Author Topic: Night Shooting a Mod 95 (Read 2487 times))

Stratojet · « **on:** May 11, 2016, 10:36:56 PM »

Ok, I live with a 450 ft boardwalk that eases out through a swamp to a river. That's the "front yard". The range is set up there. Behind me there's another 350 feet of future air gun range.... Maybe.

The front yard has 20, 30, 40-45, 50, 75 and yes a 100 yard target set up.

We've been doing some night shooting with my 2nd Mod 95 Vortex .22., at 100 yards. The scope is about 7-9 years old, a Crosman 3x9 X 40 AO. Zeroed to 30 yards now.

My gracious locally seasoned hunter/fisherman neighbor but saddled with a wayward .177 break barrel rifle n I have explored shooting my Hatsan at a target at night lit by a solar spotlight. It's fun, if you can work with a black surround whilst trying to place a low mil dot in the same place over n over.

There are several photos. Sorry for the poor quality, it's an I phone at 100 yards or closer.

The first is the old pan that we shot at. 100 yards but thinned by age.

Stratojet · « **Reply #1 on:** May 11, 2016, 10:40:25 PM »

Then we tried tape to hold an old pellet tin to a newer frying pan.

The front shows the tin n pan. The back shows that few CPHP .22 break the pan.

Tape is no good. Moisture, vibration shock, whatever.

Stratojet · « **Reply #2 on:** May 11, 2016, 10:54:58 PM »

actually, here's the taped version.

Then we tried rubber cement (no pics) then the Gorilla glue

Stratojet · « **Reply #3 on:** May 11, 2016, 11:02:34 PM »

Here's what it looks like at 100 yards

And closer. The light is from a solar spotlight placed close to the target.

Stratojet · « **Reply #4 on:** May 11, 2016, 11:05:07 PM »

The solar light and the target.

GD Giles · « **Reply #5 on:** May 12, 2016, 08:29:01 AM »

Nice set up to get some more hours of practice in!

Yogi · « **Reply #6 on:** May 12, 2016, 05:05:52 PM »

What kind of hold over do you need for 100 yards?

-Y

Gut2Fish · « **Reply #7 on:** May 12, 2016, 06:15:05 PM »

That was my thought. Didn't think there'd be enough scope view if zeroed in at 30 yards. Those 95's are nice but drop like a stone. Have not tried my 125 past 70 yards. Was waiting until groups were down to 1.5 inches at that distance. Don't think it's going to happen for me anytime soon.

Nice shooting btw. To be smacking a 3 inch tin consistently @ 100 yards is impressive. Is there much wind in the swamp at night?

Stratojet · « **Reply #8 on:** May 13, 2016, 08:54:14 AM »

the Crosman 3-9 X 40 AO scope has crosshairs, three Mildots before the thicker line starts. I hold the 100 yard target on the lowest mildot, just above the thicker line. The CPHP pellets shoot very straight, so no side to side adjustments are needed.

My neighbor has years of hunting experience, but until recently we shot with similar accuracy. That is, until I helped him understand parallax. He had been offsetting his shots and then shooting with one eye closed. I had him rethink his eye relief position and then shoot with both eyes open. Within a few minutes I saw him open a quarter sized hole with four shots on the 100 yard 12 oz beer can. We are not so close in accuracy results any more.....

Wind is not an issue most days. It's too protected with thick stands of trees and vegetation. The lot is 80' wide in the corridor/range leading down the boardwalk to the river.

Stratojet · « **Reply #9 on:** May 13, 2016, 08:59:51 AM »

After seeing him put four in the Orange 3/4" dot, I was pretty much done for shooting that day.

For the 75 yard target, 2 1/2 Mildots do the trick. 1/2 a dot for 50 yards. Dead on at 30-45, 1/2 dot down for 20 yards.

Stratojet · « **Reply #10 on:** May 13, 2016, 09:16:59 AM »

We set a board up against the tree behind the 100 yard can target for bark protection, at about 125 yards. At that point the pellets are dropping fast. They still embed in the particle board.

Btw, we use a table, small box with towels on it as a rest. He places the gun directly on the towels, grips the gun with his right hand while steadying the stock just forward of the trigger guard with his off hand. There has to be 7-9 inches of gun resting on folded towel. I'm still using a loose artillery hold with my off hand resting on the towels.

Meanwhile, his wayward n older .177 can't be trained to hold any patterns at any distance. So we shoot a lot with the mod 95. I'm over 4,000 pellets so far, which is why I have those silver cans as targets now. He owes me a lot of pellets! But, he gives me redfish, snapper, cobia n Spanish mackerel filets, so I'm not complaining. He tried to teach me how to cook the one squirrel we've dispatched, but well, all I can say about that is "meh".

Yogi · « **Reply #11 on:** May 14, 2016, 01:41:03 AM »

So do you range find? What power do you set you scope at? How did you come up with 2 1/2 mil dots? Trial and error? Or calculations?
My 95 shoots the CPHP's very well to.

Better than the non-hollow points I believe.

-Y

Stratojet · « **Reply #12 on:** May 14, 2016, 09:03:04 AM »

We do a lot of trial and error. Using a can by itself was tough, we had no clear idea of where misses went. But with hits and more pellets we estimated our mil dot placement. Switching to old frying pans then gave us a background big enough to fine tune our shot placements to the point of using "placing the bottommost dot just above the target at 100". Now we just work to hold the gun steady enough to repeat placement.
The hard part is actually seeing the Mildots at night. They disappear completely unless we either use the thick line first and move up, and/or rotate the view until the dot interferes with the target's view.

This scope doesn't actually have "dots". The reticle has wee hash marks instead.

No range finder, but we sometimes use 10x50 binoculars to spot shots. Saves walking 200 yards! We usually take 3 shots apiece. The cool thing about the silver tins is that hits appear as dots of light. The spray paint covers old shots while flaking off nicely to show hits on the pan.

Stratojet · « **Reply #13 on:** May 14, 2016, 09:13:51 AM »

this is the target from last night, taken this morning after I retrieved it for renovation. Gorilla glue works great in holding a flat tin against an ever deforming metal pan. To my joy the only hits in the tin were mine last night, into a space 3 1/8 wide at 100 yds. The line at 1 o'clock is ripped hole from 2 pellets.

Yogi · « **Reply #14 on:** May 14, 2016, 12:41:22 PM »

So your scope is left on 9 power?

-Y

Stratojet · « **Reply #15 on:** May 15, 2016, 05:06:51 PM »

Yogi, sorry I missed that.

Yes, 9 power. That's where I've learned the drop.

Here's today's shots, obviously with the light!

Moved the heavy pistol spinner out to 100. Sprayed it white with the 3/4" dot sticker.

Beat the living cr-- out of the pan n tin. Learned my scope was sending shots to the left on the spinner. No matter what I do, the tin's pink dot remains untouched..

Stratojet · « **Reply #16 on:** May 15, 2016, 06:05:49 PM »

Another day shot with the scope at 9x, and one showing the range. Although the gun isn't aimed for a shot, it appears that it's close. Line it up on a target, place the third hash mark just above the target. Try n hold still..

The holding still appears to be the hard part right now.

Stratojet · « **Reply #17 on:** May 15, 2016, 06:09:07 PM »

From the left, 30 yard, 75 yd pole/can, 101 yd pistol target, 100 yd pan. The blue umbrella is another 150 ft, the canoe is another 100+ ft away.

Stratojet · « **Reply #18 on:** May 15, 2016, 06:24:51 PM »

This is the 100 yard shot at a pistol spinner target with a Hatsan Mod 95 vortex .22, Crosman 3-9 X 40 AO scope at 9x. This will hit the target near center.

Gut2Fish · « **Reply #19 on:** May 15, 2016, 06:34:42 PM »

That's plenty of view in the scope. From what I calculated it would be near 20 inch drop being zeroed @ 30 yrds. Is that about right?

BTW, your neighbor is one heck of a shot to tear a hole like that in beer can in that distance.

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Night Shooting a Mod 95

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