Cleaned everything up (quite a bit of metal shavings on the valve body), lubed original o-nngs, reassembled, and filled to 200 bar. 

Result-
No noticeable breech leak
Holding pressure after refilling to 200 bar
Velocity reached 885 to 895 fps range with 7.33 AA-wasn't shooting for group so I didn't check

Still a lot to figure out about fine tune on these things.  I noticed that once a stable velocity was reached that increasing (screwing in) the regulator would sometimes drop velocity but then increasing hammer spring preload would take velocity higher and above the original stable point.  The 885-895 range was the best I could attain today but I only had an hour or so to play around with it. 

[Kid Shelleen]

Need some help with a loose barrel problem on my PP700S-A

I was getting ready to put on one of  Davids LDCs and I unscrewed the retaining nut (not sure of the correct name) off the end of the barrel that holds the shroud on.  I put the LDC adapter on but the barrel kept spinning so I couldn’t tighten the shroud to the receiver.  I read where Schultz drilled and tapped his breech so he could put some set screws in to keep the “breech sleeve/beech plug” (not sure what to call it) tight and be able to screw in the barrel tight.

My barrel is very loose and moves back and forth inside the breech but I can’t tighten or loosen it because that darn “breech sleeve/plug” just spins around.  As far as I can see there is nothing to anchor it and keep it from spinning free.  I’m guessing it was supposed to be a pressure fit but the tolerance was too loose and it just spins around now.

So now I can’t take the barrel off or tighten it down.  Sure could use some advice on what to do.  If I could break the barrel free from the “beech sleeve/plug” and remove it from the breech, I could do like Schultz did, tap the breech and put in set screws to hold the sleeve/plug in place.

Thanks for your help.  Shelleen

[dan_house]

Got a stock built. This my second attempt, as the pistol's format is some what different than say a 1377 or a Disco.....




And this is the heart of the build. HERE is where your build precision skills are tested, and where the final quality of the build will be determined.


Still need to mount optics and create a cheek riser. An adjustable buttpad is required, as you'll never the ergonomics of it right enough, and you may need to adjust for the shooter

[aluminumfetish]

Sweeet. Looking forward to seeing more of this one !

[shultz]

Need some help with a loose barrel problem on my PP700S-A

I was getting ready to put on one of  Davids LDCs and I unscrewed the retaining nut (not sure of the correct name) off the end of the barrel that holds the shroud on.  I put the LDC adapter on but the barrel kept spinning so I couldn’t tighten the shroud to the receiver.  I read where Schultz drilled and tapped his breech so he could put some set screws in to keep the “breech sleeve/beech plug” (not sure what to call it) tight and be able to screw in the barrel tight.

My barrel is very loose and moves back and forth inside the breech but I can’t tighten or loosen it because that darn “breech sleeve/plug” just spins around.  As far as I can see there is nothing to anchor it and keep it from spinning free.  I’m guessing it was supposed to be a pressure fit but the tolerance was too loose and it just spins around now.

So now I can’t take the barrel off or tighten it down.  Sure could use some advice on what to do.  If I could break the barrel free from the “beech sleeve/plug” and remove it from the breech, I could do like Schultz did, tap the breech and put in set screws to hold the sleeve/plug in place.

Thanks for your help.  Shelleen

I think the best approach is to De gas, remove the valve/breech block so you can remove the breech plug and barrel, it will just slide out the back. Once out, the breech plug has a couple of flats that you can get a wrench on, with the barrel secured in say a vice with some UHMW jaw covers you should be able to get the plug off the barrel.

I'd do the set screw mod as well since you have it apart.