Air Force Texan hunting accuracy

[Randbo]

I have tried about a dozen different  bullets in my Texan and the best I have found is a 340 gr. cast from a Lyman hollow point mold, I am going to try to post the picture of the groups I shot today at 50, 75, and a 100 yds. the velocity is about 800 fps. what is every ones thoughts on this for a deer bullet and the accuracy? [the groups were .843 at 50 yds.  .866 at 75 yds. and 2.359 at 100 yds. ctc.]

[aceflier]

Dead deer inside 100yds. 2 inch is in the lungs if not heart.

[nielsenammo]

I have found the heaviest bullets, like 400 grain shoot the best in my gun or the 168 grain EPP slug.  I do sell the EPP which is what I shoot out of mine but I have not brought the 400 grains to my site.  Round ball, although not a great hunting round, is a great target practice round.

[Tofazfou]

You got yourself a 100 yard deer gun MAX!  75 yards FO SHO and with that bullet, 75 yards would be my max!  I just like putting the bullet where i aim is all

[UCChris]

Interesting how the 50 and 75 yard groups are nearly identical when considering factors such as wind, fps spread, and weight differences in the projectile. Yet the group grew by 272% in the 25 yards between 75 and 100 yards...

[Randbo]

I have tried the 168 EPP and the round balls, ok groups at 50 yds. but terrible at 100 yds. I have a mold for some 470 gr. but not as accurate as the 340 gr in my rifle. Some of the bullets I have tried you might get a good group on occasion but get a lot of flyer's, with the 340 I don't get the flyer's it is the most consistent bullet I have found.                                       

[Gut2Fish]

Have you been sizing the bullets or shooting them as they drop?

I've got a neat mold in .457 that I'd send you a few slugs to try if you want. Off the top of my head can't remember the lyman mold #, might be 457193. At any rate it's been modified/machined to 2/3 the length. Good meplat and drops about 260 grain. PM me if you want to try them. I'd bought a few molds in this caliber when still deciding which big bore I wanted. I don't have a sizer in .457 so would be as dropped.

BTW, I'd have no hesitation taking a 100 yard shot with that grouping if the deer was broad side. Anything other than a perfect set up shot it would have to be 75 or less yards.

[kbstingwing]

I like the EPP'S and Round ball, they work good for me, also the JSB's.

[Jeremy1982]

your good at 100 with no prob.I have the same mold although I had the HP cavity  enlarged  on mine to a lil over a quarter inch.Ive killed deer at 100 with it threw my extreme 457 which is getting only 40 fps faster.Actually I shot a doe year before last at 103 yards and dropped her on the spot with a shoulder shot.same as you..its the best grouping bullet Ive found in my extreme.The Gould HP right?

[Randbo]

your good at 100 with no prob.I have the same mold although I had the HP cavity  enlarged  on mine to a lil over a quarter inch.Ive killed deer at 100 with it threw my extreme 457 which is getting only 40 fps faster.Actually I shot a doe year before last at 103 yards and dropped her on the spot with a shoulder shot.same as you..its the best grouping bullet Ive found in my extreme.The Gould HP right?

Yes correct it is the Gould HP mold, what would a average group out of your Extreme be at 100 yds.?                                                                                                                                                   

[Jeremy1982]

The extreme is a little different from the Texan in shot count.I get 2 shots within 1.75 inch at 100 yards .If you teether then maybe a little less but I cant do that in the woods so i never practice that way.Its set up for 2 shots..not really a group.If I were you I would do the same..shoot some groups with one or two shots and see how that groups on the target or just try 1 shot at 3000 psi,then refill back to 3000 psi.I know the gun is set to produce 3-4 shots and I have some that will do the same but in real life event the first shot is all your gonna need and if it hits the mark every time at 3000 psi then you will know your range.last year I did take 2 bucks the same morn with the 457 but outside of that Ive never had to fire the gun twice on the same hunt.That 330 gr bullet moving around 800 fps will rock them.You will see!My first year hunting deer with air rifles was comical!!I say that cause my view of their ability was so off.I did gel tests,accuracy tests,every test you could think of,I prob let 4 nice bucks walk that 1st week not thinking they were giving me a suitable shot.I was looking for a quartering away to avoid bone and come behind the ribs into the lungs and heart!after I got a buck and a doe at the end of the season,the next year I was shooting 75-80 yards,breaking shoulder, and dragging deer ;DIll just say in my experience ..if that 330 gr hits the front half of the deer's body,hes going down fast!Dont use that as a rule of thumb cause in any situation you want accuracy to be #1 and that bullet to hit exactly where its aimed but..I guess what Im trying to say is that in the case you hit a inch low,or 2 inch to the right...unless the shot is just way off,get ready to drag!

[Randbo]

The extreme is a little different from the Texan in shot count.I get 2 shots within 1.75 inch at 100 yards .If you teether then maybe a little less but I cant do that in the woods so i never practice that way.Its set up for 2 shots..not really a group.If I were you I would do the same..shoot some groups with one or two shots and see how that groups on the target or just try 1 shot at 3000 psi,then refill back to 3000 psi.I know the gun is set to produce 3-4 shots and I have some that will do the same but in real life event the first shot is all your gonna need and if it hits the mark every time at 3000 psi then you will know your range.last year I did take 2 bucks the same morn with the 457 but outside of that Ive never had to fire the gun twice on the same hunt.That 330 gr bullet moving around 800 fps will rock them.You will see!My first year hunting deer with air rifles was comical!!I say that cause my view of their ability was so off.I did gel tests,accuracy tests,every test you could think of,I prob let 4 nice bucks walk that 1st week not thinking they were giving me a suitable shot.I was looking for a quartering away to avoid bone and come behind the ribs into the lungs and heart!after I got a buck and a doe at the end of the season,the next year I was shooting 75-80 yards,breaking shoulder, and dragging deer ;DIll just say in my experience ..if that 330 gr hits the front half of the deer's body,hes going down fast!Dont use that as a rule of thumb cause in any situation you want accuracy to be #1 and that bullet to hit exactly where its aimed but..I guess what Im trying to say is that in the case you hit a inch low,or 2 inch to the right...unless the shot is just way off,get ready to drag!

Your Extreme dont sound to much diffrent than the Texan I only get 2 good shots with the heavy bullets if I try a third shot it go's about 3-4" low at 100 yds.  Here is a picture of a 6 shot group where I filled every 2 shots,  the holes are number what shot they were.  I am satisfied with the accuracy with this bullet, there don't seem to be much info on how accurate these big bores are. I appreciate hearing from you with the Extreme I know now that I am in the ball park. I did get a doe with my Texan at the end of our doe season last year I got the gun just before season closed and I shot her with a 235 gr. TC maxi ball the bullet went in thru the shoulder and exit behind the off shoulder, it made for a heavy blood trail for about 50 yds. where she laid. I have been a hunter for a very long time and have shot moose on down to chipmunks with powder burners and have all ways felt accuracy is a lot more important than what your shooting them with.








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[Jeremy1982]

To me,I think the group is pretty decent at 100 yards.The only shot that stands out is the one a little to the right but that is still within reason.Your gonna see a big diff. in the performance of that 330 gr when compaired to the 230 gr max thou.Ive got prob 20 different bullet molds for the 457 and I only hunt with 2!The 330 gr lyman and I have a 340 gr NOE hp thats a close 2nd.Ive shot deer with the maxi,250 gr wfn,280 gr hp and 300 gr wfn and hands down the 330 hp has been my choice.I used the 280 for awhile but my problem was the 1 st shot was dead on and the 2nd being about 3 inch high.the 330 gr ran about 3/4 of a inch high on the 2nd shot so I switched.After I shot my 1st deer with the 330 gr I was glad I did.

[Randbo]

To me,I think the group is pretty decent at 100 yards.The only shot that stands out is the one a little to the right but that is still within reason.Your gonna see a big diff. in the performance of that 330 gr when compaired to the 230 gr max thou.Ive got prob 20 different bullet molds for the 457 and I only hunt with 2!The 330 gr lyman and I have a 340 gr NOE hp that's a close 2nd.Ive shot deer with the maxi,250 gr wfn,280 gr hp and 300 gr wfn and hands down the 330 hp has been my choice.I used the 280 for awhile but my problem was the 1 st shot was dead on and the 2nd being about 3 inch high.the 330 gr ran about 3/4 of a inch high on the 2nd shot so I switched.After I shot my 1st deer with the 330 gr I was glad I did.

That's good to here about the 330, my mold with soft lead is drooping them at 340 gr. yours are probably 330 because of the bigger hollow point, do you think the bigger hollow point made much difference?

[Jeremy1982]

Well mine drops at 320 gr and yes it did help.great bullet before thou just the expansion of the bullet grew quite a bit.Send me a pm with your address and Ill send you some to try aswell as the 340 gr.I should cast some in the next week or so.

[Extreme]

   Ain't nothing wrong with the 100yard group. I bet it would lay a deer out, 2" at 100 is good. But, the whole fun of the hunt is how close can we get!!!
Great shooting Brother Man

[Randbo]

I shot the Texan today at 200 yds and 150 yds it was doing pretty good at 150 until the 5th shot went hi in the bullseye, but not really all that bad even at 200 for a factory air rifle.[/img]

[kbstingwing]

Still not bad for the distance, it's your fist shot that's gonna matter.

[Prouzy]

I shot the Texan today at 200 yds and 150 yds it was doing pretty good at 150 until the 5th shot went hi in the bullseye, but not really all that bad even at 200 for a factory air rifle.[/img]

Nice! Was this tethered or fill and ES, ammo, etc?

[Randbo]

Nice! Was this tethered or fill and ES, ammo, etc?
[/quote]I shot them of shooting sticks with the scope turned down to 3 power and used the duplex post for aiming to make up for the 6' drop at 200 yds. At 150 yds I used the same aiming method only on 6 power instead of 3. I was filling every shot using 340 gr. bullet cast from a Lyman mold at about 800 fps.