Author Topic: Best Air Rifles Under A Grand? (Read 22263 times))

EyeSlayer · « **Reply #40 on:** March 01, 2016, 03:25:51 PM »

I noticed it says the shroud goes past the barrel 5 1/2" so in reality it's not much shorter if any than an LDC then?

I've been looking at that R10 MK2 a little more and man that's a nice gun is that as quiet as a Marauder? That's at the very tail end of my range but boy that's a fine gun.

rkr · « **Reply #41 on:** March 01, 2016, 03:42:03 PM »

Quote from: EyeSlayer on March 01, 2016, 03:25:51 PM

I noticed it says the shroud goes past the barrel 5 1/2" so in reality it's not much shorter if any than an LDC then?

I've been looking at that R10 MK2 a little more and man that's a nice gun is that as quiet as a Marauder? That's at the very tail end of my range but boy that's a fine gun.

Effective LDCs are about 200mm long and 30mm in diameter, some even bigger. Factory shroud in R10 is a joke, get a VC version instead.

EyeSlayer · « **Reply #42 on:** March 01, 2016, 04:00:53 PM »

I put a poll up to get a general idea of who likes what. I didn't include the Marauder simply because as I stated earlier I already have one and love it to death but want a different gun it's in no way forgotten.

aceflier · « **Reply #43 on:** March 01, 2016, 05:04:20 PM »

You don't have a .25 Mrod though.

out of the guns listed the Sumatra is a powerhouse for the price.the condors are nice also. I also like the s500z. Lol probably not helping much. I don't think you would do wrong with any of those really.. Only downfall on most of those listed are parts availability.

EyeSlayer · « **Reply #44 on:** March 01, 2016, 05:16:46 PM »

Lol I knew someone would say that! Looks like the Sumatra is a popular choice

Booger · « **Reply #45 on:** March 01, 2016, 05:50:41 PM »

I was looking at the BSA R10 and looking hard. I then found the .177 Daystate Regal (about $200 more), I picked up the phone and was talking about it at the same time the picture above it was a Daystate MK4. Before I realized what I was saying, I told him I want the MK4. I have not looked back. Daystate is a very quality rifle with the new slingshot valve that saves air and offers more shots.

With my 144cc air tube I got 145 shots:

AVG   896.36   15.42
ES   42.20
SD   10.07

If the Regal XL is anything like the MK4 I would say go for it. It is the most accurate PCP I have ever shot and I have shot a few.

Schmeddz1 · « **Reply #46 on:** March 01, 2016, 05:51:09 PM »

The one gun I bought the most recently that I found some actual happiness with, (After I found the right pellets!) was the BSA Buccaneer SE. It was a .177 I swore up and down I would never get a .177 but it was too good a deal to pass up! (That and it was close to my birthday! It was $320 for a few days on AMZ before they figured out their mistake. A few of us on this forum got a great deal!) I know there are lots of 'trigger snobs' out there, but this one had a decent enough trigger that I didn't have issues with it. (I am not criticizing great triggers,, not at all, not at all! Or the snobs...) But for a basic field gun that you could pick off a lot of small pesky sparrows with, I think this gun would be fine.
My one and biggest gripe with the gun is the loud report with no moderator. This thing sounds like a .22 short rimfire. NOT backyard friendly!
I also had issues finding a decent pellet combo for the rifle. Not a single Gamo pellet got a decent enough group to even push out past 20 yards. One group was about 5" and looked like the proverbial shotgun pattern! Gamo might need to rethink their pellet situation since they sell a lot of guns to the 'Mericans and they use FPS instead of accuracy as the main selling point. I usually prefer accuracy. I think most of us here do!
However, with JSB's and even Xman premiers I was getting decent groups at 40 yards. After that I turned the Gamo pellets into fishing tackle and Aircraft counterbalances for my control surfaces!

(Gamo and Daisy pellets go into the lead recovery bucket from now on! Never to be shot through a gun previous to recycling!)
If I eventually find a legal moderator that has a semi permanent mounting for the barrel. I think I will have a great backyard gun. As it is with the screw on and off 'barrel protector/flash suppressor/muzzle break' I don't think the government will go along with a screw on/off muffler. That is one of the only laws I envy about the British crew across the pond. Need a silencer? Go buy one and screw it on. Of course you can't have a 12 foot pound or higher rifle in "Jolly Old". I'll take the heavy hitters anyday... and a loud gun. Whooo! Go 'Merica!
I digressed... agin! I do that... Sue me... if you can find me.... but don't bother... I got no money...

dcorvino · « **Reply #47 on:** March 01, 2016, 05:53:49 PM »

My vote is for the Sumatra
They are not pellet picky and you can adjust power on the fly.
They can be loud so you might want to look into an ldc.

Dave

EyeSlayer · « **Reply #48 on:** March 01, 2016, 06:27:58 PM »

I almost bought the Buccaneer but waited. Found out it's got a Gamo trigger and that was the last time I considered it! It looks like a nice gun other than that though.

Booger · « **Reply #49 on:** March 01, 2016, 06:45:09 PM »

Quote from: EyeSlayer on March 01, 2016, 06:27:58 PM

I almost bought the Buccaneer but waited. Found out it's got a Gamo trigger and that was the last time I considered it! It looks like a nice gun other than that though.

I was told the Gamo trigger with a little work can be made to shoot nicely.

EyeSlayer · « **Reply #50 on:** March 01, 2016, 06:49:52 PM »

Wish I had the money for that MK4 Booger! I've heard mixed reviews about the Rainstorm II some love it others seem to not like it so much say accuracy isn't to good.

I'll add the Buccaneer to the list in case some want to vote for it

Tweeter · « **Reply #51 on:** March 01, 2016, 07:31:37 PM »

I have a .177 Rotek and it is a nice rifle but there are definitely better rifles on your list that are miles ahead in the quality department. Mine just got sent off for a tune mostly just to lower the power to add shots but the trigger is the downfall of the Rotek. Some people complain about the cast parts (the same used in the 850 AirMagnum) but I see no trouble with that. Accuracy is great but would be super duper great with a half decent trigger.

EyeSlayer · « **Reply #52 on:** March 01, 2016, 08:38:43 PM »

Sounds like I made a good decision on holding off on that gun Justin. I have an 850 myself and absolutely love the trigger on that thing it's a hair trigger! I would of thought the Rotek's would have been the same or similar sounds like it's a totally different trigger for the worse. I'm also shocked being German made that it is lacking in quality no wonder it's not to popular a gun.

EyeSlayer · « **Reply #53 on:** March 01, 2016, 09:52:55 PM »

Forget what I said about the Rainstorm Jesse I got my guns confused I'll check out the Regal at PA.

Just checked it out $1385 for the Regal XL at PA and that's on sale ouch!

Tweeter · « **Reply #54 on:** March 01, 2016, 09:59:53 PM »

As far as I know they are the same trigger but the Walther has a very stiff hammer spring to get the power up and it hurts the trigger. Atleast that's how I understand it. After owning the Rotek for awhile I would say that it would be a great mid priced rifle if it sold for around $500 but $700 is just asking a bit too much (I do like it enough so I don't regret buying it, that's why it's off getting a tune up). You can use a coupon for the Rotek at PA so it can be had for less though.

EyeSlayer · « **Reply #55 on:** March 01, 2016, 10:09:46 PM »

The Sportsmansguide had it for $540 with their free 10% off members promotion with free shipping but they sold out of them a few days ago but might be getting more in. The trigger problem you described does make sense I can see that being an issue that trigger might be a little to weak for that gun.

SpiralGroove · « **Reply #56 on:** March 01, 2016, 10:58:38 PM »

Hey EyeSlayer,
If I wanted a great hunting gun in your price range, I think the Sumatra in .22 or .25 would be the way to go. Bigger game, then maybe the .30 caliber

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But I'm a plinker and target shooter at this point in my life -> only. I also, really appreciate a beautiful (piece of art) gun. That's why I went with the BSA R10's, more aimed toward the fine art of shooting and appreciating it's style, rather taking out bigger game.

From a mechanical point of view, the R10 is more advanced than the AAS510, and a better shooting platform. However, I still want a Walnut, thumb hole version (AAS510) some day

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From what I've read & understand you intend to use the gun for, the R10 in both calibers should be enough and deliver 60 to 70 good shots using the 10 shot magazine.

After owning 20+ rifles (Springer's & PCP's) I can honestly say, buying fewer, nicer guns, is the way to go. Otherwise, you get to the point where you can't remember their names anymore

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These days, I mostly just shoot the R10's and QB's -> Good Luck ...... Tough Choice.

Bye the way, the QB is the most underrated gun of them all ................

EyeSlayer · « **Reply #57 on:** March 02, 2016, 01:19:39 AM »

Thanks for the info and advice Kirk! Power is lower on my list of priorities I don't need a super powerful gun something that's accurate in the 20-30ftlb range is what I'm looking for I don't need something that has 40+ftlbs of energy that would just be overkill. A good looking accurate shooter is more what I'm looking for and I do prefer a carbine type over full size. I won't be shooting raccoons or larger animals with this gun. That being said the guns mentioned with the power adjustment are a nice feature to have but I don't have to have it. I thought the BSA Scorpion would be a good option or possibly the Ultra. The gun I would want most and buy in a heartbeat is the AAS510 Carbine it's got everything I'm looking for unfortunately it's out of my price range.

rkr · « **Reply #58 on:** March 02, 2016, 01:40:32 AM »

Quote from: EyeSlayer on March 02, 2016, 01:19:39 AM

Thanks for the info and advice Kirk! Power is lower on my list of priorities I don't need a super powerful gun something that's accurate in the 20-30ftlb range is what I'm looking for I don't need something that has 40+ftlbs of energy that would just be overkill. A good looking accurate shooter is more what I'm looking for and I do prefer a carbine type over full size. I won't be shooting raccoons or larger animals with this gun. That being said the guns mentioned with the power adjustment are a nice feature to have but I don't have to have it. I thought the BSA Scorpion would be a good option or possibly the Ultra. The gun I would want most and buy in a heartbeat is the AAS510 Carbine it's got everything I'm looking for unfortunately it's out of my price range.

If Ultra is in your price range it's a cracking little gun. In UK it's actually some 150$ cheaper than Scorpion so you in USA are getting good deals on Scorpions. Anyway, .177 version is best left around 12-14 fpe but you can push the .22 past 20 fpe if you want. Add Huub regulator and shroud and you have a very nice and short hunting rig.

Since you talk about compact guns, have you considered bullpups? A Vulcan with their CZ barrels or maybe even FX Wildcat (if they have sorted out their problems) might be worth consideration.

EyeSlayer · « **Reply #59 on:** March 02, 2016, 01:51:30 AM »

It's funny you mention that cause I was just wondering why on earth the Ultra was more expensive than the Scorpion over here it's almost half the size! It's a very good looking little gun I just cannot justify paying an extra $140 for a gun that is going to preform less than the Scorpion if anything the only thing that is has is it's shorter than the Scorpion. I don't see your vote for the Scorpion in the poll it needs some help!

I didn't even consider a bullpup I think they are all over a thousand dollars but I could be wrong.

*Confirmed the FX Wildcat is $1400 here in the states and I don't even think the Vulcan is available.

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Best Air Rifles Under A Grand?

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