Got my 95 Vortex .22 back from Hatsan USA repair today

[GD Giles]

Thanks, I've got some 16 and even 19gr pellets. Hey, I think I just bought at Hatsan AT44 that used to belong to you!

[Old Corps]

Yogi--I'm another guy with the rear stock screw that refuses to stay tight. I've cleaned both sets of threads with acetone and applied locktite (let it cure for at least 24 hours) three different times and it still loosens up. Your post caught my eye because I put Vibratite on my wish list at Amazon a couple of days ago. Next time I order from them I'll get it to try. Sure hope that does the job!

Ed

[SteveP-52]

Just an FYI, but when you bought the Hatsan Factory Bullet Proofing Service, they sent your rifle to Hatsan for it and very likely why when you sent it back under the warranty, it went to HatsanUSA, not AGPS. You should have a 1 year warranty with that service if I read their website correctly, so any issues, Hatsan takes care of.

[GD Giles]

When I bought the gun it shipped from AGPS in AZ so that's where the Factory Bulletproof would have happened. The Hatsan USA repair happened in AR as that's where the gun was shipped and then sent back to me. Realistically, that alone saved me about 4 days or more of the gun just riding in the back of a brown truck.   Maybe that's why they do it that way; get it turned around faster for the customer?

[Gut2Fish]

I believe Airgun Pro does it's own tuning service. I mean, they've got their own videos on it with their banner and Pyramyd Air logos in background and same non Hatsan USA tech doing the work.

[GD Giles]

Yeah, I'm certain they do it themselves.

So, just for fun I wanted to compare the video I made of when the gun was firing slow to the one I put in the original post in this thread when it came back and I was testing it. What struck me is the audible difference in cocking the gun. With the repaired gun in the first video you can hear a noise that's almost like a nylon jacket rubbing against itself. In this video, where the gun is broken/damaged seal, that noise is gone and it's jut metallic clicks. I never would have thought to listen to the gun for a problem. It's funny I didn't notice that change whenever the seal became damaged. I guess there's one more thing to check when it starts going south. Are the screws tight? Does it sound the same?

[SteveP-52]

Straight from the AGPS website:
 The Bullet Proofing service, performed by Hatsan USA Service Technicians, may add an additional 2 weeks to process as it will be tested, bullet proofed, and then retested. You will receive email updates throughout the process.

AGPS tunes rifles but they don't do the Bullet Proof service which, at least according to this, is done by the techs at HatsanUSA. You can read the whole of it here and it's why your rifle went to HatsanUSA, not AGPS.
You can read all of it here:
http://www.airgunproshop.com/airgun-services/airgun-tuning-bulletproof-hatsan-refurbished-airgun/

[GD Giles]

I read that when I bought the gun and I inferred that the service tech was located at AGPS. If you're suggesting that AGPS has no one, or, doesn't actually do the Bulletproofing then how was it performed on my gun? Was it performed on my gun?

[Old Corps]

The way I read AGPS's statement Hatsan USA does the "bullet proofing" at their location---that's why it takes 2 weeks longer for one to receive their rifle when they choose this service. IMO every one of those steps listed should be performed on a "refurbished" rifle to begin with but that's just me. What the #@*& do they do to refurbish one without someone paying for it  to "bullet proofed".
Glad your 95 is performing well now Glen but it should have been from the beginning, especially having paid that much for that service.

Ed

[GD Giles]

If that's the case, mine was never Bulletproofed. I paid and it shipped to me from AZ within 24 hours of payment.

[Yogi]

The way I read AGPS's statement Hatsan USA does the "bullet proofing" at their location---that's why it takes 2 weeks longer for one to receive their rifle when they choose this service. IMO every one of those steps listed should be performed on a "refurbished" rifle to begin with but that's just me. What the #@*& do they do to refurbish one without someone paying for it  to "bullet proofed".
Glad your 95 is performing well now Glen but it should have been from the beginning, especially having paid that much for that service.

Ed

Amen
-Y

[beachgunner]

Glen,

Glad you got the rifle back. I agree that you should keep to open sights for now. Under 25 yards, that is all you need for pest control and target shooting. You might be surprised how accurate you can be with that set up. At least break it in a while that way if you do choose to scope it down the road.

[packard8]

If that's the case, mine was never Bulletproofed. I paid and it shipped to me from AZ within 24 hours of payment.

Just a theory, but maybe AGPS stocks a few guns that have already been "bulletproofed' by Hatsan? If so, it would account for the immediate shipment from AZ. 

[GD Giles]

I think AGPS has Hatsan factory techs on site, or at least one that's certified.

[SteveP-52]

If that's the case, mine was never Bulletproofed. I paid and it shipped to me from AZ within 24 hours of payment.

Just a theory, but maybe AGPS stocks a few guns that have already been "bulletproofed' by Hatsan? If so, it would account for the immediate shipment from AZ.

+1 to this...I would think that any place that sells Hatsan refurbs has to get them from Hatsan, sooo...someone returns a rifle for whatever reason, that rifle gets returned to Hatsan, a Hatsan tech tears it down, cleans it up, checks everything, pops a couple new Hatsan seals on it, lubes it up, puts it back together and sends it off to their QA dept who shoots and chronies it to make sure it's shooting right, then boxes it up and sends it back out.
As far as a for real tuning job, the only way to find out if was honed, deburred, polished and all the rest would be having a tuner tear the rifle apart and look at everything. Since you bought the Bullet Proofing option which now gives you a 1 year warranty compared to most refurbs getting a 30 day from the seller, any issues you have, AGPS has the rifle sent direct to Hatsan because as Hatsan is famous for saying, if you open the rifle, you void the warranty and AGPS being an outside service, they won't touch it.
Just my own personal theory but you got the rifle way too fast for for it to have gone back to Hatsan to be completely gone through as stated on the AGPS site.

[GD Giles]

I don't know how long it takes someone to do a Hatsan Factory Bulletproof service. 2 hours? 6 hours? Let's be honest; AGPS only has about 30 guns in stock so it's not like they're some big operation. It could very much be that the day I bought my 95 the tech had nothing on his bench and was able to service mine right away. Fwiw, I was prepared to wait up to 2 weeks. I was surprised when I got a shipping notice about 24 hours after I bought it.

[OnlyHalfRight]

Glad they got you sorted out!

[wll2506]

Glad you got your gun back, it seems that you are getting very good velocity, very nice.

IMHO, around 800 fps in a barrel breaker in .22 is very good.... a few years ago that speed in a .177 was considered a magnum using a medium weight pellet. In the last few years airgun technology has gone crazy !

wll