Water removal recommendations for Shoebox compressor?

[FuzzyGrub]

http://shoeboxcompressor.com/images/stories/shoebox_19fps.gif

I saw somewhere that Tom indicated that it was a drawback of the auto-oilers is more lube in the output.  The animation above shows you the lube has to get past the outer o-ring to reach the inner.  That puts it in the air pathway. 

After filling a tank, I use to run the max with nothing on the input and output, and add a couple of drops of silicone oil to the input. 

I agree with Alan that using a bleed, back at the compressor will do allot to contain it.  I have an aftermarket one near the output.  The mini-gold filter that I use is only 1" away from the output.  As I said, no evidence of any oil/grease has made it that far. 

[Trigger_Finger]

So how you guys suggest I should remove some of the Silicon saturation inside the microbore tubing?

[FuzzyGrub]

So how you guys suggest I should remove some of the Silicon saturation inside the microbore tubing?

If it is detachable, can blow it out with the 1st stage compressor.  If attached to fill assy, secure the end, such that it can't whip about, and slowly crack the valve open.  Just barely crack it open.  Be careful.

[Trigger_Finger]

So how you guys suggest I should remove some of the Silicon saturation inside the microbore tubing?

If it is detachable, can blow it out with the 1st stage compressor.  If attached to fill assy, secure the end, such that it can't whip about, and slowly crack the valve open.  Just barely crack it open.  Be careful.

Duh, why didn't think of that. I will connect it to the 4500 psi tank.thanks.

[FuzzyGrub]

My vibration hour meter is not working, even on the most sensitive of settings.  I thought the sewing machine motion would be more than enough.  I have only tried it mounted on top of the chassis,  parallel with the long axis.  I need to try it rotated 90 degrees, or see if there is a spot on the 1/3hp motor to try. 

FWIW: I just rotated the vibration hour meter 90 degrees and appears to be working fine now.  Still on the most sensitive setting.

[Trigger_Finger]

Fuzzy, I placed mine on top horizontal. I thought it wasn't working.  So I used it for 1 hr+ for the first time weeks ago and at the end it showed "1.2". Maybe 1hr 20 min? I may have to rotate it but the self adhesive glue is pretty strong.

[FuzzyGrub]

Fuzzy, I placed mine on top horizontal. I thought it wasn't working.  So I used it for 1 hr+ for the first time weeks ago and at the end it showed "1.2". Maybe 1hr 20 min? I may have to rotate it but the self adhesive glue is pretty strong.

When I had mine mounted horizontal it racked up only 0.3 hours for what was probably 10 hours or more.  I rotated it today and filled a 90 ci and guppy and now it reads 2.5 hours.    The glue was pretty strong and had plenty of adhesion left to put it back on. 

[Trigger_Finger]

Ran from 3500-4500 in 1hr 11 minutes. The Yongheng filter was able to absorb some of the oil that the SB was spitting out.

[Taso1000]

Alfonso,

I like how you used the tripod/stand to mount your filters!  Great idea!

Taso

[Trigger_Finger]

Alfonso,

I like how you used the tripod/stand to mount your filters!  Great idea!

Taso

Thank you for liking the idea. Taso, that came from a electricity guzzling halogen work lamp which i got rid off.

[chwillbill68]

Ran from 3500-4500 in 1hr 11 minutes. The Yongheng filter was able to absorb some of the oil that the SB was spitting out.

Looks great! I got mine all set up just need to use enough air from my tanks to fill them back up.

[Taso1000]

Hi All,

I got all my air drying stuff plumbed together and mounted on my board.  I conntected the California Air tools compressor and the Shoebox and fired up the CAT compressor. 

I still have a leak from the bowl gasket on the last particilate particulate filter that feeds the Shoebox and the outlet quick disconnect to the Shoebox leaks too.

I went ahead and ordered a pair of the expensive, $5 each, SMC replacement seals/o-rings because my two o-ring guesses were either too fat and wouldn't go together or too skinny and leaked.  If the leak doesn't stop I will buy another of the nicer filters, AMD150C.  They have the way better sealing system.

I'm almost gonna compress some air very soon, finally!   

Thanks,

Taso

[chwillbill68]

Hi All,

I got all my air drying stuff plumbed together and mounted on my board.  I conntected the California Air tools compressor and the Shoebox and fired up the CAT compressor. 

I still have a leak from the bowl gasket on the last particilate filter that feeds the Shoebox and the outlet quick disconnect to the Shoebox leaks too.

I went ahead and ordered a pair of the expensive, $5 each, o-rings because my two oring guesses were either too fat and wouldn't go together or too skinny and leaked.  If the leak doesn't stop I will buy another of the nicer filters, AMD150C.  They have the way better sealing system.

I'm almost gonna compress some air very soon, finally!   

Thanks,

Taso

Looks great Taso!   I have mine all set up also. But have not needed air in my two tanks yet.  I am worried I will have leaks here or there.  Guess I will have to try it on my next days off.

[RobertMcC]

Living in Damp Nova Scotia has it draw backs.  I thought having a water separator filter and a desiccant filter would be enough. well I was wrong.



I ran my shoebox for 15 hours off and on, over 3 days. The desiccant filter is totally pink. So made me thing that I need MORE. I tried making a bigger one out of ABS, but that blew up and shot 96 cu inches of silica cat litter all in my basement. So I resorted to 12" x 2" threaded pipe.

Now seeing everybody elses setup. I need to redo mine.

Now I need to find out if that hose off my shoebox is 1/8 NPT or M10x1?

[Trigger_Finger]

Hi All,

I got all my air drying stuff plumbed together and mounted on my board.  I conntected the California Air tools compressor and the Shoebox and fired up the CAT compressor. 

I still have a leak from the bowl gasket on the last particilate particulate filter that feeds the Shoebox and the outlet quick disconnect to the Shoebox leaks too.

I went ahead and ordered a pair of the expensive, $5 each, SMC replacement seals/o-rings because my two o-ring guesses were either too fat and wouldn't go together or too skinny and leaked.  If the leak doesn't stop I will buy another of the nicer filters, AMD150C.  They have the way better sealing system.

I'm almost gonna compress some air very soon, finally!   

Thanks,

Taso

Taso nice setup. Looks like a Science lab!. I still suggest a cheap tampon like filter on the output before the expensive Alpha filter though. Like I reported before here or on that other Shoebox thread that when I over oil the felt pad, silicone oil was coming out of the Shoebox saturating the microbore hose which probably got caught in the beloved Alpha filter.

[Trigger_Finger]

Living in Damp Nova Scotia has it draw backs.  I thought having a water separator filter and a desiccant filter would be enough. well I was wrong.



I ran my shoebox for 15 hours off and on, over 3 days. The desiccant filter is totally pink. So made me thing that I need MORE. I tried making a bigger one out of ABS, but that blew up and shot 96 cu inches of silica cat litter all in my basement. So I resorted to 12" x 2" threaded pipe.

Now seeing everybody elses setup. I need to redo mine.

Now I need to find out if that hose off my shoebox is 1/8 NPT or M10x1?

What was the psi rating of the ABS you were using? I have over 2 hrs on the pvc pipe I made and so far at 350 psi rating  it still holding.

[Taso1000]

Thank you Bill and Alfonso!  It's taken a long time but I am so close to testing the effectiveness of my madness hypothesis lol.   

Alphonso, The way I've integrated the drip leg/trap at the Shoebox outlet, it "should" capture any oil or condensed water that is created due to the pressure maintaining valve.  I hope.  The really low flow should make things easier as it shouldn't be blowing up into the Alpha filter.

Member Humdinger posted a reply, #5, in this thread:  https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=141339.msg1428123#new of a water and oil separator.  If it is nothing more than a chamber to trap oil or water by condensation or gravity then it has nothing additional to offer my setup. 

I am not changing anything in my setup until I compress some are air and have results.  I have the humidity indicator disk right before the alpha and the silica gel right after the membrane dryer. 

Thanks,

Taso

[RobertMcC]

Living in Damp Nova Scotia has it draw backs.  I thought having a water separator filter and a desiccant filter would be enough. well I was wrong.



I ran my shoebox for 15 hours off and on, over 3 days. The desiccant filter is totally pink. So made me thing that I need MORE. I tried making a bigger one out of ABS, but that blew up and shot 96 cu inches of silica cat litter all in my basement. So I resorted to 12" x 2" threaded pipe.

Now seeing everybody elses setup. I need to redo mine.

Now I need to find out if that hose off my shoebox is 1/8 NPT or M10x1?

What was the psi rating of the ABS you were using? I have over 2 hrs on the pvc pipe I made and so far at 350 psi rating  it still holding.

Not sure, but blew the end cap off, and punched out the 1/4 IM fitting.

[RobertMcC]

I ordered a cart. So I can put the small compressor on the bottom, shoe box on top. Ordered another 1/4 filter for the low pressure and a tampon style for the high pressure.

Will just need to make a rack so I can put the gun on to fill.

[Taso1000]

So the manufactures seals did not solve my leak.     But I did turn everything on and made 1000 psi in the system.  When I bled the trap I didn't see any water or oil come out.  But honestly the Shoebox only ran for about 5 - 10 minutes.

I also let the low pressure compressor run for a couple hours and monitored the membrane drier purge outlet.  I did not see any water droplets in the vinyl tubing I configured to capture and guide the discharged water into a bottle.

I expected to see some water.  Maybe it's just too dry in the house right now.

Anyway, so far so good.  I ordered a replacement bowl for the leaking filter.  Hopefully that fixes the problem or else I will take that filter to firearm target practice.   

EDIT:  I forgot to say I stopped at 1000 psi, not the system or Shoebox.  It was just a test run for leaks further down the system.  I have read that since the Shoebox makes small amounts of pressure per cycle that it can not overcome even the smallest leak.

Thanks,

Taso