PP700 adventure started(Artemis PP700s-a)

[Wayne52]

Donny last night I found out there's not much to adjust for the TP (it was opened all the way) but I did tweak the reg a little and it didn't take much to really bring up the velocity, right now I'm getting 16.4 fpe with the JSB 15.89's.  It's going to be a while before I head back out to the woods (only 44 out right now) but in the meantime I'm going to do a string with the JSB 18.13's just out of curiosity.  I haven't had this gun apart yet but just looking at the threads inside that transfer port block there's room for improvement right there for smoother air flow.  I think I've got the reg at max output because it's dropping off the reg at about 110 bar which is fine for a gun like this.  True I'm only getting a 20 shot string now but it's worth it for now but there's definitely room for improvement.  Eventually I'll probably mod the valve like you did but not right now.

Parts for this gun might be kind of tough to get I'm thinking so for now I'm going to just leave the valve as is until I see some parts available for this gun.

I'll post a shot string of the JSB 18.13's soon

[shultz]

Rallyshark,

Not being able to really tighten the barrel is troubling me. You added a set screw to hold the little breech plug. If you had to do it again, would you?

I nearly drilled and tapped both of my guns for an M3 set screw last night....just want to make sure I'm not making a mistake.

I absolutely would do it again!  It is easy, and doesn't mess with anything

Thanks! I'll get um drilled and tapped.

[Rallyshark]

Donny last night I found out there's not much to adjust for the TP (it was opened all the way) but I did tweak the reg a little and it didn't take much to really bring up the velocity, right now I'm getting 16.4 fpe with the JSB 15.89's.  It's going to be a while before I head back out to the woods (only 44 out right now) but in the meantime I'm going to do a string with the JSB 18.13's just out of curiosity.  I haven't had this gun apart yet but just looking at the threads inside that transfer port block there's room for improvement right there for smoother air flow.  I think I've got the reg at max output because it's dropping off the reg at about 110 bar which is fine for a gun like this.  True I'm only getting a 20 shot string now but it's worth it for now but there's definitely room for improvement.  Eventually I'll probably mod the valve like you did but not right now.

Parts for this gun might be kind of tough to get I'm thinking so for now I'm going to just leave the valve as is until I see some parts available for this gun.

I'll post a shot string of the JSB 18.13's soon

I'm told "loosening" the reg adjustment ups the pressure, but I didn't like it very loose.  I did most of my tuning by changing the belleville stack, and the hammer spring adjustment.  I did open the top part of the transfer block that faces the barrel a wee bit with the dremel, and screwed the TP adjustment screw down to the edge of the hole so it wouldn't be wasting air filling up more space.  Another easy thing you can do is open up the valve spring retaining screw.  All the air has to get through that, and it would be pretty hard to mess that up  

[Wayne52]

Here is a shot string with the JSB 18.3's after adjusting the reg but I honestly think it's changed a little since I first adjusted it using the 15.89's.
She barks a little louder with the reg like this but still very back yard friendly with the Rocker LDC.

[Wayne52]

Also I might ad that since I've gone through a couple hundred shots or more now the trigger in this gun has really gotten to the cats meow point IMO.  Breakin breakin breakin is what it's about, I find no need to fool with my trigger now, at first I thought I'm going to have to address the trigger on this gun but now I'm not going to mess with it

[anti-squirrel]

Wayne, that's plenty of ooomph for small pests out to as far as a pistol is practical.  Also like hearing your trigger is working in.  They're not as perfect as the P-17's trigger, but it gets the job done reliably.

I really need to get a .22 to accompany my .177. 

[bandg]

I just posted on the MRodAir thread about the trigger work I did this morning.  I believe it is now about the same as the P17's I have and I think it could be safely made a little lighter still.  No creep, 2 lbs 7 oz.

[Wayne52]

Wayne, that's plenty of ooomph for small pests out to as far as a pistol is practical.  Also like hearing your trigger is working in.  They're not as perfect as the P-17's trigger, but it gets the job done reliably.

I really need to get a .22 to accompany my .177. 

Pete I got first blood with it this morning, I'll be posting in the hunting gate soon

I just posted on the MRodAir thread about the trigger work I did this morning.  I believe it is now about the same as the P17's I have and I think it could be safely made a little lighter still.  No creep, 2 lbs 7 oz.

My trigger has about the same pull but it's really smooth.

[bandg]

Yep, mine is extremely smooth with a very sharp clean break after the work.  I do believe that a lighter (but possibly slightly longer) spring under the "rocker" piece combined with the coil I removed from the trigger spring (or possibly also a lighter/longer spring at that location) could drop the pull weight even more and still be able to be safe but at some point you would reach the stage of inadvertent firing on bumping.  I've personally never been concerned about that issue with an external hammer handgun because you always know that you've cocked it and you should either fire the shot or lower the hammer for safety.  Guess that's why I have several Ruger single action handguns with very good triggers.

[aluminumfetish]

Hey guys... I just got back from the Fun Shoot in KY (had a great time despite INSANE rain and wind). Rocker1 had his PP700 there and I asked to try it out for a bit. I shot about a dozen pellets through it and immediately asked him if he was selling it, we struck a deal and I am the proud newest owner of the coolest pistol in the world. I was following this thread closely hoping to get my hands on one eventually.. wish granted. I am amazed at how light and simple the pistol is and yet it's packed with features found in guns costing 4x the price. I am sure there is a lot of potential in this thing but I am loving it just the way it is. What a great gun. I mounted a cheapo pistol scope for a bit and found I was shooting better with iron sights. Just wanted to share a bit of my joy.

[Rallyshark]

David seems to have a problem keeping his pistols like these,lol!  He gets one, it gets sold.  He gets another, it gets sold.  Haha, they are very addictive once you get to play with one

[anti-squirrel]

When I sent David mine as a testbed, that was when you were going over yours, Donny.  I got a couple PMs from David cursing me, the whole time I could tell he was laughing and smiling.

Next thing I know, he's ordering a couple.  They are amazingly fun pistols.  That they can offer a lot of features nothing else selling even for $200 more is testament to their versatility.  I'd just like to see a single shot rifle version of the platform- there was a post a while back of one buried in one of the PP700 threads.

Once upon a time, if somebody asked me about a good PCP to get started with, my answer would have been the Disco or Max.  Now, it is the PP700.

[aluminumfetish]

"Once upon a time, if somebody asked me about a good PCP to get started with, my answer would have been the Disco or Max.  Now, it is the PP700."


/\ /\ /\ agree!

[bandg]

Definitely agree also.  I've only had PCP's for a few months but the SPA Varmint .177 which is powerful, accurate, and light as well as this seemingly very well designed pistol have both sold me on the concept. 

[Rocker1]

I still have one seems everytime i get the adapter made and ldc some,one wants it, but thats ok i acturally havent made a profit for on any of these little guns but boy did I feed the addiction lol. David

[Wayne52]

I still have one seems everytime i get the adapter made and ldc some,one wants it, but thats ok i acturally havent made a profit for on any of these little guns but boy did I feed the addiction lol. David

This is a bad addiction I must admit and these pistols definitely aren't a cure for the addiction lol, my latest aim is acquiring a stainless steel fill probe because mine is  getting dings from the ball bearings in the fill whip.  I did find one but it's made in England and as of now you can't buy them from them.

The brass they used to make them is soft

I should be thinking about buying me a good lathe instead of another gun

[mobilemail]

I still have one seems everytime i get the adapter made and ldc some,one wants it, but thats ok i acturally havent made a profit for on any of these little guns but boy did I feed the addiction lol. David

So....you gonna sell it? 

[Wayne52]

Last I knew you could still get them a couple dollars cheaper shipped from overseas than what the sale at Mrodair had

[Bob Pratl]

Last I knew you could still get them a couple dollars cheaper shipped from overseas than what the sale at Mrodair had

I purchased one of my MK II's from Europe and it turned to be $2.00 more with shipping than MrodAir's sale price of $219.00. I received it in exactly 7 days even though it was in customs for two days. Except for the names they are exactly the same. Bob

[Kid Shelleen]

I liked my AirMax MKII so much I just ordered another for my son but through Aceros this time ($237 shipped).  Received a reply in less than 12
hours, full invoice, link to order status and they project delivery in 8 - 10 days (and that's from Spain).  If it gets here that soon that's pretty good service.

On another topic, I'm having some fill issues with my MKII.  Just as I get to about 2900 psi, I'm getting a leak at the fill port.  If I keep the air tank valve open it will fill to 3,000 psi but I'm loosing air for about 3 to 4 seconds.  I haven't seen any posts on this topic yet, was wondering if anyone else is having this problem and any suggested fixes.  Thanks.  Shelleen