*NEW* Crosman Custom 1300KT Now Available

[Doubletough]

Customize a 1377/1322 with barrel options, grips and more. Forum folks: you have a headstart. We won't be announcing this to our broader audience until Friday afternoon.

NOTE: We'll begin taking orders for Lothar Walther configurations in May.

http://www.crosman.com/custom-shop/

[Charles Outdoors]

Been wishing they would offer these. Might have to start my custom 1377 now.  I guess these won't have the awful stamped warning on the receiver. I do want the LW barrel though.

[Tinknocker1]

sweet ! been a long time waiting !

[tennx]

Sure wish u would offer the fatty forearm....but glad to see this anywho..

[AHMSA]

This is both good and bad news for me.  I really don't need another airgun, but I don't think I can resist this one.  I've been wanting a 1322 with a long barrel and a shoulder stock but I don't know how to modify one myself.  Being able to engrave it is also a huge plus.

[rcflyair]

This is very hard to pass up.  I started with a 2300KT, then got a 2400KT (and I can't seem to put it down).  They're great for starting out in air guns with - simple and ez to shoot.  Now the only problem I have is whether to go with a 10.1" barrel in pistol configuration, or 18" with a carbine stock?

Some one please talk me out of getting one of each....

Choice of steel breech is very very nice, but I wonder if it has the same adjustable trigger as the 2300/2400KT's?

[bird blaster]

I was wondering why they  didn't have these already in the custom shop. ipad won't let me see what's there though.

[Tinknocker1]

This is very hard to pass up.  I started with a 2300KT, then got a 2400KT (and I can't seem to put it down).  They're great for starting out in air guns with - simple and ez to shoot.  Now the only problem I have is whether to go with a 10.1" barrel in pistol configuration, or 18" with a carbine stock?

Some one please talk me out of getting one of each....

Choice of steel breech is very very nice, but I wonder if it has the same adjustable trigger as the 2300/2400KT's?

Chip says the triggers are the same that question was ask on the yellow

[Doubletough]

Choice of steel breech is very very nice, but I wonder if it has the same adjustable trigger as the 2300/2400KT's?

Chip says the triggers are the same that question was ask on the yellow

I WAS WRONG! Same trigger as the standard 13XX. I completely blew reading the ? on the YF (pair of screaming 5yr olds will do that).

[Gertrude]

Very nice to hear this Chip.
I'm sure these will be well received.
Maybe consider offering a Prod trigger for a adjustable 2 stage option ?
Also I highly recommend considering the 2289 pump handle as an option.

[dv8eod]

Of course this comes out now, AFTER I JUST FINISHED BUILDING ONE! 
(At a cost I don't care to think about...  )

[Tinknocker1]

Choice of steel breech is very very nice, but I wonder if it has the same adjustable trigger as the 2300/2400KT's?

Chip says the triggers are the same that question was ask on the yellow

I WAS WRONG! Same trigger as the standard 13XX. I completely blew reading the ? on the YF (pair of screaming 5yr olds will do that).

opps sorry for posting that Chip i see you fixed it 

[maraudinglizard]

Of course this comes out now, AFTER I JUST FINISHED BUILDING ONE! 
(At a cost I don't care to think about...  )

A day later and a dollar shorter, don't feel bad Terry, I probably have more tied up in mine than you do. 

[grimeszee]

Of course this comes out now, AFTER I JUST FINISHED BUILDING ONE! 
(At a cost I don't care to think about...  )

I just built mine and am awaiting the shipment
Camo Carbine .22 cal with 18" barrel, black muzzle break, trigger shoe, and long breach 

[moorepower]

LW barrels in both .177 and .22 coming soon!

[tennx]

Don't forget free shipping Friday (every little bit helps) if order is over $150..goodluck

[dv8eod]

Of course this comes out now, AFTER I JUST FINISHED BUILDING ONE! 
(At a cost I don't care to think about...  )

A day later and a dollar shorter, don't feel bad Terry, I probably have more tied up in mine than you do. 

My only consolation is knowing that mine is running hotter than that stock valve. 
Would have been nice to have been able to save a little bit of money on some of the other parts, though.

[dmeguy]

I am excited to see this. I agree the fatty pump arm and adjustable trigger group would be nice options. Maybe they'll add those by the time the LW barrels are available. I'm going to wait for the LW anyway.

I was hoping that the upcoming 22 LW option meant that it was coming to the 2300 and 2400 series, but if it is, it doesn't show up yet.

Now if they would only offer the 2260 without the roll stamping and with the steel breech!

[Hoosier Daddy]

Of course this comes out now, AFTER I JUST FINISHED BUILDING ONE! 
(At a cost I don't care to think about...  )

A day later and a dollar shorter, don't feel bad Terry, I probably have more tied up in mine than you do. 

My only consolation is knowing that mine is running hotter than that stock valve. 
Would have been nice to have been able to save a little bit of money on some of the other parts, though.

I refuse to add up a total dollar amount for mine so far ... "just a few bucks here and there". 
 Would have been nice to buy it loaded up straight from the custom shop, at least for a starting point.

[Buldawg76]

Here is a post from another blog about the 1377 and customizing it with longer barrels and even as far as putting it in a modified disco wood stock to make it a rifle like the disco only a pumper instead of a PCP and crosman is listening.


Brent   
 
 April 13, 2016 at 3:49 pm 
 

Just a continuation of yesterday’s blog. I emailed and called and talked to a Crosman customer representative about a multi-pumper made up of various 1377, Discover, and Marauder parts ala Gunfun’s suggestions. She said that she’s had quite a few inquiries along the same line. I suggested they make it one of the Custom Shop options, since they already have all the available parts and that they could make it a production gun if they have enough demand. If you are as interested in this concept gun as me, let your voice be heard. There’s strength in numbers!

Brent

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Gunfun1   
 April 13, 2016 at 5:41 pm 
 

Brent
 I would say very much so let them know.

They sent me a reply today wanting to see some of my pictures of the gun. Sent them this morning. So I will say something when and if they get back with me.

I will say this. I was shooting it some this morning. I have one of the Hawke 2.5-10 magnification 1/2 mildot reticle sidewinder scopes on it. Was using the JSB 10.34′s with 5 pumps and hitting my steel spinners out at 50 yards every shot. And that was with a 8 mph crosswind. The gun loves the Discovery barrel.

And one thing I failed to mention is the gun is light. If it weighs 5 pounds that would be pushing it. I haven’t weighed it but I bet it’s at 4 pounds with the scope on it. So it’s not a bad gun to be out in the woods carrying around for a day of shooting.

Oh and enough power to take starlings out to 50 yards at 10 pumps. And that’s even with the pellet passing through the bird. I seen the dirt fly after the birds got hit. And confirmed pass through when I checked the birds.

Definitely a fun little gun. And I bet Crosman could sell it all day long for a $110 and still make a profit on it.

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Chris USA   
 April 13, 2016 at 5:53 pm 
 

GF1,

Let’s just hope you get a piece of that $ pie. After all,…. you did the “homework”.

In fact, take that concept and carry it to the next step,…. let the end users and modders lead the way to the next step. Reward them for it. Ideas would come flooding in. (this would be the opposite of mfgr’s. trolling web sites for ideas on “the next big thing” or trending “want”. Dream on,… huh?

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Gunfun1   
 April 13, 2016 at 7:48 pm 
 

Chris USA
 Not really worried about the peice of the pie.

A custom shop gun like Brent suggested would be cool. But I would like to see a production gun made.

Right now Crosman has the Bengamin 392 and 397 pumpers. But they are a little complicated to scope. And they are on the higher end of the money scale. Then on the other end of the scale you got the plastic smooth bore 760. A production 1377/ Discovery conversion would probably fall right in the middle of the other guns cost wise. But you would have a 95% all metal and wood gun with the 1377/Discovery conversion. And it would be easy to scope or put whatever sight you would like on it with the dove tailed steel breech.

It would be a solid old school traditional pump gun if they made it. If it was on a Walmart shelf I would spend the extra dollars and get it over a 760 any day. Plus if Pyramyd Air would carry it. I bet it would end up having one of BB’s logo’s beside it as a best value for the money guns. That is if Crosman makes it and BB tests it.

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Brent   
 April 13, 2016 at 11:59 pm 
 

Gunfun1,

I’d even buy a prototype (for a reasonable price of course) and thoroughly wring it out for them, with the stipulation that I could return it to get any problems that I found ironed out. I’d really like to see a quality American Multi pump with Crosman on the top of it all once again.

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Gunfun1   
 April 14, 2016 at 12:40 am 
 

Brent
 Buy you a 1377 and 1399 stock combo from Pyramyd Air. Like this.
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/crosman-p1377-with-shoulder-stock-black?m=3606

And a steel breech like this.
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/crosman-177-cal-steel-breech-kit-fits-1377-1740-1760-pc77-air-guns?a=4386

Then get a Discovery barrel from Crosman for around $20 or so.

Then you would have the same gun minus a Discovery or Marauder trigger and the Discovery wood stock. Then put you a scope on it. Then you can basically see what the guns all about. But it is a much nicer gun with the wood Discovery stock adapted to it.

And with you a 100%. Would love to see the gun happen.

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Brent   
 April 14, 2016 at 1:29 am 
 

Gunfun,

Let’s see what they do with it. I would rather buy the whole thing with wooden stock and Marauder trigger. I’m tired of mediocre triggers.

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Gunfun1   
 April 14, 2016 at 1:54 am 
 

Brent
 Hopefully they will listen.

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Siraniko   
 April 14, 2016 at 6:58 am 
 

That is a very nice pumper. I hope that they offer it even as a custom job from their shop. It will surely haunt my dreams for many nights since even the parts are not available to me.

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Gunfun1   
 April 14, 2016 at 11:58 am 
 

Siraniko
 You can’t get parts from the custom shop from over where your from, right?

And if it the 1377/wood stock Discovery conversion did become a production model. Could you get that over there?

I don’t remember if you said they don’t allow guns into the country. That would be a shame if you can not get one.

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Gunfun1   
 April 14, 2016 at 8:55 pm 
 

Siraniko
 I posted some links of the pictures of my gun if you want to see it.

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Gunfun1   
 April 14, 2016 at 8:55 pm 
 

Siraniko
 Suppose to say posted the links below.

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Brent   
 April 14, 2016 at 11:08 am 
 

Did you take the breach and the pump to it out of the pistol body and put it in the woodstock? Does the Discovery barrel fit right into the steel breech for the 1377 or does it take some fittling?

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Gunfun1   
 April 14, 2016 at 12:19 pm 
 

Brent
 I had to cut the Discovery stock in half more or less to make the pump handle. I did have to router out the stock so the cocking mechanism fit in the front half of the stock which is now the pump handle. Then had to drill two holes in the wood to be able to attach the pump handle to the pump arm mechanism.

The back part of the Discovery stock was a direct fit to the 1377 main tube after the Discovery trigger was bolted on. The mounting lug on the trigger assembly and srew to hold the stock on is from the Discovery also.

If you want the Marauder trigger on the gun you have to get a generation 1 Marauder trigger assembly and mounting lug and bolt. You won’t have a trigger gaurd with a Marauder trigger though. So you will have to figure that out. Also (do not) use a generation 2 Marauder trigger. They changed the mounting hole locations. So it will not work.

And the link I posted above for the steel breech will bolt right on top of the 1377 tube. Then the Discovery barrel is a direct fit. Slip it in tighten the set screw type of deal.

If you decide to try to make one with the Discovery stock just post a reply to me on the blog if you need to know something.

And if you do the 1377 with the 1399 stock like in the link above and put the steel breech and Discovery barrel on it. It only takes me about a half hour to change the pistol over to a rifle. But I done those types of mods to many times. So I might be a little faster than normal.

Let me know if you do something.

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Gunfun1   
 April 14, 2016 at 8:47 pm 
 

Brent
 Here’s some pictures of the 1377/Discovery conversion.

http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/gcarsgp2/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160311_100328649_zps44q9wid0.jpg.html?filtersuser=144995042&filtersrecent=1&sort=1&o=2

http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/gcarsgp2/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160312_204514921_zpsksdix8a1.jpg.htmlsort=1&o=0

http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/gcarsgp2/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160311_095959510_zpsg03osdum.jpg.html?sort=1&o=2

Hope the links work. Sometimes photobucket is hard to use. For me anyway.

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Gunfun1   
 April 14, 2016 at 8:53 pm 
 

Brent
 The first link and last link are the same 3 pictures. The middle link doesn’t work.

And the two darker pictures is when I first put it together with the Bugbuster scope. The brighter picture with the pump arm open with the mounting srews showing is with my Hawke sidewinder scope that I recently put on it.

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Siraniko   
 April 15, 2016 at 1:49 am 
 

Gunfun1

The Crosman Custom Shop has it in stock! The only difference is that they don’t offer it with a wooden stock just plastic.

The item is the 1300KT.

Importing an airgun from overseas is prohibitively expensive. Not impossible for someone who is willing to pay the price though. The exchange rate and tariffs are a killer though. We expect to pay at least three times the listed market price before it gets into our hands.

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Gunfun1   
 April 15, 2016 at 2:32 am 
 

Siraniko
 When I emailed BB pictures of my wood Discovery stocked 1377 he mentioned that Crosman was going to be adding the 1377 to the custom shop guns.

And I see the longest barrel they offer is 18″. I have tryed a 18″ barrel in the past. And I have to say the longer 23″ Discovery barrel benefits the gun more performance wise. And then you would have to add the 1399 stock to make it a rifle. And the 1399 stock is not that ergonomic.

So I still say the wood stock adds to the gun nostalgia wise and just makes it feel like a more exspensive gun then the plastic 1399 stock and the plastic pump handle.

But anyway it’s one step closer to making the 1377 a production pump rifle. Hmm maybe they can add the Discovery modified stock and trigger assembly as a option in the custom shop. They grab a stock cut it and rout it out to specs on a blue print and ship when gun is complete. Then add the Marauder trigger as a option.

Well you can see how the gears turn in my brain. Like that movie about baseball. Feild of Dreams.

“Biuld it. They will come”


Chip
You have anything you would like to add for us in terms of if or when it may happen.

Mike