PP700 adventure started(Artemis PP700s-a)

[Dairyboy]

Good to hear. Hey by any chance Donny do you know the Oring sizes? If not that's alright but do plan on going through mine to change them all out to buna-n 70 rings. Can't seem to find anywhere to find the sizes of them. Thanks ahead of time!

If you're on facebook, there's a group for this pistol and they have the diagrams in the "files" section(along with a lot of other info).  I'm D Avery Sellars on there, and you can shoot me a friend request and I'll add you.  Its a closed group.  If you don't do FB, shoot me a PM with your email address, and I can email the breakdown and parts list in an attachment.

I don't really do Facebook but I have an account I sent you a friend request!

[Rocker1]

 Not a pistol guy but does make me want to play, Donny measure up that adapter doo hicky thingy from all angles and let me know, do think I can make that thingy ma jig cheaper. David

[anti-squirrel]

Good to hear. Hey by any chance Donny do you know the Oring sizes? If not that's alright but do plan on going through mine to change them all out to buna-n 70 rings. Can't seem to find anywhere to find the sizes of them. Thanks ahead of time!

If you're on facebook, there's a group for this pistol and they have the diagrams in the "files" section(along with a lot of other info).  I'm D Avery Sellars on there, and you can shoot me a friend request and I'll add you.  Its a closed group.  If you don't do FB, shoot me a PM with your email address, and I can email the breakdown and parts list in an attachment.

I don't really do Facebook but I have an account I sent you a friend request!

Is the PM offer open to other PP700 owners   ?

Not a pistol guy but does make me want to play, Donny measure up that adapter doo hicky thingy from all angles and let me know, do think I can make that thingy ma jig cheaper. David

David, I could send you mine to explore if'n you wanna do some custom look-see stuff... such as a longer CF shroud with more hush.  Though I am fond of the terms LDC and silencer, I think I read in another thread a "sound efficiency device".  LOL

As long as it comes back this anti-squirrel guy will be happy to contribute to the cause.

My thought on the overall situation is that these pistols are pretty amazing for the monies.  The more they get in the hands of the experts, the more goodies we get after the fact. 

[Rallyshark]

David I measured it the other night. I'll send you my measurements tonight when I get in front of a computer.

Anti-squerril, of course the offer is open to everyone here. Just shoot me a pm

[Rallyshark]

I got to try the gun today with the LDC on, since I had to do a re-sight in after pulling the barrel and cleaning, and installing the adapter.  The CPUM and Barracuda Hunter Extremes have the exact POI at 20 yards.  I'm still waiting on the the other pellets to play with.  I even managed to shoot a 1/4" 3 shot group with the BHEs today(20 yards).  I stopped after 3, because I knew I had already pushed my luck with the dot sight.  The gun is absolutely more accurate than a dot sight will let it be though!



Peter,
I bet David can do some real magic with your W version, since it has a round shroud that should be much easier to work with!

[anti-squirrel]

Yep, David's LDCs work sweet!  I hope to get mine off tomorrow or Saturday.

Now that group you shot- very nice! especially with a red-dot  But you GOTTA get more pellets.  The tightest groups I've shot was a super-tight not-quite-cloverleafed hole of stacked Silver Arrows 25 yards (scoped).  I'm sure they are capable of the same at 35 or 40 yards in good hands.

[Rallyshark]

Yeah, I have no doubt.  I don't think I could do that again with a dot sight to be honest.  I was just centering the dot in the diamond.  It was covering up the holes...  That is with it sending the 9.57 grain Barracuda Hunter Extremes at about 830fps.  It will send the 7 grainers up to 900 me thinks

[anti-squirrel]

Yeah, I have no doubt.  I don't think I could do that again with a dot sight to be honest.  I was just centering the dot in the diamond.  It was covering up the holes...  That is with it sending the 9.57 grain Barracuda Hunter Extremes at about 830fps.  It will send the 7 grainers up to 900 me thinks

9 1/2 grains at 830 means serious pesting.  If it likes the Barracudas Hunter Extremes, I'm willing to bet it also likes the Sniper Magnums.  15 grains of Ouch, though I think I only got 540 FPS... still plenty to give a couple squirrels permanent headaches at the short distances I'm working.

[Rallyshark]

Yeah, I have no doubt.  I don't think I could do that again with a dot sight to be honest.  I was just centering the dot in the diamond.  It was covering up the holes...  That is with it sending the 9.57 grain Barracuda Hunter Extremes at about 830fps.  It will send the 7 grainers up to 900 me thinks

9 1/2 grains at 830 means serious pesting.  If it likes the Barracudas Hunter Extremes, I'm willing to bet it also likes the Sniper Magnums.  15 grains of Ouch, though I think I only got 540 FPS... still plenty to give a couple squirrels permanent headaches at the short distances I'm working.

Yeah, I bet the sniper magnums have some good penetration!  I was going to get some, but they were out at PA when I ordered the other pellets. 

And that isn't at full tilt.  That is just the tune I have it running.  I think it can squeak those 9.5s up another 50fps easy, because it shoots the CPUM 10.5s in the 790s range with the same tune.  I can tune it to shoot the 10.5s around 825fps, before it becomes a complete air hog tune... 

Right now I think I have it in the sweet spot of power/efficiency.  I don't think I'm gonna change it from where it is, unless I get bored and start making new parts to "improve" it further.  I mean, I have my other guns that are capable of way more juice if I need it.  Although, I haven't really touched them since I got this pistol.  I've just been having so much fun with it

[Rocker1]

 Is this the same gun guys, give me some links please, awhile back motorhead took a pistol apart is this the same one?? David
 http://mrodair.com/mrodair_airmax_precision_match_pcp_pistol_with_externally_adjustable_regulator

[Tims229]

David, that is the newer model and has a different looking barrel than the original PP700.  The original one kind of has a "shroud" over the barrel.  But if you could make an ldc for the one on Mrodair's website I would be interested as I just ordered one last week.

[Tims229]

Ribbonstone has a picture of the original model earlier in this thread.

[anti-squirrel]

The following link at Aceros-de-Hispania has both models visible:  http://www.aceros-de-hispania.com/gb/infer.asp?ac=8&trabajo=listar&pa=pistolas-pcp&sg=pistolas-pcp

Currently, you can buy the green-booger-handled model for a sliver under $200 delivered to your door (assuming you live in the US).  The Black-handled model with sights will cost a little more.

Krale-Schietsport has only the booger-handle, and will run ~$230 delivered to the US. 

I cannot praise this pistol enough; it is worthy of good glass and experimentation.  Mine started out delivering only about 30 shots before falling off the reg, but a little listening and tweaking (prior to owning a chrono) gave me 40+ shots out of 67CC (some of which is consumed by the reg).  I would consider this pistol to be one of the best purchases in PCP airgunning available.  SPA really hit this one out of the park.

[Ribbonstone]

Will mention, for a short time, MrodAir is going to sell the black grip MKII version for $200 (OK..a few pennies under that).

[Rallyshark]

Is this the same gun guys, give me some links please, awhile back motorhead took a pistol apart is this the same one?? David
 http://mrodair.com/mrodair_airmax_precision_match_pcp_pistol_with_externally_adjustable_regulator

That is the version I have David.  The PP700W is the one that has been around for a little while, and the one I have is the PP700S-A, which has a little longer barrel, and less effective shroud.  You could also look at as W has round shroud(same version Motorhead was playing with), and the S-A has the square shroud and sights.

[Rallyshark]

I forgot to mention that my other pellets showed up today.  There is good news and bad news with that.  The bad news is that the gun doesn't really like some of them, but the good news is that it really likes the ones I was hoping it would. 

JSB 13.4 grain was just okay.  I wouldn't use them, unless I needed to thump something at close range.  The gun did sling them at 781fps making a little over 18fpe though.  They were doing good to shoot a 1" group at 20 yards, so the gun didn't like them as well as some others.

Beeman 10.65 grain was a little better than the JSBs, but very different POI and still not great.

H&N BH 10.34 grain shot like complete junk, which surprised me a bit.  They are extremely accurate in my .22s.  They were closer to a 2" group, so usless.  Maybe they'll work in my springer that I never shoot?

H&N Terminator 7.25 grain, WINNER!  They shoot as good as I can.  They matched my best groups with any pellet I have and are moving right at 900fps   These will be my go to small pest pellet, no doubt.

Of course my previous two pellets I have tried shoot very well.  The CPUM 10.5s are accurate(and cheap) and will be my go to plinking pellets, and the H&N BHE 9.57s will be my go to critter pellet for when I need a little extra oomph.  These two, along with the Terminators, should cover all my needs with the pistol, so I'm happy with the outcome. 

[dang3r]

Hey guy's, very interesting topic! I just ordered same pistol from Aceros in .22 cal. This is my first airgun and I'm really excited, but being mechanic engineer, tweaking and tuning everything is my passion. So could someone add me facebook group so I could harvest more info.

[titeuf007]

i am plan to buy one(here i can get one for 180euro shipping cost inclued for standart version pp700)
i would like to change the original barrel with hw barrel blank
i want to add longer lenght to increase a lot my power !so i would like to change the 9inch version for 18inch hw
do you think i could get 20fpe energy

[Rallyshark]

Andreas,
I'd add you if I knew your facebook name, but the name of the group is:
SMK PCP pp700w Pistol Owners Tuning and Modifications Group.

You should be able to search for it and find it to add yourself, which is what I did initially.  I'm D Avery Sellars on there if you can't find it.

Loic,

Almost anything is possible with a little bit of work   I have mine doing that power level now with the 10.5" barrel in .177.  It should be easier to get that power in a .22 though.  I don't think you'll need an 18" barrel to do it, if you do the right mods.

[dang3r]

Donny I thought you was moderator on this facebook page, I sent request to join days ago but because it is closed group it must be accepted by mod, or any other member must invite me. My fb name is Andreas Stella and profile pic is a cartoon family