Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report



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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2017, 04:20:22 PM »
I agree,

We are torturing ours now and hope to have a inclusive video on them this weekend.

I very much appreciate your review and do in no way mean to take from it.

This has been in the works for quite some time for us as well as the small "Tuxing" type which we passed on do to frequent service.

As for our service, it is being improved as we go and no doubt still needs ALOT of improment.

Keeping our "feet to the fire" is a good thing and we hope to be adding 2 more to our staff in the next 5-6 weeks for that purpose.

It has taken a while, as we didn't want just someone off the street with no knowledge of our products.

Thanks Again for your work.
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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2017, 05:07:42 PM »
Newbies, especially, be very careful out there.
Some are happy to take advantage of you while being absolutely OK with themselves.

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Breaking news....
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2017, 07:23:20 PM »
Joe Brancato at AirTanksForSale is now the exclusive dealer for the real Carrette compressors!

This pairs two entities, in whom one can trust, together. Definitely a great development for air gunners I think.

Finally, a decent mid-range compressor along with good, US support from a trustworthy dealer.



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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2017, 08:13:52 PM »
Do you know when they will be available through JoeB?
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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2017, 08:20:18 PM »
The manufacturer was saying the new configuration, production batch wouldn't be coming out of factory until end of Feb or March for their introductory special. Now that they are working with Joe, I don't know if things have changed. Best to inquire with Joe.

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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2017, 12:19:35 PM »
Thank you very much for the extensive review with photos !
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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2017, 02:38:54 PM »
What do you estimate the rebuild/service interval?
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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2017, 05:06:20 PM »
I can't give an estimate in MTBF. What I can say is....

My usage, as a single air gunner, is topping up a Great White from 3000 to 4500 about once a month.
The test unit got through the equivalent of two years of my usage without any appreciable wear in the section most prone to wear failure, the high pressure cylinder.
I could observe no reason the compressor should need rebuild before a few times that usage.

The lack of high pressure rings to wear out is a huge design leap for this level of compressor. That is a big difference from the easily observed high pressure ring erosion that happens in higher RPM, 2 cylinder, phenolic ringed machines in just a hour or two of operation. Running so dramatically cooler and at a low RPM really lessen stress and wear for the Carette. Unlike its high rev peers with rings, you shouldn't need to rebuild the high pressure cylinder of the Carette for a very long time.

In a single user usage role, I would expect at least five years of service. With proper care, it's probably going to be quite a bit more than that. Personally, I would expect a unit to be still running at ten years, but we're just guessing.

Use actual dive compressor oil. Keep it at the correct level and change the oil regularly. Compressor oil does not darken as it ages. Just change it every year or when hours operation reach manufacturer recommended hours, whichever happens first.

Also, I would always let the compressor run for 2-3 minutes with its vents open AFTER each use. That will clear the cylinders of residual humidity, especially important given our long intervals between uses.

Here is the manufacturer maintenance schedule...

You definitely get the impression they are expecting a lot more use than I put in as a single shooter.
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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2017, 05:13:34 PM »
Wow...great review. Just now found it. Thanks!
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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2017, 08:15:40 AM »
Thanks.

I'm looking forward to hearing from people with production units. They should be arriving in the next few weeks.
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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2017, 12:31:38 PM »
I'm number 2 on Bosun's list so I am looking forward to putting it in action in the next few weeks.
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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2017, 02:13:01 PM »
I'm somewhere on that list as well....last communication I had with him stated that the units would be ready to ship........The 25th (Today)!

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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2017, 12:03:41 AM »
I am also on the earlybird  list, & haven't heard anything from Bosun, yet , but hoping every day , the only reason for making the decision  was Guykuo's great write up. , roger
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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #33 on: March 28, 2017, 11:11:03 PM »
Latest word on delivery timing....

Their motor suppliers were delayed delivering the motors for the compressors....

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.....Today Sincere is going to receive the first batch of motors from Shanghai factory which is for Joe's first order.
And the motors from another factory in Fujian province just send out the motors yesterday. I guess after two or three days Sincere will receive them. Those are for early list buyers.

So basically, the early list buyers shall receive the compressor around 10th to 15th,April.
And Brancato may receive the first batch around early May.

We are really sorry for all the delay.

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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2017, 02:40:15 AM »
Some knockoff maker taking all the motors.

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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2017, 09:39:05 PM »
I spoke to Adam who works with Joe B today to check on my order. I was told they expect their first delivery for late next week and they should begin shipping out to customers on the pre order list the week of April 10, 2017 . I'm on the east coast so it will probably take a week for them to arrive. I'm pretty confident waiting for this one was the right choice in this price range. My grandfather use to tell us when he was a kid everyone who could had to be their own mechanics to keep the car running. I'm hopeful we can get away from that with the Carette.  The other similar priced units are being rebuilt every 50 to 100 hours and while that's  not that difficult who needs the headache.
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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2017, 04:26:39 AM »
Some knockoff maker taking all the motors.

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Knockoff? What do you mean? I don't see any 'Knockoff' Compressor yet.
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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #37 on: April 01, 2017, 08:05:02 AM »
I think the theory goes that anyone other than Joe selling the carette is a knockoff... To be honest, this one looks very similar to my untrained eye: http://yhst-139878093962642.stores.yahoo.net/aimkivdescco.html
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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #38 on: April 01, 2017, 12:41:08 PM »
Now that is just dumb. All joe is doing is shipping these compressors here, add a few hundred dollars as profit, and shipping them to your door. There is no 'Knockoff' going on here.
I'm not angry or anything, i just hate to see that people think everything from China is a knockoff
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Re: Carette 4500 Compressor Testing and Tear Down Report
« Reply #39 on: April 01, 2017, 01:32:05 PM »
Now that is just dumb. All joe is doing is shipping these compressors here, add a few hundred dollars as profit, and shipping them to your door. There is no 'Knockoff' going on here.
I'm not angry or anything, i just hate to see that people think everything from China is a knockoff

The Carette is from China I believe.  That is where they are made I believe.  Does not mean they or any other ones are "knock-off" models.  It is just a style of high pressure compressors.  Lower quality materials could be used to make the prices lower, but how does one really know what they are made of until they get one and run it for a period of time.  I bought an Omega Supercharger, guess what is written on the side of the box...."Made in China".  Does not mean it's junk by any means.  That is just where it is manufactured.  I did my research before ordering one and was confident it would meet my needs in a home compressor so I purchased it.  Are there other compressors out there that look like an Omega for less?  I'm certain that there is, but I bought from a reputable dealer that is endorsed here at GTA.  That was all I needed to know I was getting the best because only the best dealers are endorsed here.
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