Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report



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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #40 on: April 01, 2017, 04:03:45 PM »
Looks the same and and acts the same but is it the same?
Carrette manufacturer went trough the trouble and sent one person at tag a sample unit to evaluate namely guykuo.
And told he is the original designer of the compressor that was evaluated, and all of a sudden someone who has a questionable reputation on sellin even more questionable compressors has a product that looks the same, same but slightly different, so I will call it a knockoff.

And in the mean time carrette manufacturer has made deal with JoeB to distribute for them?
Go check on tag what's what.

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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #41 on: April 01, 2017, 08:14:34 PM »
The actual Carette manufacturer and developer of the compressor put in the time, work, and development effort to create the Carette compressor. They have selected Joe Brancato as their only US distributor. When they learned of someone making similar looking compressors being sold, they are understandably upset. China has a horrible problem with knock-offs. Unscrupulous individuals are very good at making things look nearly identical. Where the legitimate manufacturer is located makes no difference. They are still being ripped off.

These compressors must safely work at 4500 PSI and you're taking a risk going with unknown build quality.  If you buy a clone, you have no idea what build quality or materials are being used. You're also supporting the low life cloners. The legitimate manufacturer is using quality parts and working with a dealership that will stand behind the product.

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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #42 on: April 01, 2017, 09:10:59 PM »
So we have 2 choices on these similar looking compressors.
From what I can tell they look almost identical (Not a professional compressor inspector)
The claims are identical
The price is almost identical
Why would someone take the chance on the untested version; clone or not?
This in depth review sold me as I was having a tough time between this compressor and the Omega Air charger.
I don't have a lot of expendable cash so when I make a large purchase like this, I expect to get my money's worth.
An email was sent to Joe B. today putting my name on the list for the next shipment.

Keep in mind that if this review would have been done on the "clone" version, with the same results, a compressor from Mrodair would possibly be heading to my residence.

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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #43 on: April 05, 2017, 11:59:30 AM »
Thx for your elaborate work on reviewing this new compressor. I'm sure by now in Holland & Belgium they have been following up on what you ve established.

I have a question for you on identification of the compressor you have reviewed. Here in the Lowlands a new Chinese compressor is being introduced by its importer.

(https:) //luchtbuks.com/nl/lbc-300-bar-compressor-internal-cooling

Would you say the compressor shown in the above link, is exactly the same compressor, coming from exactly the same origin as the one you have described and reviewed here? or is it perhaps the 'lookalike' compressor? I would just like to be sure. Can you pls tell me?

Thx.




PS : At trying to post, i ve just now been informed i cannot post external links (so i have to leave out https: in the reference) , but would you pls have a look at the site of the importer for Holland & Belgium, which is luchtbuks.com , googling my reference to the link. Thx alot.
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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #44 on: April 05, 2017, 01:08:20 PM »
It looks right, but I really can't tell externally.

I will ask the Carette manufacture whether that is their distributor for Belgium and Holland.

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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #45 on: April 05, 2017, 05:37:35 PM »
I don't know explicitly either,  but that most certainly is their YouTube advertising....

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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #46 on: April 05, 2017, 07:36:14 PM »
Got confirmation from Bosun that it's legit.
They are the sole distributor in Europe.
Just got their first 30 units in stock in the Netherlands.
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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #47 on: April 06, 2017, 10:13:25 PM »
Has anyone got theirs yet?
And if so what do you think of it?
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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #48 on: April 07, 2017, 04:32:07 AM »
Got confirmation from Bosun that it's legit.
They are the sole distributor in Europe.
Just got their first 30 units in stock in the Netherlands.

Thx Guy. Appreciate that.
A nice weekend, to you and your family.

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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #49 on: April 16, 2017, 10:41:50 PM »
So whats the update on this thread?
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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #50 on: April 17, 2017, 04:51:52 AM »
One of the "early birds" reported on TAG forum reports he has gotten a tracking number and is expecting delivery the 20th.
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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #51 on: April 20, 2017, 07:49:11 PM »
Looky looky here!

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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #52 on: April 20, 2017, 08:39:58 PM »
Sweet.
Who did you get it from?
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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #53 on: April 20, 2017, 08:50:29 PM »
The manufactures direct Eric....

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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #54 on: April 24, 2017, 03:15:54 AM »

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Looky looky here!

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............. Derrick, ok what is your opinion on the unit now that you have it ? mine is supposed to be here tomorrow (monday )
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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #55 on: April 24, 2017, 01:33:12 PM »
The one tank that I have filled so far (2900-4500) was smooth as ice....The unit is beautiful!..Robust machining,gorgeous logical layout, and .....QUIET!!....you simply will NOT believe how quiet it is...off all of the videos that I had seen of the Carette, none of them gives you a real sense of it's sound in 1st person....
Now that the weather is warm, my shooting will ramp up....which means more air used, more tanks to fill.....I hope to be using this one for long, long, time!

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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #56 on: April 24, 2017, 02:52:30 PM »
Sweet~ Mine just arrived this morning, but of course I forgot to order some high quality oil for it so I'll have to wait till that arrives before I can play with my new toy ::)
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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #57 on: April 24, 2017, 04:01:04 PM »
Don't use regular motor oil or synthetic motor oil. You need high pressure air compressor oil like https://www.augustindustries.com/shopexd.asp?id=613&bc=no
or the Coltri equivalent.

The high pressure compressor oil is formulated to resist detonation at the high pressure/temperature of a high pressure compressor. Motor oils are not suitable for this application.

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Tank Filling procedure...

roper filling is to start with the tank main valve and tank fill whip bleed valve closed.

Close the bleed at the top of the PMV, but open the manual drain at the water/oil separator.

Set the auto shutoff pressure to 4500.

Start the compressor. Because the drain valve is open, it will see no load. Let it warm up for about 10-15 seconds to distribute its oil before it gets loaded.

Close the drain valve. The pressure will steadily rise in the compressor. You should see the Carette gauge gradually rise. At the point the PMV opens, you will notice the rate of pressure rise drop for a moment. That's probably around 2200 PSI.

Let the pressure continue to build to approximately equal to your tank pressure. Gradually open the tank valve to full opening. This lets compressed air enter the tank. The timing of opening the tank when the compressor reaches tank pressure is to avoid suddenly loading the compressor with full tank pressure.

Don't keep the compressor running too long without a path for air to exit. You don't want to over pressure the compressor. The auto shut off should kick in before something goes awry, but it is best to keep an eye on things until you know all is functioning well. On my first run, I intentionally set the auto shutoff low so I could verify its function.

During tank filling, the Carette pressure gauge should read pretty close to what your tank gauge reads. If they are grossly mismatched, something is impeding flow and/or you have a leak at the fill whip bleed. If the gauges are way off match, stop the compressor and troubleshoot before continuing.

You will see the pressure in the compressor rise as the tank fills.

Let the Carette auto drain fire every 10 minutes for about 2-3 seconds. You can also manually drain the separator, but the auto drain should do the work for you.

Once the tank reaches fill target pressure (4500 PSI), turn off the compressor.

Close the tank main valve.

Open the manual drain valve and bleed valve at the top of the PMV.
Turn on the Carette and let it run for 3-4 minutes without a load to clear out its cylinders of any residual moisture.

Turn off Carette and close the drain and PMV drain.

Open your tank bleed valve to ensure the hose is depressurized.

Disconnect tank
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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #58 on: April 24, 2017, 05:58:44 PM »
I've got Chemlube 751 on the way after doing a lot of reading over the past few months.  Of course I could've ordered it sooner, but my procrastination always gets the best of me ;D
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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #59 on: April 24, 2017, 06:52:15 PM »
Sounds like you'll be all set.
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