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[Oldgringo]

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North Country Gal's blue hw is what prompted my post. However, from what I have seen, all her groups are excellent no matter what the gun. I'd have to see her results from a 460 to be fair. And yes its cold by her, she lives an hour north of me.
I also was contacted by Greg about the great deal he found at Kräle Shietport. I haven't seen any of his HW shooting results.

Thank you for the thoughtful response.

I saw my name, eh?  I'm still in the learnin' phase with my 97K.  It was sunny and warm but kinda' breezy over the weekend.  Sunday afternoon, I set up the chrony and did some 10 shot groups at 30 yards in the backyard.  This was the best group:

This measured a rough 1/2" out to out using AA 8.44 gr. Field Diabolo pellets in the 4.52 head size.  It was chronied at 824.2 AV. with an SD of 9.1.

Another target was almost as good, group wise using H&N FTT with 4. 51 head size.  While the H&N group had a flyer (me ?), the numbers were considerably better at 839.3 AV and SD of 3.8.  The jury is still out on pellets on my 97K. and it'll be a while before I can shoot again.  I had orthopedic surgery on my left hand yesterday and it is wrapped up/ splinted, looks like a club and hurts like a 'sombe'.   

As for Krale Schietsport,  OUTSTANDING!   

[north country gal]

Nice shooting, Greg. That's a worthy 97K group for sure. Hope you heal up fast. Take care.

[Oldgringo]

Nice shooting, Greg. That's a worthy 97K group for sure. Hope you heal up fast. Take care.

Thank you......

[phoebeisis]

Old Gringo
Great shooting! Hope you heal quickly.
Quick question
I just checked Krale Schie…
Their price on the HW97 -plain wood stock
is 360E but outside the EU it is just 297E since they deduct the VAT -
so about $330 current rate.

How much was shipping to TX(I'm outside New Orleans-so it would be the same)
They show price in KG
10kg=60E but a rifle is so long bulky -can't imagine it wouldn't be more than $70 ??
Thanks
Charlie

[Oldgringo]

Old Gringo
Great shooting! Hope you heal quickly.
Quick question
I just checked Krale Schie…
Their price on the HW97 -plain wood stock
is 360E but outside the EU it is just 297E since they deduct the VAT -
so about $330 current rate.

How much was shipping to TX(I'm outside New Orleans-so it would be the same)
They show price in KG
10kg=60E but a rifle is so long bulky -can't imagine it wouldn't be more than $70 ??
Thanks
Charlie

Your best bet is to go through the drill of ordering it.  You'll run across a $61 (?) shipping charge.  What you won't see is the 3-4% non-domestic charge your CC will charge you and you won't see the 1.10 (+/-) currency conversion charge until you get your bill or monitor your CC account. 

Just go through the ordering drill.  You'll get to a Euro bottom line.  You can stop there if you wish.

[phoebeisis]

Got it-
so another $15 to the CC folks-good to know
Thanks
Charlie

[Oneshotwillie]

I was hearing there were some good deals in air guns across the sea so I asked about the cost of a TX 200 HC in American dollars and here is the response I received.  I also asked about shipping it to the great state of Texas!
At Pyramyd Air:
A Beech is 629.99 at
Walnut is 729.99
Shipping Free


Hello Alex,

The price of this is € 739,00 for a walnut version and € 630,00 for a beech version. The cost of shipping to the US is € 61.94.

Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,

Gerrit Krale

Krale Schietsport
Burg. v/d Walstraat 19
7951AK  Staphorst
T 0522 461284
F 084 7391543
E gerrit@krale-schietsport.nl
I  www.krale-schietsport.nl

[bmb]

Wow, thanks for all the responses.
Greg, hope you heal well and fast. Nice shooting.
I don't currently hunt and if I did my .20 sheridan would be my choice.
I would be using it for bench duty target shooting. 10 yards to as far as I can accurately shoot it. The longer the range the less opportunities I have. As far as power, if I bought a 460 I would go .177 and put a softer spring kit in it.
I guess my main curiosity is about overall quality/value. Is one so much better that even a novice would notice the difference?

[Josan]

I was hearing there were some good deals in air guns across the sea so I asked about the cost of a TX 200 HC in American dollars and here is the response I received.  I also asked about shipping it to the great state of Texas!
At Pyramyd Air:
A Beech is 629.99 at
Walnut is 729.99
Shipping Free


Hello Alex,

The price of this is € 739,00 for a walnut version and € 630,00 for a beech version. The cost of shipping to the US is € 61.94.

Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,

Gerrit Krale

Krale Schietsport
Burg. v/d Walstraat 19
7951AK  Staphorst
T 0522 461284
F 084 7391543
E gerrit@krale-schietsport.nl
I  www.krale-schietsport.nl

The Beeman HW97k in beech however is $630 at Pyramid Air. At Krale Schietsport it is 360 euro, say $400. So that's a different story.

[phoebeisis]

And the HW97 is listed at 360 E

But once you click USA BUYER
The VAT of 63 E is deducted
so it is 297 E- or  1.1x 300=$330
Plus the 3-4% credit card fee for not domestic $15

so about $330+$15 non domestic CC + $65(S)= $410 delivered
AT LEAST $200 less delivered

Now impossible to return it-but for $210 I would take that chance every time
Not as if it is a low end rifle
This rifle-should shoot just fine right out of the box

My 460 -shot better than I can-after just running one dry swab down barrel-and loading it with cheap light lead free pellets
I didn't check screws -nothing-just made sure the barrel wasn't obstructed-and bang bang bang

After I checked the screws-they were all FIRMLY seated-

And HW97s are considered a Slightly higher end than RWS-DIANA??
So  $200 is easily worth "no after the sale hands on support"-safe bet they will email support-

My next SS-2nd wednesday of month-is very close to being $410 short on arrival

[Josan]

I have no ties to this company but Krale has been voted the best supplier in The Netherlands for the 3rd consecutive year by the best known Dutch airgunners forum.

And who needs warranty on a Weihrauch?   This is not your average chinese production quality and quality control.  You might be very unlucky and have transport damage, but trust me, they pack their stuff well. Not likely.

[Oldgringo]

I have no ties to this company but Krale has been voted the best supplier in The Netherlands for the 3rd consecutive year by the best known Dutch airgunners forum.

And who needs warranty on a Weihrauch?   This is not your average chinese production quality and quality control.  You might be very unlucky and have transport damage, but trust me, they pack their stuff well. Not likely.

10-4 on the packaging.

[phoebeisis]

Krale
Surprising to USA-E-INS like me
KRALE is  a BIG TIME fireams dealer-all sorts of firearms-"hi cap autos" "Assault Rifles" everything you would find in a Texas gun dealer
but a wider variety-
lotta $3500 anschutz 22's etc
$1300 Sig 226's etc
but plenty of S&W's too
HUGE variety

Obviously they speak gun