The new Benjamin Wildfire

[Tweeter]

I'll be checking one of these out for sure.  The fourth time they are back in stock.   

[K.O.]

This is an interesting rifle.  The velocity stability of high pressure air makes way more sense in a semi-auto as compared to CO2.  Seems like a logical upgrade to the 1077.  Kudos to Crosman for bringing this to market.  There's nothing else like it at the price point.

I'm looking at the 1077 exploded parts diagram.  In terms of accuracy, the Crosman barrels can be quite good with a little cleanup work and the right pellet, but the plastic receiver and "tube over straw barrel" don't lend themselves to typical PCP precision.  Also, the trigger / semi-auto mechanism won't make it any easier but at this price point, it would be easy to justify buying one for popping rats or getting the kids in the game by shooting reactive targets in the back yard.  Particularly so for shooters who already have a pump or tank, perhaps not so much for first-time PCP buyers.

I will sure be watching closely to see how things develop.  If it can be made to drill 1/2" groups at 25 yards, I'll be getting one for the kids.

if it is anything like the 2100 just go to ace get a couple 1/2 nylon spacers, drill to 5/16, put on barrel wrap once with duct tape and you have barrel stabilizers... .5-.75 at 30 yards with a couple 2100s so far...

[Rayc384]

After opening a 1077, I think they would have to beef up the internals.

[Evo Shift]

Great find.
Thanks for posting.
This might be a nice addition to my PROD for when I want to invite friends to come shoot with me.

Looking forward to what else is coming at Shot Show.
I'm hoping for an affordable bullpup that's a semi-auto in .22 or .25

[StevenG]

I have to have one of these!

[45Bravo]

This is an interesting rifle.  The velocity stability of high pressure air makes way more sense in a semi-auto as compared to CO2.  Seems like a logical upgrade to the 1077.  Kudos to Crosman for bringing this to market.  There's nothing else like it at the price point.

I'm looking at the 1077 exploded parts diagram.  In terms of accuracy, the Crosman barrels can be quite good with a little cleanup work and the right pellet, but the plastic receiver and "tube over straw barrel" don't lend themselves to typical PCP precision.  Also, the trigger / semi-auto mechanism won't make it any easier but at this price point, it would be easy to justify buying one for popping rats or getting the kids in the game by shooting reactive targets in the back yard.  Particularly so for shooters who already have a pump or tank, perhaps not so much for first-time PCP buyers.

I will sure be watching closely to see how things develop.  If it can be made to drill 1/2" groups at 25 yards, I'll be getting one for the kids.

Jason, I think for the money, it will be popular for new to pcp people.
Or the 1022 rimfire guys wanting to get in some cheap back yard plinking.

It has the ergonomics of a 1022, (but a double action trigger)
I have owned a 1077, and repaired one for a friend.
I liked them for what they are. But didn't like the cool down with the co2.

You take a $140 rifle, and a $100 pump $240 gets you into the game.

With 60 shots I figure 60-90 ish pumps to top it off, (disco sized tube). That's 1-2 pumps per shot.
I like that number for new shooters, and with a 2000 psi fill, younger shooters can top it off them selves.

Or 15-17 fills off of a guppy bottle..

[CraigH]

Benjamin Wildfire is now on "pre-order" at PyramydAir.

[TerryH]

Benjamin Wildfire is now on "pre-order" at PyramydAir.

And it says availability is 2/24.

[Djbriez]

Benjamin Wildfire is now on "pre-order" at PyramydAir.

Yep...I saw it...and I did it......(Darn it...thats 2 new guns in 2 weeks)

DJ

[Bishopsfriend]

Here are the specs from PA site for the Wildfire...
Caliber   0.177" (4.5mm)
Max Velocity   800 fps
Loudness   3-Medium
Barrel Length   20.39"
Overall Length   36.88"
Shot Capacity   12
Barrel   Rifled
Front Sight   Fiber Optic
Rear Sight   Adjustable
Scopeable   11mm dovetail
Trigger   Single-stage
Buttplate   Plastic
Suggested for   Plinking & target practice
Action   Semiautomatic
Safety   Manual
Powerplant   Pre-charged pneumatic
Function   Repeater
Trigger Action   Double-Action
Max Shots per Fill   60
Body Type   Rifle
Fixed/adj. power   Fixed
Weight   3.69 lbs

[birdmove]

    I've had my 1077 for 8-9 years, and it still shoots. The trigger is not good, nor is there much you can do with it from what I've read. It's a really good looking gun and has a good feel to it.  I put one of the delrin barrel supports in mine. Accuracy is not great. Tom Gaylord has an older one he has reviewed. His is quite accurate to 25 yards as I recall. All he could do with his trigger is remove the  box that cantains most of the firing mechanism, and sit there and watch tv while cycling it over and over again. He said his smoothed out. This is the only airgun I have that has as it's favorite pellet, the Crosman hollow point. If this uses the sam 12 shot magazine as the 1077, you will be li ityed by what pellets it feeds, and what pellets fit the holes in the magazine properly. Some brands/types of pellets may be too loose of a fit into the mag, and might slide forward or back jamming the magazine from turning. The Crosmans have a perfect fit in mine.  When I saw this aigun I was certainly interested. But, if it uses the same trigger mechanism as the 1077, and is made of plastic, I will pass. I'd rather have a Maximus single shot.

    My question is, with a fill of 2000 psi, will a hand pump work on it then?

    Oh, and I see it has the lever on the right side of the receiver. That is for if and when you have a pellet move in the magazine and jam the mechanism, you move that lever, which moves the barrel forward so you can get that pellet out. Yeah, it looks like it's all 1077 except for the air tank.

[CraigH]

Easy to pump up with a hand pump.  Same pressure as Maximus (which I have) and Discovery.

[birdmove]

  Thanks! I've never owned a pcp, and would not buy one that can't be pumped up with a hand air pump.  I'll wait to read the reviews of this 1077/pcp.

[Yarp]

Pyramyd is accepting preorders.
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/benjamin-wildfire-pcp-air-rifle?m=4304;trk_contact=36OMN46LBHGGKMRJ52OIOGP7RS&utm_source=Listrak&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=http%3a%2f%2fwww.pyramydair.com%2fs%2fm%2fBenjamin_Wildfire_PCP_Air_Rifle%2f4304&utm_campaign=Exclusive+SHOT+Pre-order%3a+Crosman+and+Remington

[nervoustrigger]

if it is anything like the 2100 just go to ace get a couple 1/2 nylon spacers, drill to 5/16, put on barrel wrap once with duct tape and you have barrel stabilizers... .5-.75 at 30 yards with a couple 2100s so far...

Kirby, thanks for the comments.  I hope it's that simple.  My track record with guns having plastic receivers doesn't give me a great deal of confidence.  A bushing to support the barrel in the shroud is a good thing (a la Daisy 880) but often the shroud lacks adequate registration to the receiver which leads to a wandering POI.   It's hard to keep realistic accuracy expectations for a rifle like this when a QB79 with a Ninja bottle shoots like a laser.  Just have to keep telling myself the repeater feature solidifies its place as a fun gun.

[45Bravo]

I see it as the cliche "it is what it is."
If it is like the last 1077 I worked over for a friend,
It won't be a tack driver at 50 yards,
It won't have a 1 lb trigger that breaks like a glass rod.

It will be reasonably accurate, (enough for pesting at reasonable ranges, and hitting the paddles on the crosman resetting squirrel target at 25 yards, and rolling tin cans out to 40-50 yards
The triggers are not that bad once you wear them in and get used to it.

The plinkability of the gun is its best selling point.

They will make millions with it..

[Joekrooz]

The estimated in stock date is 2/24/2017, so I guess we should see them sometime in August 

[birdmove]

   And, it's by Hard Air Magazine.

      I was going to put the web address here, but I don't want to make anyone upset. This is a very interesting new PCP air rifle. Since I already own a 1077, I've been wanting to read any reviews of this.

[birdmove]

    And now Tom Gaylord starts his review on the Wildfire.

    https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/

[Privateer]

I'll be ordering one next week.
I have a couple of 1077's so I'm not a newbe on the tech.
For the price and what it could do is right in line for me at this point.