Best Air Rifles Under A Grand?

[Nomadic Pirate]

It's a 60 seconds Job, unscrew the unit and screw in the Foster that Pyramyd sells,..no need to take the air out.

as simple as that

By unit do you mean the fill probe itself or something on the air tank?

The Fill unit where you put the probe in, use the probe for leverage and unscrew it, than screw in the Foster that Pyramyd sells,...honestly a 60 seconds job

Here it is

https://www.pyramydair.com/product/quick-disconnect-male-fitting-o-ring?a=2841

[EyeSlayer]

I was told by someone over the phone I forgot where that said the Buccaneer has a different trigger than the Gamo Coyote and that's exactly why I didn't include the Coyote cause I heard the trigger was pretty rough. They could be wrong but it does look different than the Coyote's although it might still be a Gamo trigger I suppose.

Thanks for the info Sam what do you think about the Contour G6?  PA has a heck of a deal on it with a free Hawke scope and includes a moderator for $739!  Reminds me of a BSA Ultra and I like the olive green stock a lot more than the Compatto's stock I do not like black synthetic stocks. 

[ancient1one]

If you want a single shot Contour in 22 cal there is one being sold with a real nice stock and LDC for $535. Cant go wrong for that price. Neil is know throughout the airgun community so no worries about the seller.

PM me for info on a new Hawke scope.

http://www.airgunnation.com/topic/for-sale-brocock-contour-22/ This will not last long so if your serious contact the seller.

[EyeSlayer]

Is that the S6 or the G6 for that price?  I noticed PA says the Contour S6 only has a max of 16 ft lbs of energy where as the G6 has 23 ft lbs. They also state the Concept S6 only has 14.5 ft lbs of energy!  It's a bigger gun than the Contour why is the velocity so poor?  I don't want a gun with anything less than 20 ft lbs.

[Extreme]

  Sumatra Carbine .22 with an Anthony Storey LDC some HN Barracuda Power (copper ) pellets will put the smack on Racoon and smaller game. On lower power with just about any 14gr pellet she is deadly accurate. Can't go wrong with a .22 Carbine very accurate plenty of shots and so nice to shoot ans shoulder.
Best of Luck Brother

[EyeSlayer]

Thanks Valente!  Seems most really like the Sumatra it does look like a great gun. I am defiantly leaning towards a carbine type. Can't believe no one has mentioned the Walther Rotek is it too new or just not that good? 

[rkr]

From your list:

BSA Scorpion, most accurate one and thus my favorite. My .25 is sub MOA gun at 100M. Nice quality and trigger.
AAS510, quite accurate and the best quality gun in your list. Has some limitations that I personally don't like (power, safety, shroud).
Sumatra, most powerful and lever action. Lacks in trigger and accuracy when compared to two above.

Buccaneer, GAMO trigger. Why buy one when Scorpion is still available.
Walther, I had a discussion with a respected gunsmith about these guns and he didn't have very good things to say about their construction. Mediocre single action trigger and some guns have had rather poor accuracy.

[EyeSlayer]

Thanks for the info rkr that's good stuff. Now I know the Buccaneer is off my list!  Do you know why no one is selling the Scorpion with the beech stock in .177 or .22 anymore did the Buccaneer replace it?  What don't you like about the AA s510 in terms of power it's adjustable and quite powerful is it not?  What don't you like about its shroud? 

[rkr]

Thanks for the info rkr that's good stuff. Now I know the Buccaneer is off my list!  Do you know why no one is selling the Scorpion with the beech stock in .177 or .22 anymore did the Buccaneer replace it?  What don't you like about the AA s510 in terms of power it's adjustable and quite powerful is it not?  What don't you like about its shroud? 

Beech stock Scorpions are available in other markets, you can also get walnut and woodland camo stocks.

AA PCP platform gets maxed out soon after 40 fpe while the BSA is easy to push past 50 fpe. Of course with enough mods anything is possible but BSA is easier to start with and 55fpe is relatively easy to get from .25 guns. It matters when you try shooting JSB kings in the 880-920 fps range for long range accuracy. For .22 guns that's not such a big deal as AA has enough power for most needs. AA barrel is also rather close to the air tube which means that you can not fit a shroud with adequate volume to make the gun quiet. This then means that you need to attach LDC in front of the shroud if you want a quiet gun which makes the gun really long. For BSAs you can get 28mm shrouds from Huub and they are very effective.

[Mod90]

Sumatra carbine would definitely fit the bill all right. Another option would be a tuned RS II.
Whatever gun you go for, keep this in mind.

You want something that can be used as an all purpose hunting & plinking rig, & with that in mind you really should lean toward the .25 cal. A starling is just as dead when shot from a .25 as it is when shot from a .177/.22, the .25 will just make it easier to take longer shots or hunt larger critters down the line if you chose to.

[rkr]

Sumatra carbine would definitely fit the bill all right. Another option would be a tuned RS II.
Whatever gun you go for, keep this in mind.

You want something that can be used as an all purpose hunting & plinking rig, & with that in mind you really should lean toward the .25 cal. A starling is just as dead when shot from a .25 as it is when shot from a .177/.22, the .25 will just make it easier to take longer shots or hunt larger critters down the line if you chose to.

I would steer clear of RS2 unless you can fix it's shortcomings. They have huge power potential but they also have some design faults and mediocre QC. Agree on .25, that's the way to go for long range pellet shooter.

[grimeszee]

I am a big fan of the Airforce line of guns myself, this is my FT Hunter setup for this year at under a grand.

[ancient1one]

Is that the S6 or the G6 for that price?  I noticed PA says the Contour S6 only has a max of 16 ft lbs of energy where as the G6 has 23 ft lbs. They also state the Concept S6 only has 14.5 ft lbs of energy!  It's a bigger gun than the Contour why is the velocity so poor?  I don't want a gun with anything less than 20 ft lbs.

Not sure about the fpe but go by what the website says. I had two Brocock Contour S6's. One shot AA 16 grain at 23 fpe the other shot H&N 14.66 at 21 fpe. Both were very accurate. The one in the photos liked AA 16 grain and shot groups inside a dime at 40 yards consistently(still sorry I traded that gun).

Both guns got about 18 -21 shots a on a 2900 psi fill. Filling the small tube from 1800 to 2900 psi took about 35 - 40 pumps with a Hill pump. Very very air efficient for non regulated guns. When I filled with a 88 cu ft tank the tank would last me a long time between fills.

[EyeSlayer]

Rkr you make some good points. Do you know why the beech & walnut aren't available in the U.S.?  I can get the beech in .25 cal all day long but not .177 & .22 I wonder why? 

Ricky, I think .25 would be overkill for my situation the furthest I would be shooting is 50 yards. Plus I already have a bunch of .177 & .22 ammo on hand and don't feel like spending a bunch of money on pellets again. I also shoot a lot of sparrows and my .22 MRod turns them into jello as it is!

Sam, from my understanding they make an XL version and non XL version you must of had the XL version which gives you more fps. They also have deluxe and non deluxe models and I believe the non deluxe don't even get pressure gauges which would be a deal breaker for me. On either their website or the Canadian one you told me about they claim 1/2" groups at 30 yards!  I'm getting less than dime shot groups with my Marauder at that range so that makes me wonder why they would claim that.

Nice gun Kevin! My only complaint with AirForce guns is that I've heard they aren't really as accurate as others and they are only single shots I prefer a multi shot.

[GD Giles]

Knowing the power on tap w/the Sumatra I can't imagine it in .177. It was on my 'gonna get it' list but I find I'm drawn to something more akin to a bullpup. That said, I've had the opportunity to fire a couple of Norman's Sumatra's and they are fine guns. Loads of power and accurate.

[gg51]

For those listed the Air Arms S500 is the most elegant by a long shot, and quiet.  I have an Air Force SS that is plenty accurate, at least this one is.  If you can stomach the the faux military styling the AF costs less than the Air Arms.  I have never figured out why a repeater is a necessity in an air weapon, unless you plan on missing a lot, or have waves of rabid zombie squirrels that attack regularly.  For birds I'd go .177, shoots flatter and in a PCP is still probably overkill for them.

[EyeSlayer]

Thanks for the info gg51. Air Arms are extremely nice guns from what I've heard they are really accurate, very nice looking and well made hard to beat that if I could afford a s510 I would buy it in a heartbeat. The reason for the repeater is that you can stay on target in the case you do miss. Might not be a big deal for some as I've made something like 30 or more consecutive one shot kills with my Mrod. There have been a few instances where I'll shoot a bird and then taken a second bird that was near the first one which wouldn't have been nearly as easy with a single shot. I agree with your take on the .177 for birds even a .22 is a little overkill and a .25 cal there would be nothing left but feathers!

[rkr]

Rkr you make some good points. Do you know why the beech & walnut aren't available in the U.S.?  I can get the beech in .25 cal all day long but not .177 & .22 I wonder why? 

Probably importer decision. They've sold out the beech stock guns and now wait for the synthetics to go out before ordering a new batch. If you fancy .177 a carbine version of Scorpion SE is rather compact and usually prints 1/2" or smaller groups at 50 yards. The power can be upped quite easily to 15-16 fpe for flat trajectory if you so wish. Here's mine:

[EyeSlayer]

Thanks that does make sense. Love your Scorpion that is a really good looking gun!  I'm interested to know why you went with the shroud over a moderator is it quieter or is it just because it makes the gun shorter without having a moderator at the end?  How much would that shroud set me back I can get a TKO mod for under $100 for that gun.

[rkr]

Thanks that does make sense. Love your Scorpion that is a really good looking gun!  I'm interested to know why you went with the shroud over a moderator is it quieter or is it just because it makes the gun shorter without having a moderator at the end?  How much would that shroud set me back I can get a TKO mod for under $100 for that gun.

A proper shroud has more volume than a regular 30mm LDC thus making it more quiet while allowing for a shorter overall length. XTX sells Huub shrouds and they are very good ones:

http://xtxair.com/eshop.php#!/Shroud-Bullbarrel-Huub-15-barrel-version/p/32626693/category=15507031

Personally I went a bit overkill with that CF shroud, it's as long as normal LDC. Loudest noise is pellet hitting target, then comes the hammer hitting the valve and actual muzzle blast is really hard to detect.