How many gas ram/nitro piston owners use the artillery hold?

[azphil]

On my Benji Trail NP I use both the artillery hold (palm flat and my fingers pointed outward toward the target) and sometimes a medium - loose hold.  Both seem to work OK but I prefer the AH so end up using it more.
The reason I use the AH with my palm flat and fingers outward is that it provides a much less cushioned support as opposed to resting the gun with your hand curved as shown in videos and such.  Take your hand and look at it in both positions I mentioned and you'll see what I mean.

[Rico14]

Artillery hold works for me on my Trail NP

[ericclarkbandit]

My Venom likes to be held but not strangled.  My forearm grip is right at the front of the curve in the stock.  I have to wrap hand around stock with medium (comfortable) grip.  The stock is snug to my shoulder but not pressed.  With this I can shoot 1/2 - 3/4" groups off hand at 25 yds.  Also have noticed that if I move my trigger hand around on the grip it changes things.  I try to make sure that my Pinky finger is at the bottom of the pistol grip.  By using these reference points I am able to consistently shoot well from session to session.

Mine doesn't like it if I have an open grip on the forearm or lay it on anything.  Consistency goes right out the window.

I hold my Titans the same way and they perform just as good.

[Snaab9-2]

well my experience with these type of rifles is, because I had an NPSS as well and these are all basically the same gun I experienced exactly what you are talking about and if they are that hold sensitive I don't want another one! and by the way what cal is this gun you have? it was my experience that the .177cal gun in this forum was evry hold sensitive and if this is the case thats a no=no for me! cause it shot like a shot gun!

I have a long post over in the Crosman gate (still active) about my bad luck with the NPSS in 177.  It doesn't shoot well with any hold I tried.  It shot best with an artillery (or with it laying on a sawhorse with a cloth under it) hold but it didn't shoot good with any hold.  

[sawtoothscream]

mine seemw to hate every hold out there and picks and chooses what days it wants to shoot well.  gun has me pulling my hair out