Feinwerkbau 800 Basic Field Target

[WindSurgeon]

Anyone have any experience with this gun and know what its accuracy is? I would like to shoot it off a bench with a front rest and rear bag at up to 50 yards in an indoor range.

[Motorhead]

FWB 800 .... Thoroughbred Butt to Barrel  !
Not a powerhouse, but very accurate within respectable range for caliber and speed it shoots.

50 yards ... sure, but you better have pellet it likes and be on your game !!  That distance ain't easy in .177 at 12 ft lbs power.

[Yogi]

I understand the FWB 800 comes in 3 different power levels, 8 joule, 16 joule and 20 joule.
Which one do you have?

-Y

[T-Higgs]

A friend of mine has the 800 field target basic version. Shooting in the 12fpe range. He uses it for ten meter shoots and silhouette comp. it is amazingly accurate! After our silhouette shoots, we sometimes shoot a round of 30 yard bench. Best score to date was with his rifle(don't remember score). I was spotting for him when a fly landed on his target. I pointed it out and he quickly dispatched the fly with one shot.
As a side, the FWB rifles have a distinct poppy sound when fired.

Higgs

[WindSurgeon]

I understand the FWB 800 comes in 3 different power levels, 8 joule, 16 joule and 20 joule.
Which one do you have?

-Y

The one I am looking at has a maximum velocity of 825 fps and 12 ft/lb energy at the muzzle.  I think it would be the 16 Joule wouldn't it?

[WindSurgeon]

FWB 800 .... Thoroughbred Butt to Barrel  !
Not a powerhouse, but very accurate within respectable range for caliber and speed it shoots.

50 yards ... sure, but you better have pellet it likes and be on your game !!  That distance ain't easy in .177 at 12 ft lbs power.

What about 35 yards on an indoor range?

[gonzav]

I understand the FWB 800 comes in 3 different power levels, 8 joule, 16 joule and 20 joule.
Which one do you have?

-Y

The one I am looking at has a maximum velocity of 825 fps and 12 ft/lb energy at the muzzle.  I think it would be the 16 Joule wouldn't it?

Yes. You are correct.
12 fpe = 802 fps with 8.4 grain pellet or 827 fps with 7.9 grain pellet

The FWB 800 Basic FT is based on the 10M air rifle version. The weak spot for me is the cantilevered scope mount. I would be very careful not to drop the rifle on the scope and break the mount off the short barrel rail.

For the a few hundred dollars less from Krale you can get a Steyr LG 110 HFT with a wood stock  for €1508.26 ($1589.12 roughly).

[Motorhead]

FWB 800 .... Thoroughbred Butt to Barrel  !
Not a powerhouse, but very accurate within respectable range for caliber and speed it shoots.

50 yards ... sure, but you better have pellet it likes and be on your game !!  That distance ain't easy in .177 at 12 ft lbs power.

What about 35 yards on an indoor range?

That would be CLOSE to what we shoot in 30m ( * Actually 25 meters ) benchrest at Light Varmint class ..... Indoors no problem, outdoors HOWS YOUR wind doping skills 


I would look up RAW and get a BM or TM-1000 at 19 Ft Lbs if you wish to stretch the distances ....
OR, have Martin hook you up the hammer / springs to do BOTH a 12# & 19# tune set up.

[WindSurgeon]

FWB 800 .... Thoroughbred Butt to Barrel  !
Not a powerhouse, but very accurate within respectable range for caliber and speed it shoots.

50 yards ... sure, but you better have pellet it likes and be on your game !!  That distance ain't easy in .177 at 12 ft lbs power.

What about 35 yards on an indoor range?

Scott, I cheat by using wind flags.  Lol...

That would be CLOSE to what we shoot in 30m benchrest at Light Varmint class ..... Indoors no problem, outdoors HOWS YOUR wind doping skills 


I would look up RAW and get a BM or TM-1000 at 19 Ft Lbs if you wish to stretch the distances ....
OR, have Martin hook you up the hammer / springs to do BOTH a 12# & 19# tune set up.

[Grover]

If they weren't $2K+,  I would consider one.  You had me at 12fpe. I'm thinkin' ultimate suburban backyard windowsill squirrel sniper.

Maybe someday.

[Jason_Garvin]

I read briefly on these in the past, if I knew how to pump up a puffer I would maybe consider one someday.  The field target model I thought was pushing  8.64 grain pellet around 880 fps.  Could you imagine that with a scope......lol.....squirrel wouldn't have a chance.

Jason G

[Motorhead]

I read briefly on these in the past, if I knew how to pump up a puffer I would maybe consider one someday.  The field target model I thought was pushing  8.64 grain pellet around 880 fps.  Could you imagine that with a scope......lol.....squirrel wouldn't have a chance.

Jason G

Such accuracy does not JUST belong to guns of this style ...
Many .177 cal PCP's run in that 12 -16 ft range tossing mid 8 grain lead 800-900 fps with pin point accuracy.

Personal Yard / Squirrel blaster is a BSA Scorpion in .177 shooting JSB 8.4's @ 880 fps.
Inside @40 yards no yard critter is safe ... yes it too is That Accurate.

[Grover]

My crusty AR2078 has me loving the fit and feel of a match style stock.  Wish more mid range rifles had them

[Fred J]

I got to shoot a TM-1000 last week at our local air gun club. I could not believe the accuracy: Consistent 1/4" 5 shot holes at 30 yards. I can't do this with lesser PCPs.

[chuckinohio]

Anyone have any experience with this gun and know what its accuracy is? I would like to shoot it off a bench with a front rest and rear bag at up to 50 yards in an indoor range.

  I have the FT version and the 10M version of the 800 basic, and the accuracy is the same between the two variants, quite literally the same.

  Running 8.64 FTT pellets in the FT version with a Falcon 10-50X60 on it, if I miss it is entirely my fault. Assuming that all the stars are aligned, and the dead chickens have been waved properly, the rifle is capable of mind boggling accuracy. The problem that I run into is being able to hold it on the KZ in position............... 

  The only real gripe with the set up is using the supplied FWB mount and a scope with a big Objective, the rig is somewhat top heavy in a bagged set up on the bench and lends itself to some wobble. Using a front rest and a wedge adaptor, ala full benchrest style, there is no missing with the rig. The stock really needs a plate or benchrest adaptor to sit stable in the rest. The slope of the fore end lends itself to sliding fore and aft pretty easily, which went away when I used a front wedge adaptor.

  The trigger is a thing of beauty once you get used to it and can fiddle it to where you like. Out of the box, mine had the first stage almost perfectly where I like it LOP wise, but the second stage was slightly vague on the break. After maybe 5 minutes of fettling, perfection!

  The FWB cantilever mount attaches to grooves on the barrel shroud, negating any concern with flex between receiver and mounts, and is plenty secure enough that I have not noticed any wandering zero issues. You would have to make a deliberate try to break the mount off of the barrel shroud dovetail, and I think that your scope would be damaged beyond use before the mount would come loose 

  The accuracy at 50 yards would be dependent on, you being able to hold the rifle on target, proper pellets, trigger control, and wind. Shooting indoors you could negate the wind factor, and there is no reason I can see that you could not clean a card and be down to X count being the deciding factor.

[WindSurgeon]

Sounds like the rifle will hold its own if you do your part?

[chuckinohio]

Sounds like the rifle will hold its own if you do your part?

  Absolutely, it will hold its own and then some.

  Put in a little time pellet testing, and familiarizing yourself with the rifle, and you will have a contender.

  Neither version of the 800 basic that I have could be considered to be pellet fussy, but they do seem to favor H&N pellets in the FT model, and Meisterkugeln in the 10M version. They gave me the best and most consistent results.

[straightshooter]

If I ever move up to PCP HFT, the FWB 800 Basic would be my first choice.