Need Help Please with Benjamin Trail NP2 Piston Seal

[Trail Master]

As the title says it I need help with actually getting a new piston seal for my Benjamin Trail NP2. If you have read my other posts this is my third one I had to replace. Unfortunately I cannot take this back to Cabelas because I had taken the last one. Also I have done quite a bit of work to it with the trigger and barrel pivot washers. It's not a lot of work but took a lot of time finally getting it perfect. Well this morning I finally got the guts to take it apart and finish the brass washers. I have measured and they fit flawlessly to the original plastic ones. Well while looking over the gun I look down in the breech hole and notice something odd. The front of my piston seal is broken.  I shined a light down in there and sure enough it's ripped I can see it plane as day. I don't have a spring compressor or have the tools to make one to take it fully out to inspect it. But from the front of it, it is ripped so I bet the rest of it looks pretty bad also. Well I built up the courage to ask fellow Air Gun Friends if they could help me with a new piston seal, a little moly paste and oil for this gun. I have none and have no means able to get any. I have recently got layed off work and am honestly completely broke to purchase these things. I did find a site that has the piston seal I will try and post a link. But what I was hoping if someone has a couple spares that they could give me one, along with a little bit of moly paste for the piston when I put it back together, and a little bit of oil I can use for this gun. I would be so gratefully appreciative of it. So if anyone out there can help me I am very thankful if you can. Also I did call Crosman to explain to them about the situation and the first thing they said is why did you have the gun apart? I told them I didn't and I felt it was loosing power so I looked inside the breech hole and noticed the piston seal was ripped apart. They advised me to take it back where I got it from since I still have it within the time I can return or exchange it. I told them that I had replaced two already and that this is the third one and I had taken the last one. They said to wait till they get more in stock and if not after a few more weeks I can send it in. I don't feel like sending my whole gun in. Also I would have to pay for the shipping which I cannot do due to no money. I don't understand why they couldn't just send me a piston seal? I have always heard that their customer service was good, not this time it wasn't. The older woman I talked to was kind of rude. Implying that I had taken the gun apart which voids the warrant anyway. She had no idea that I had, I didn't tell her. And if I do send it in they will see I altered the trigger, I polished it, removing the black paint off and making it silver, along with the barrel pivot washers. If you have read this whole post and are reading this sentence, Thank You for taking the time to do so. If you or know anyone can help me in my situation I'm telling ya I would be very thankful, I really hate asking for anything.

[Trail Master]

I forgot to post the link for the piston seal either for reference or to help me get one.

http://airgunseals.com/product_info.php/benjamin-np2-rifle-seal-kit-p-1099

[mobilehomer]

Trail, pm me your address.

[Trail Master]

I just sent you a PM with my address. Thank You very much Ken I appreciate this so much. I noticed that it wasn't hitting as hard as it was when I had first got the gun. That's the answer. Oh this is going to really improve it. Man thank you again

[Trail Master]

Hey Ken I saw that you had the Steel Eagle also. Which do you like best between the Trail NP2 or the Steel Eagle NP2. Aren't they the exact gun but with different a stocks? I had seen that one at Cabelas also, I did like how it  flared out on the front of the stock. If it had the pistol grip that the Trail has and that feature built into one gun with the rubber inserts. I would like that best. It's to bad that Crosman can't corporate all the best features into one gun. What I had just mentioned, on top of the bull barrel sleeve being like the one on the original Trail NP's, metal not plastic like the Np2. Put a try glow from and rear sights on them, and shoot as hard as the Trail XL's and put picatiny rails on each side to attach a bipod. Perfect break barrel gun from Crosman if they could build that. I'm dreaming on that one. I was thinking sometime in the future to maybe buy the Steel Eagle stock and the bull barrel parts from the original NP and try to make the work with the NP2. There is something I saw online where this guy custom makes muzzle breaks and compressors and he had made a full bull barrel out of carbon fiber that fit down the full length of the barrel with a built in compressor. Man it looks cool.

[wimpanzee]

I can send you a bit of moly paste (DuPont M77 molykote) if you need some. A tiny bit is enough for one gun.

PM me your address if you need it.

Good luck getting your piston seal worked out! I'm surprised Crosman could not be convinced to just send you one. They shipped me a few .22 barrels (for free) when I complained enough about my synrod and (now sold) prod.

[mobilehomer]

Trail, I'll send the seal and some moly paste.
Yes, the two are the same mechanically. I actually like them equally. I thought I would like the Eagle better, but not really. They both shoot GREAT!!! They both like the JSB Jumbo exact 18.1, but the Crosman CPHP 14.3 are pretty good, too.
I use a bar clamp to compress the ram.

[Roadworthy]

On the off chance you wish to play with pivot washers now or in the future see the attached.

[Pellet Fun]

Thanks Thomas. I downloaded your tech sheets into iBooks for future reference.

[Trail Master]

Thank You Thomas I actually had downloaded that file from you before on one of the posts on the GTA Forum. I cannot remember which one but I did save it for future reference. Thank You all for all your help. I really appreciate it.

[Old Corps]

Trail, I'll send the seal and some moly paste.
Yes, the two are the same mechanically. I actually like them equally. I thought I would like the Eagle better, but not really. They both shoot GREAT!!! They both like the JSB Jumbo exact 18.1, but the Crosman CPHP 14.3 are pretty good, too.
I use a bar clamp to compress the ram.

You're a good man Ken! 

Ed

[Spark Master]

The older woman I talked to was kind of rude. Implying that I had taken the gun apart which voids the warrant anyway. She had no idea that I had, I didn't tell her. And if I do send it in they will see I altered the trigger, I polished it, removing the black paint off and making it silver, along with the barrel pivot washers. If you have read this whole post and are reading this sentence, Thank You for taking the time to do so. If you or know anyone can help me in my situation I'm telling ya I would be very thankful, I really hate asking for anything.

Hi,

I called Crosman a while back and asked about triggers and why do they put such horrid ones in them. She said after markets are fine BUT remove them if you send yours back , because they do not fix "yours" they send you a new one. So if you put in a nice working Charlie Da Tuner trigger, you do not get it back. They may never ever see the modifications.  She said many people replace triggers in AR's as well as fire arms and Crosman will not void a warrenty. She told me if I buy a new rifle and want a nicer trigger keep the old one and replace it b4 returning , no harm no rejection on warrenty side.

[Old Corps]

The older woman I talked to was kind of rude. Implying that I had taken the gun apart which voids the warrant anyway. She had no idea that I had, I didn't tell her. And if I do send it in they will see I altered the trigger, I polished it, removing the black paint off and making it silver, along with the barrel pivot washers. If you have read this whole post and are reading this sentence, Thank You for taking the time to do so. If you or know anyone can help me in my situation I'm telling ya I would be very thankful, I really hate asking for anything.

Hi,

I called Crosman a while back and asked about triggers and why do they put such horrid ones in them. She said after markets are fine BUT remove them if you send yours back , because they do not fix "yours" they send you a new one. So if you put in a nice working Charlie Da Tuner trigger, you do not get it back. They may never ever see the modifications.  She said many people replace triggers in AR's as well as fire arms and Crosman will not void a warrenty. She told me if I buy a new rifle and want a nicer trigger keep the old one and replace it b4 returning , no harm no rejection on warrenty side.

Good to hear.

Ed

[Trail Master]

I just got time to look at this post today. I r a good person Ken Thank You very much. I am actually happy with the way it was shooting but I did notice a huge difference in the recoil and power of the gun. It has to have burrs inside the piston chamber. I will make sure I sand it out with some 400 grit wet/dry sandpaper to remove any rough spots. And yeah the bar clamp is a real good idea.

[Trail Master]

Ken I just noticed that you have three completely different scopes also. I am really gearing towards that UTG exact model I was looking at. How do they compare? Which is your favorite? Brightest? Features u know. I think the auTG offers a lot for the money and have read good things about them

[TexasInfidel]

  "That Old Woman" LOL!!
She has been there for a VEEERY long time and yes she can be something "most days"
Im sold on UTG glass,wont buy anything else for an air gun platform
Go with pretty much anything that has the 30mm tube for the "brighter picture"
I still have a 3X12X40 in 1" as well as a 4X16X44 in 30mm and the sight difference is huge
Be sure not to over scope,its barely a 20fpe shooter inside 50yds which a 4X32 will easily cover