Will this be ok/safe for use with a SCBA tank???

[tracker1955]

Just thought I'd add this bit of information, the dive shop I use in Nashville uses the same scba adapter with a K valve yoke block for filling my 4500 psi tank. Those parts are rated for that much pressure, and as long as you're not filling beyond 3000 psi the old K valve yoke and hose are fine. If I ever get a gun that requires more than a 3000 psi fill I will for sure upgrade my hose and bleed valve yoke assy. Gotta stay safe, just didn't want anyone to think that what I am using now is unsafe.

[Old Corps]

Just thought I'd add this bit of information, the dive shop I use in Nashville uses the same scba adapter with a K valve yoke block for filling my 4500 psi tank. Those parts are rated for that much pressure, and as long as you're not filling beyond 3000 psi the old K valve yoke and hose are fine. If I ever get a gun that requires more than a 3000 psi fill I will for sure upgrade my hose and bleed valve yoke assy. Gotta stay safe, just didn't want anyone to think that what I am using now is unsafe.

Makes sense to me. I usually don't fill to more than 2800-2900 psi anyway. I don't even have a scba tank yet but if I did I might use that adapter. If it's safe with my 3K scuba tank it should be safe for fills up to 3K on guns. I use my AV 4500 carbon fiber tank for fills on my MRod & AT44 now. It has it's own adapter/hose.  The scuba is used with the Disco.

Ed

[TerryH]

Just thought I'd add this bit of information, the dive shop I use in Nashville uses the same scba adapter with a K valve yoke block for filling my 4500 psi tank. Those parts are rated for that much pressure, and as long as you're not filling beyond 3000 psi the old K valve yoke and hose are fine. If I ever get a gun that requires more than a 3000 psi fill I will for sure upgrade my hose and bleed valve yoke assy. Gotta stay safe, just didn't want anyone to think that what I am using now is unsafe.

Makes sense to me. I usually don't fill to more than 2800-2900 psi anyway. I don't even have a scba tank yet but if I did I might use that adapter. If it safe with my 3K scuba tank it should be safe for fills up to 3K on guns. I use my AV 4500 carbon fiber tank for fills on my MRod & AT44 now. It has it's own adapter/hose.  The scuba is used with the Disco.

Ed

Agree. Using the scuba yoke is fine but needs a real adapter vs the one that came with the tanks.

[Bishopsfriend]

Great discussion All.  I purchased the 45 minute SCBA tank and adapter from Noel also.  I have the hydro test figured out now and have spoken to my 4.5K psi paintball refiller about airing up the tank in the future.  He said he needs the Foster fitting to hook up to his equipment.  So that means I will be filling the SCBA tank through the scuba yoke fill station.  The gauge on my fill station is maxed out at 5,000 psi.  I will only filling 3 Hatsans to 2900 psi  Are there any concerns about filling the tank through the scuba yoke?  I hope this is clear as mud... Dave

[TerryH]

Great discussion All.  I purchased the 45 minute SCBA tank and adapter from Noel also.  I have the hydro test figured out now and have spoken to my 4.5K psi paintball refiller about airing up the tank in the future.  He said he needs the Foster fitting to hook up to his equipment.  So that means I will be filling the SCBA tank through the scuba yoke fill station.  The gauge on my fill station is maxed out at 5,000 psi.  I will only filling 3 Hatsans to 2900 psi  Are there any concerns about filling the tank through the scuba yoke?  I hope this is clear as mud... Dave

Not sure about what you got but I did put Noel's fitting and the Ebay SCUBA yoke fill station together today and there is no way that it's going to work. The o ring that he sent fits in the yoke...where there is not supposed to be an o ring. The sealing o ring is supposed to be on the block on the tank not on the yoke. The part on his fitting does not reach the o ring. It's also off center when tightened down. I had hoped to use this setup and then get something better down the road but now not sure what I'm going to do. 

Here are the options as I see them. Either buy a SCBA to SCUBA adapter from Joe @ Airtanksforsale.com for $89.00 plus shipping and use the SCUBA yoke fill station or buy a complete fill station with the SCBA hand tight fitting from Joe or the Stikman fill system from Roger @ Airtanksplus.com.  I've decided to get the Stikman. It's a cool system and a little cheaper. No funds at the moment so I guess I'll have tanks and no way to use them for a couple of weeks. 

As far as filling the tank at the paintball store I bought a hand tite and male foster from Airtanksplus.com to simplify the filling process since that will fit directly on the SCBA valve. There is a male to male foster that in theory could be attached to the SCUBA yoke hose in order to fill the tank but that's not a good idea.

[Taso1000]

Dave,

You could make the adapter he is asking about or North Shore Compressor & Machine has one ready made:

http://www.northshorecompressor.com/products/SCBA-to-Paintball-Rigid-Fill-Assembly.html

I don't know if you need it male or female or if you need the bleeder.

I need to make an adapter to fill my tank from my Shoebox.  Basically the same as the link but I don't need the bleeder.  It should run $57 plus shipping.  I would have ordered it today but they're out of the cga 347 hand tight adapter.   

Taso

EDIT:  I forgot to add, I already have a microbore extension hose.  Male on one side and female on the other.  Both are quick disconnects.

[tracker1955]

You don't want to try and fill a tank to 4500 psi through a 3000 psi K valve scuba yoke, that could be disastrous. Hopefully the people at the dive shop or paintball shop would never let that happen.

[Old Corps]

You don't want to try and fill a tank to 4500 psi through a 3000 psi K valve scuba yoke, that could be disastrous. Hopefully the people at the dive shop or paintball shop would never let that happen.

+1! Amen to that!

Ed

[TerryH]

What I bought was this...



To go with this....



I plan to use this for filling the tanks at the paintball store. Cost $40 for the setup. Joe sells the same sort of thing in an assembly for $89.

[Bishopsfriend]

What I bought was this...



To go with this....



I plan to use this for filling the tanks at the paintball store. Cost $40 for the setup. Joe sells the same sort of thing in an assembly for $89.

This is the solution I want to go with also to refill the SCBA tank at the paintball shop to 4.5K psi.  Can you tell where you order the parts for that $$?
Now, to fill my air tube on the Hatsans to 3000 psi, it appears I just add a bleeder valve to the center of this assy, and add a micro hose (FEMALE foster QUICK DISCONNECTS on BOTH ENDS (for the fill probe on the air tube on the AG. 
In the far future then I have the ability to cascade the system by adding a male foster fitting with male thds to the scuba fill station?
Bottom line it appears we agree the adapter from Noel to connect the SCBA valve to the scuba yoke is not going to work?
BTW, I added a signature to my profile, about time!   Dave

[TerryH]

Hi Dave. Those fittings are at airtanksplus.com.

[Bishopsfriend]

This the assy Noel sent with the SCBA tank...
I took it apart with a 13mm deep well socket and a 3/4" open end wrench.  I plan on using the current CGA347 hand tight SCBA adapter and add bleeder valve with 1/4" NPT fittings, a reducer from 1/4 to 1/8", and finally a male Foster fitting to connect to my AG or the compressor at the paintball shop. All the parts are rated at 6K psi.  That should air up the SCBA tank safely... Do you concur?  Please shout out if I'm off base on this !  Dave

[TerryH]

Yes but you won't need the bleeder. The paintball place will have that on their fill equipment. I took mine apart as well.  The inner part on mine looks a little wonky. That's why I decided just to get everything new.

[Old Corps]

Yes but you won't need the bleeder. The paintball place will have that on their fill equipment. I took mine apart as well.  The inner part on mine looks a little wonky. That's why I decided just to get everything new.

Wouldn't a bleeder be necessary to bleed off the air in the hill hose after filling the gun??? Am I missing something here......probably.

Ed

[TerryH]

Yes but you won't need the bleeder. The paintball place will have that on their fill equipment. I took mine apart as well.  The inner part on mine looks a little wonky. That's why I decided just to get everything new.

Wouldn't a bleeder be necessary to bleed off the air in the hill hose after filling the gun??? Am I missing something here......probably.

Ed

Hi Ed. This is for filling the tank at the paintball store not for filling the gun.

[Old Corps]

Ohhhhhh.   Gotcha! Fortunately, my dive shop has the equipment to fill scba tanks. When I asked he said "if it holds air, we can fill it".

Ed

[Bishopsfriend]

Hi guys, I edited my post to say I added the bleeder valve to my adapter so I can fill my Hatsans.  It should also work for my paintball store to fill the SCBA tank to 4.5K psi.  I still need a HPA hose though to air up the rifles.  All the parts I bought are 6K psi rated.  Dave

[Taso1000]

The Ninja Microbore hose extension is $45 on Amazon and other places. 



Taso

[Old Corps]

The Ninja Microbore hose extension is $45 on Amazon and other places. 



Taso

I put one of those on my Barska hand pump. Much more flexible and easier to hook up than the oem hose.

Ed

[Bishopsfriend]

I copied a picture of what I intend the final fill station to look like for my scba tank.  For now I'm thinking of a male Foster fitting on the end for refilling purposes.  But after thinking about it for a while, I might go with the picture then use a double ended male Foster fitting.  That way I just take the male to male fitting off to connect the hose to fill the AG.  We'll see when the parts arrive.  I'm headed to the hydro shop tomorrow to get the scba tank tested and filled.  Hope it works OK.  Never done this before.  Dave