FX Royale 400 or AAS 510

[Scalf]

Just to update i haven't  had much time to shoot  but i am still having trouble  with lead in the barrel.  I plan to remove barrel and polish it with bore paste but that is a few weeks away. Thanks to all.

[robertr]

As long as the pellet fly's as true to 100 as it does to 50 a sub 1' group should be doable.

Only in dead calm. 0 wind. Do you have any idea how uncommon that is? The slightest puff of wind on an 885 FPS 18 grain jsb 100 yards down range can easily move/deflect poi 1 inch, or more,  to the outside of an otherwise nice grouping. Result : Instead of sub MOA you end up with ,,,,,,not even MOA.

How do I know this, I did it with my Scorpion SE. 3/16" ctc at fifty yards and 3/4" at 100 yards. 5 shot groups

[Wildcatter]

Don't dignify it, bro.  Just report to moderator.

[Sfttailrdr46]

Don't dignify it, bro.  Just report to moderator.

Been done and handled !!! should not happen again

[TunedAccuracy]

Quigly,how many forums have you been banned from for making ugly post like that. Maybe u don't  understand the purpose of this forum. Post like yours serves no purpose.

Are you serious? Threatening ban?
Look, you plainly said you didn't have a steady rest, yet were testing accuracy of an airgun.
I'm thinking more along the lines that there is no way you can test absolute accuracy without a solid rest.
In light of this, It certainly cannot be determined that you have a defective gun. Yet you seem to be sure that your FX is defective , and/or has a bad barrel.
It's an observation, based on your own words. That's all it is.

[ezman604]

He has a valid point but the presentation may be lacking. Let's keep it peaceful and friendly here!!!
And remember to respect opinions and thoughts of others. RESPECTFULLY!!!!
Enough said....
Now back to airgunning.

[Sfttailrdr46]

Quigly,how many forums have you been banned from for making ugly post like that. Maybe u don't  understand the purpose of this forum. Post like yours serves no purpose.

Are you serious? Threatening ban?
Look, you plainly said you didn't have a steady rest, yet were testing accuracy of an airgun.
I'm thinking more along the lines that there is no way you can test absolute accuracy without a solid rest.
In light of this, It certainly cannot be determined that you have a defective gun. Yet you seem to be sure that your FX is defective , and/or has a bad barrel.
It's an observation, based on your own words. That's all it is.

First calm down. Nobody threatened to ban you. As I have said many times before to others this gate and others that I am responsible for will remain cordial or I will lock the thread and that is not my first choice . So please keep it cordial or I will lock the thread .

[TunedAccuracy]

I may have been lacking in the presentation , as ezman has said.
I supposed the " spectacles" comment could have been left out.
I'm all good over here. This is a nice airgun forum, and the members seem pretty cool.
Next time around I'll focus on, kinder, more gentle presentation.

[Scalf]

Thanks TunedAccuracy.  All is well with me. Will post results after polishing barrel.

[Sfttailrdr46]

  Thank you gentleman

[TunedAccuracy]

Thanks TunedAccuracy.  All is well with me. Will post results after polishing barrel.

I think a good pair of sand bags would be beneficial. I have never had to polish an FX  smooth twist or Lothar walter barrel.
My 15 year old Tarantula .22 will make .25 groups or less, under premium conditions,  like you were talking about.
My FX .30 Boss with the smooth twist barrel ..........well..........here are a couple of targets/Styrofoam cups with little dots as targets.
These are 10 shot groups on each cup. The conditions were absolutely perfect and as you can see here, I was tuning my scope to utter perfection.

One .30 caliber hole. It will do this every time under premium conditions. This is one of the reasons I don't think anything is wrong with your barrel.

[Wildcatter]

Quigly, that last, very helpful...this is a golden rule forum.   We don't judge, we try to help.  I am refreshed by your understanding.   Sand bags are a great idea and more in line with how we treat fellow airgunners.

[GoneShootn]

Owned two FX rifles .... "owned" & no longer do.
Too fussy, too inconsistent & pellet picky.

Interesting! Did they both have the "smooth-twist" barrels?

[GoneShootn]

The FX 400 got replaced with a RAW TM-1000
The FX T12 Whisper with a BSA Scorpion

Much nicer & better handling & shooting guns ... IMO

What do you think about the Scorpion from an ease of repair/modding standpoint?

[Scalf]

TunedAccuracy. I will figure out how to post pictures of groups when I start shooting in a couple of weeks. When the Fx500 was new it was very accurate.  I mean at 25 yds one hole barely bigger than one bullet. Then after 250 shots .3 or bigger groups at 25. The barrel was full of lead. Something wrong or it would not do this. It wasn't little flakes of lead it was big pieces. Thats not right. This is a problem even if you ignore the group size. I also  lost 30 fps. I chronographed  it last week. Was about 905fps brand new and then went to about 875. Turned hammer spring in and got that velocity back. Chronographed  2 shots and both were 918fps. 25.39 g pellets. Not worried  about that. My HM1000X also lost velocity  after several hundred  shots. Just cranked in hammer spring. Does  this explain my concern better?
 

[GoneShootn]

TunedAccuracy. I will figure out how to post pictures of groups when I start shooting in a couple of weeks. When the Fx500 was new it was very accurate.  I mean at 25 yds one hole barely bigger than one bullet. Then after 250 shots .3 or bigger groups at 25. The barrel was full of lead. Something wrong or it would not do this. It wasn't little flakes of lead it was big pieces. Thats not right. This is a problem even if you ignore the group size. I also  lost 30 fps. I chronographed  it last week. Was about 905fps brand new and then went to about 875. Turned hammer spring in and got that velocity back. Chronographed  2 shots and both were 918fps. 25.39 g pellets. Not worried  about that. My HM1000X also lost velocity  after several hundred  shots. Just cranked in hammer spring. Does  this explain my concern better?

I'm sorry you are having these difficulties, but I really appreciate your posting your experience. Hope you get it all sorted out to your satisfaction. I think I have moved into the BSA camp for long guns and the Taipan Mutant camp for bullpups, at least as of today.

[farmerjoe99]

I'm sorry you are having these difficulties, but I really appreciate your posting your experience. Hope you get it all sorted out to your satisfaction. I think I have moved into the BSA camp for long guns and the Taipan Mutant camp for bullpups, at least as of today.

I don't think you can go wrong there, I've been blown away with the accuracy of my BSA.

[Scalf]

I think  the general consensus is the barrel is the dominant factor for accuracy.  I can go that route if needed.  But for now just have to wait. I will have plenty of time after Feb. A new barrel  is not that expensive.