Author Topic: FX Royale 400 or AAS 510 (Read 17264 times))

Scalf · « **Reply #60 on:** September 24, 2016, 03:53:59 PM »

You very well may be right about cleaning the barrel. I didn't scrub. Just patches and 2 patches with about 2 drops of bore cleaner. Used crown saver pull through with no metal. But the accuracy when away after about 250 pellets and no cleaning. It doesn't sound possible that this could happen but it did. I did have two tins but they were just a like. If it is so picky that i have to buy a bunch of tins and pick out the good ones i would have a fortune in pellet. Don't need a gun liked that. I can see getting a tin that is less accurate but double the size groups seems extreme. They make WAR guns about 100 miles from Nashville and that is where i will be untill the middle of Jan. Going to check them out Monday.

Scalf · « **Reply #61 on:** September 24, 2016, 04:01:47 PM »

Using sand bags and a very stable bench that i made. Did go to 25 and the groups were double the size. 50 yard were a little over double. 5 shot groups are still one hole but a bigger hole than they were at first. I will sell it but .25 to.4 is what it shoots now at 25. My Marauder 22 will do better than the fx at 25 yds.

Dairyboy · « **Reply #62 on:** September 24, 2016, 04:30:10 PM »

I know alot of people say not.too but I've been seeing people having problems and then they clean the rifling part at the end very good and then accuracy is back. Always something to try

Scalf · « **Reply #63 on:** September 24, 2016, 05:10:52 PM »

I will get more aggressive on cleaning and see what happens and probably a new scope. I like 24 power because u can be precise on your aim n point.

mwbutcher · « **Reply #64 on:** September 25, 2016, 09:44:20 PM »

Quote from: Scalf on September 23, 2016, 08:41:41 PM

After 250 pellets down the barrel the size of the group doubled in size. Cleaned barrel but didn't help. It shot great at first. What is going on with FX guns. Other people are having accuracy problems also. The test group that came with gun was slightly larger than the pellet itself. 50 yard 5 shot groups were all .26 inch to .4 inch the first night that i shot the gun. Now it shoots .6 to 1.25 inch. Thats awfull. What is going on? I would buy another one from AOA but after 2 bad ones maybe i should try one from some place else.

With mybRoyale 400 .22 I'm at 500 rounds just finished the tin. I can shoot a playing card in half and split tic tacs in half at 20 yards. If anything, it's getting better. I'm using JSB 18.13 with remarkable success. Hope you get it worked out. Make sure your breech O-ring is still there after cleaning the barrel. My dealer hasn't cleaned his barrel in 4 years and has no immediate plans to do so. I'm going that route and so far so good. I'll start a new thread when I hit 2000 rounds and report back a on accuracy. Again best of luck with your gun.

Scalf · « **Reply #65 on:** September 25, 2016, 09:54:50 PM »

I don't know when i will get to work with it because i am out of town and very busy. Don't have a place to shoot yet but there are some shooting ranges around here that i will call about. I will try it as so as i have the time. If it rains one day that may give me a chance to shoot some. The gun was shooting great at first. I will post results as soon as i get to shoot.

PlanB · « **Reply #66 on:** September 26, 2016, 11:49:10 AM »

i have fx's and really like them but it is amazeing how many new Fx's need to be fixed. If you can refrain from telling aoa what you think, they will probably do you a better job sooner. My 400 didnt start shooting its best untill after about 1500 shots. i cant tell you how much of that was me. I dont know what has happened but now it only shoots 5.54 head good. i came in 4th at ebr 25 meter last year with 5.52's now it wont shoot um. im gona try a barrel after the match this year. i shoots the 5.54's very well but they are a little hard for me to find.
i know you will enjoy the R400 when they get it right.

PlanB · « **Reply #67 on:** September 26, 2016, 11:54:06 AM »

did you try a breech oring before sending it back, a good test for that is to put a napkin over the breech and magazine and shoot. the paper should not blow.

mr.grimm · « **Reply #68 on:** September 26, 2016, 01:36:01 PM »

I PUT A SMOOTH TWIST ON MY MK1 GLADIATOR (CAME WITH A LOTHER WALTHER ) IT WAS ACCURRATE AT FIRST THEN I READ AN ARTICLE ON POLISHING THE BORE AND TRIED IT MADE AN ACCURATE GUN INTO A EVEN MORE ACCURATE GUN AND LESS PELLET FUSSY. IT NOW SHOOTS H&N BARRACUDA MATCH PELLETS MORE ACCURATE THAN JSB'S AT 30 YARDS. ALSO NOW SHOOTS H&N FIELS TARGET TROPHY'S FAIRL WELL. CROSSMAN PREMIER HOLLOW POINTS ARENT THAT BAD EITHER ON LOW AT 30 YARDS. HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO TRY ANY OF THESE AT LONGER RANG. IT STILL SHOOTS JSB GREAT. ANYWAY MIGHT TRY POLISHING THE BORE. I AM DEBATING ON GIVING MINE ALITTLE MORE POLISHING.THE ARTICLE I READ WAS ON AIRGUN NATION.

Scalf · « **Reply #69 on:** September 26, 2016, 03:00:19 PM »

Breech oring is still in and sounds ok when fired with no pellet. I need to shoot it after i cleaned the barrel to see if it helped before I make my next move. The barrel may be a little rough because i got some lead out of the barrel. Actually it was real easy to see the lead on the patch. The barrel should not have any lead in it after 250 pellets.

mwbutcher · « **Reply #70 on:** September 26, 2016, 09:00:21 PM »

Quote from: PlanB on September 26, 2016, 11:49:10 AM

i have fx's and really like them but it is amazeing how many new Fx's need to be fixed. If you can refrain from telling aoa what you think, they will probably do you a better job sooner. My 400 didnt start shooting its best untill after about 1500 shots. i cant tell you how much of that was me. I dont know what has happened but now it only shoots 5.54 head good. i came in 4th at ebr 25 meter last year with 5.52's now it wont shoot um. im gona try a barrel after the match this year. i shoots the 5.54's very well but they are a little hard for me to find.
i know you will enjoy the R400 when they get it right.

Are you using JSB or another brand and, what are you using for sizing the heads? I've been weighing and using the pellet sorter but it doesn't size just helps me see bad pellets easier.

Scalf · « **Reply #71 on:** September 26, 2016, 10:33:07 PM »

Only used JSB 25 grain. Not trying to sort pellets in any way. It shot great not doing any sorting at all at first. I am hoping the lead that i got out of the barrel brings back accuracy and if it does i will address the lead accumulating in the barrel. Maybe polish the barrel? I am sure someone will know the fix. My 22 Marauder leads up after 100 shots or so. Clean it and accuracy is back. Dont really know how much lead in barrel it take to kill accuracy. I know in my Marauder the first patch has a considerable amount of lead on it. Will a small amount of lead in barrel affect accuracy? What really causes lead in barrel?

Motorhead · « **Reply #72 on:** September 27, 2016, 02:15:46 AM »

Owned two FX rifles .... "owned" & no longer do.
Too fussy, too inconsistent & pellet picky.

mwbutcher · « **Reply #73 on:** September 27, 2016, 10:33:57 AM »

Quote from: Motorhead on September 27, 2016, 02:15:46 AM

Owned two FX rifles .... "owned" & no longer do.
Too fussy, too inconsistent & pellet picky.

What did you end up with to replace them?

Scalf · « **Reply #74 on:** September 27, 2016, 11:45:32 AM »

FX seems to have problems and Marauder 22 have bad barrels. It seems they all have a few problems. What brand d o u buy?

Motorhead · « **Reply #75 on:** September 27, 2016, 01:03:19 PM »

Quote from: mwbutcher on September 27, 2016, 10:33:57 AM

Quote from: Motorhead on September 27, 2016, 02:15:46 AM
Owned two FX rifles .... "owned" & no longer do.
Too fussy, too inconsistent & pellet picky.

What did you end up with to replace them?

The FX 400 got replaced with a RAW TM-1000
The FX T12 Whisper with a BSA Scorpion

Much nicer & better handling & shooting guns ... IMO

Scalf · « **Reply #76 on:** September 27, 2016, 01:09:45 PM »

I was thinking about the RAW. What cal did you get? What size groups does it shoot at 50 yds? I know they have plenty of energy. They build them about 100 miles from where i am staying for most of the winter.

Motorhead · « **Reply #77 on:** September 27, 2016, 01:42:04 PM »

Quote from: Scalf on September 27, 2016, 01:09:45 PM

I was thinking about the RAW. What cal did you get? What size groups does it shoot at 50 yds? I know they have plenty of energy. They build them about 100 miles from where i am staying for most of the winter.

Ordered the RAW TM-1000 from Martin as a special build using a Bottle & Regulated in .177 caliber.
Have sense fitted both .20 & .22 barrels now having it 3 caliber capable.

Scalf · « **Reply #78 on:** September 27, 2016, 03:59:10 PM »

I talked to Martin at RAW and i ask him what i could expect on group size and he said 1/2 to 3/4 inch groups at 50 yds. 1/2 inch is ok but 3/4 inch is not very good. I was ready to get one but i was expecting something like .3 to .5 inch with no wind
Anybody have first hand experience on what the 25 cal RAW will shoot? Seems if they wining benchrest matches they would have to shoot better than what i was told.

Motorhead · « **Reply #79 on:** September 27, 2016, 04:12:28 PM »

Quote from: Scalf on September 27, 2016, 03:59:10 PM

I talked to Martin at RAW and i ask him what i could expect on group size and he said 1/2 to 3/4 inch groups at 50 yds. 1/2 inch is ok but 3/4 inch is not very good. I was ready to get one but i was expecting something like .3 to .5 inch with no wind
Anybody have first hand experience on what the 25 cal RAW will shoot? Seems if they wining benchrest matches they would have to shoot better than what i was told.

Martin has little choice but state conservative accuracy ... to state what there capable of only set him up for distress when customers can't achieve it and think it is there gun

Barrel & pellet being in harmony is KEY !! to MOA or greater accuracy and when you as a manufacture have no control over this you can't honestly make claims on accuracy done by the few who spend the time to find the most accurate combo of pellet/barrel, leaving you to quote a more realistic average one could expect shooting most pellets.

JMO ....

BTW, my RAW TM-1000 with either the .177 or .22 barrels fitted BOTH shoot SUB MOA with good pellets and no wind.

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FX Royale 400 or AAS 510

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