Xisico XS46U

[mtbdrew]

Finally got one of these for Christmas this year, thanks to the wife for that. Big shout out to Mike at Flying Dragon Air Rifles. The said he was very helpful and had the gun in the post well in time for on time delivery. Thanks Mike.

I've been wanting a .22 under lever ever since I got a TF99 in .177 and converted it to gas ram. Intention was to immediately convert the XS46U to gas ram as well so ordered the lower powered Crosman piston and other parts needed to do the conversion.

Quick comparison between the TF99 and XS46U. These are similar internally but cosmetically very different. The TF99 has a better looking and feeling stock as well as a smoother cocking action even with the more powerful gas ram installed. The XS46U has a far better trigger and cocking lever lock-up mechanism and the general fit and finish is tighter on this gun. The Weaver rail is also a definite plus.
Both guns suffer from barrel droop and require the scope to be shimmed. Also they both have issues with getting the anti-bear trap to work regularly. 

I've done the conversion to gas ram already and the gun shots very smoothly already and should get even smoother after the break-in rounds are shot through it. i went with the lighter Crosman gas ram on this as I have the Titan and was looking for something a little less hold sensitive and a general all around pinking/pesting rifle.   
Will need to chrony this with various pellets but so far it makes a pretty good thunk in the target box and has already claimed its first HOSP. Poor fellow wondered in while I was sighting the scope in. 

[T191032]

"Both guns suffer from barrel droop and require the scope to be shimmed. "

That's nice to know.

Here's mine.  It's a TF-99M in .22 caliber.  Was shooting it @ 50 yards this past year (first I'd ever tried that, mind you), the iron sights ran out of adjustment, put a Williams FP-AG on it, it's setting at the bottom hash mark last I tried.  Grouped pretty well at 20-25 yards.  Not even going to a scope was getting me on paper at 50 with it.  But the Gamo Shadow 1000, yup, with a little holdover.  LOL

[mtbdrew]

"Both guns suffer from barrel droop and require the scope to be shimmed. "

That's nice to know.

Here's mine.  It's a TF-99M in .22 caliber.  Was shooting it @ 50 yards this past year (first I'd ever tried that, mind you), the iron sights ran out of adjustment, put a Williams FP-AG on it, it's setting at the bottom hash mark last I tried.  Grouped pretty well at 20-25 yards.  Not even going to a scope was getting me on paper at 50 with it.  But the Gamo Shadow 1000, yup, with a little holdover.  LOL

I converted my TF99 to gas ram and put a Bugbuster 6x scope on it. It prefers the .177 10.3grn heavy AA pellets. Business card under the scope of the rear ring which allows plenty of adjust at 40 yard center. Longest shot made is 70 yards on a HOSP but 40 - 50 is pretty standard. The gun is a little hold sensitive but when I do my part it is very accurate. Well worth the $99 I paid for it and the $30+ parts for the conversion. Only thing it really needs is a trigger job. The Xisico XS46U really out shines the TF99 when it comes to the trigger.

[Mikeflys]

Both guns suffer from barrel droop and require the scope to be shimmed. Also they both have issues with getting the anti-bear trap to work regularly. 

I have no trouble with either of these issue on mine. No barrel droop whatsoever. And I have never had the anti-bear trap fail. The only problem I have ever had was just the screws working loose after the 1st month. I learned my lesson and check the screws every now and again. My XS46U is just about my favorite gun.

[Mr. Panther]

I'm thinking about getting a XS46U soon from Mike. I like underlever guns since I got my first B-3.  O f course they are much better than any B-3, and I like the accuracy of an underlever. I am undecided about getting a tune on t though, did yours come tuned or did you do that when you converted it?

[grimeszee]

Get the full tune from Mike and you won't believe it. My XS46U is so smooth and the trigger is awesome. Mike is a master tuner of these guns, and worth ever penny of the extra cost. Stay with the high performance spring that comes with the full tune.

[Mikeflys]

Get the full tune from Mike and you won't believe it. My XS46U is so smooth and the trigger is awesome. Mike is a master tuner of these guns, and worth ever penny of the extra cost. Stay with the high performance spring that comes with the full tune.

Yup, full tune is the way to go! Mike Rocks!

[bmb]

Full Tune for sure.  It's worth the price just for the better warranty. Not only that, Mike knows these guns. He knows what, where, and how much when tuning them. It would cost you almost as much to buy the parts and do it yourself.

[avator]

Got a couple XS-25 full tuners from Mike last year. He de-tuned Betty Lou's for easier cocking.. We've never scoped them. We have 2 sets of resetting flippers 1 1/2" x 1 1/2" paddles. At 25yds with .22 Daisy Wadcutters, we rarely miss. And ohhh, what a SMACK !!! Mike makes magic with these Chinese guns. Talk to him.. tell him what you want a gun for and send him $200... let him do the rest and enjoy.

[mtbdrew]

Update.

After putting several tins of various 22 pellets I felt it was time to update this post. With the low powered gas ram I could get any pellets group better that 4" at 40 yards so swapped out for the standard power Crosman gas ram. Groups improved but still getting a lot of fliers even though ES for 15 and 18 grn pellets was 12. All pellets were hard to load until break was cleaned up with a countersink bit. Pushing a pellet through shows there is a very bad choke point right after the breach. Once cleared of this choke point the rifling is very loose all the way out the barrel. Guess that is why the heavier pellets are giving the best grouping. Still need to work on getting the tight choke point at the breach smoothed out and maybe getting the muzzle choke.
Had to bend the barrel up in order to center any scope but even still the pellets shoot very low. Will have to redo the crown as my previous method was less than pretty to say the least.
Cocking is still gritty and no easy fix as the spacer usually used on break barrels is not possible due to the odd layout of the rifles cocking arm.
If I had it to do again I would either get the TF99 in 22 instead or have ordered the full tune from Mike. Though I lean more to the TF99 route than the extra cost for the tuning.

[grimeszee]

The extra cost of the MM full tune is worth every penny, I will not order any gun from FD without it. I shoot 3/8" groups at 30 yards with H&N FTT .22 cal pellets.

[lefteyeshot]

 When I bought it off the GTA classified guy said it was a TF 97 but it's got the long stock. I think it's a 99. Hadn't shot it in awhile. The anti-bear trap was working but the little release lever wasn't engaging. Little oil fixed that and it's shooting great The zero was still close and holes were touching at 25 yards with the scope except one about 1/16" out. Have see-thru mounts on it, same thing with the open sights holes touching at 25. Trigger is ok as is. Put a better scope on it and I'm gonna' zero tomorrow. I'm Re-discovering this old gun I've had for a couple of years.

[mtbdrew]

The extra cost of the MM full tune is worth every penny, I will not order any gun from FD without it. I shoot 3/8" groups at 30 yards with H&N FTT .22 cal pellets.

I don't doubt that. But I like doing what I can myself and as I intended replacing the spring with a gas ram anyway.... That said if you don't like to tinker then going with the full tune is well worth the investment.