Hey 95 owners, trigger bolt backing out on you?

[Old Corps]

I picked up some closed cell foam off ebay sometime back with the thought of soft bedding my Vantage. The Vantage settled down so I never proceeded with the bedding thing. I might try it with the 95 but it really doesn't feel like it shoots harshly at all. I don't have a lot of faith in it doing any good but I've sure been wrong before.

Ed

[GD Giles]

The thing that would make me nervous about removing the stock on the 95 is the front bolt. I hear it's pretty soft and easy to strip the heads. That would not be a fun thing to experience. On a lighter note, I guess, my 95 reached Hatsan repair today in shipping. So I guess it'll have the weekend to sit and reacquaint itself with all it's Hatsan brethren. 

[robertr]

 You should think about getting a bit and driver set made for firearms use. Much better than using regular screwdrivers. The bits fit nice and tight with less chance of slippage.

[GD Giles]

Is there a recommended place to purchase that?

[robertr]

 I bought my set at Cabelas but any firearms shop should have them.

[Old Corps]

The thing that would make me nervous about removing the stock on the 95 is the front bolt. I hear it's pretty soft and easy to strip the heads. That would not be a fun thing to experience. On a lighter note, I guess, my 95 reached Hatsan repair today in shipping. So I guess it'll have the weekend to sit and reacquaint itself with all it's Hatsan brethren.

Right you are on that. I've all ready chewed up that small screw head. Picked up an allen head replacement and put lock tite on it. I went to check it's tightness and can't turn it in any more so expect it to get chewed up on the way out as well. I've had years & years of experience dealing with small fasteners on motorcycles without messing them up. In my opinion that screw head size is too small to withstand much torgue. (The allen head is very small as well.)

Ed

[Oldman1151]

The thing that would make me nervous about removing the stock on the 95 is the front bolt. I hear it's pretty soft and easy to strip the heads. That would not be a fun thing to experience. On a lighter note, I guess, my 95 reached Hatsan repair today in shipping. So I guess it'll have the weekend to sit and reacquaint itself with all it's Hatsan brethren.

Right you are on that. I've all ready chewed up that small screw head. Picked up an allen head replacement and put lock tite on it. I went to check it's tightness and can't turn it in any more so expect it to get chewed up on the way out as well. I've had years & years of experience dealing with small fasteners on motorcycles without messing them up. In my opinion that screw head size is too small to withstand much torgue. (The allen head is very small as well.)

Ed

That screw is definitely an accident waiting to happen for that gun if you want to remove the stock. What is the thread pitch on that screw and what length replacement allen head did you buy?

[Old Corps]

The thing that would make me nervous about removing the stock on the 95 is the front bolt. I hear it's pretty soft and easy to strip the heads. That would not be a fun thing to experience. On a lighter note, I guess, my 95 reached Hatsan repair today in shipping. So I guess it'll have the weekend to sit and reacquaint itself with all it's Hatsan brethren.

Right you are on that. I've all ready chewed up that small screw head. Picked up an allen head replacement and put lock tite on it. I went to check it's tightness and can't turn it in any more so expect it to get chewed up on the way out as well. I've had years & years of experience dealing with small fasteners on motorcycles without messing them up. In my opinion that screw head size is too small to withstand much torgue. (The allen head is very small as well.)

Ed

That screw is definitely an accident waiting to happen for that gun if you want to remove the stock. What is the thread pitch on that screw and what length replacement allen head did you buy?

I have the original and a spare allen head one which I'm sure I'll need but I just had a full knee replacement and I can't hobble to where they are. I'll get mama to get 'em for me tomorrow and let you know.

Ed

[Yogi]

I second getting a gunsmithing set of tools...
I have the Chapman 7331 set.  They have dozens of different sets.  This one has all the sizes that I need.
Also, recommend getting an extra set of front and rear stock mounting bolts.  Cheap and something that Hatsan will sell you.
-Y

[Gut2Fish]

I think the erroneous data from crony was due to shooting too close to it. A good 5 to 10 ft distance will give no error message or odd data gained from air blast.

Glad you sent the gun back. I'd not have spent much time on it after having the tuning service done. It why you paid for the tuning service so there would be no problem. It's there problem not yours.

For tightening scopes something to keep in mind is to only use the small end of allen key to turn. That way you can't apply too much pressure and actually damage the scope. 18 ft-lbs is what scope rings are tightened to. If you hold the long end of allen key you'll easily make 30 ft-lbs and if crimp scope any void warranty. Hold small end and use lock-tite.

If you look you can find ubber sized screw drivers. I've some old tools from father and there were a few large head drivers that worked perfectly for front stock screw. Tuned my gun without gunsmith tools and didn't scratch it or strip anything. Work slow and think twice before doing and work over a thick towel is all you need. In your case Glen, you don't need to do anything as the tune is warrantied 

[Old Corps]

The thing that would make me nervous about removing the stock on the 95 is the front bolt. I hear it's pretty soft and easy to strip the heads. That would not be a fun thing to experience. On a lighter note, I guess, my 95 reached Hatsan repair today in shipping. So I guess it'll have the weekend to sit and reacquaint itself with all it's Hatsan brethren.

Right you are on that. I've all ready chewed up that small screw head. Picked up an allen head replacement and put lock tite on it. I went to check it's tightness and can't turn it in any more so expect it to get chewed up on the way out as well. I've had years & years of experience dealing with small fasteners on motorcycles without messing them up. In my opinion that screw head size is too small to withstand much torgue. (The allen head is very small as well.)

Ed

That screw is definitely an accident waiting to happen for that gun if you want to remove the stock. What is the thread pitch on that screw and what length replacement allen head did you buy?

I have the original and a spare allen head one which I'm sure I'll need but I just had a full knee replacement and I can't hobble to where they are. I'll get mama to get 'em for me tomorrow and let you know.

Ed

The OEM screw is a 3mmX5mm length with a star type lock washer that stays attached.

The replacement button head allen I used is a 3mm by about 7mm, the shortest they had. I put a star lock washer under it. After measuring it I'm thinking that I should have put 2 washers under it. It's possible the replacement may be bottoming out a bit to soon, not tightening the "nut" enough. I'm not 100% but I think the pitch is .50. Hope this helps.
Ed

[robertr]

That way you can't apply too much pressure and actually damage the scope. 18 ft-lbs is what scope rings are tightened to. If you hold the long end of allen key you'll easily make 30 ft-lbs and if crimp scope any void warranty. Hold small end and use lock-tite.

Gut2fish, don't you mean inch/lb ?

[Old Corps]

That way you can't apply too much pressure and actually damage the scope. 18 ft-lbs is what scope rings are tightened to. If you hold the long end of allen key you'll easily make 30 ft-lbs and if crimp scope any void warranty. Hold small end and use lock-tite.

Gut2fish, don't you mean inch/lb ?

+1  I'm sure that's what he meant.

Ed

[Oldman1151]

The thing that would make me nervous about removing the stock on the 95 is the front bolt. I hear it's pretty soft and easy to strip the heads. That would not be a fun thing to experience. On a lighter note, I guess, my 95 reached Hatsan repair today in shipping. So I guess it'll have the weekend to sit and reacquaint itself with all it's Hatsan brethren.

Right you are on that. I've all ready chewed up that small screw head. Picked up an allen head replacement and put lock tite on it. I went to check it's tightness and can't turn it in any more so expect it to get chewed up on the way out as well. I've had years & years of experience dealing with small fasteners on motorcycles without messing them up. In my opinion that screw head size is too small to withstand much torgue. (The allen head is very small as well.)

Ed

That screw is definitely an accident waiting to happen for that gun if you want to remove the stock. What is the thread pitch on that screw and what length replacement allen head did you buy?

I have the original and a spare allen head one which I'm sure I'll need but I just had a full knee replacement and I can't hobble to where they are. I'll get mama to get 'em for me tomorrow and let you know.

Ed

The OEM screw is a 3mmX5mm length with a star type lock washer that stays attached.

The replacement button head allen I used is a 3mm by about 7mm, the shortest they had. I put a star lock washer under it. After measuring it I'm thinking that I should have put 2 washers under it. It's possible the replacement may be bottoming out a bit to soon, not tightening the "nut" enough. I'm not 100% but I think the pitch is .50. Hope this helps.
Ed

That is very helpful. Thanks Ed!

[Old Corps]

Sure would like to find flat screwdrivers with oversize heads like Garrett's Dad left him for the bolt head and nut used at the front of the stock. Hard to get a lot of torque when using only one side of the "slot". I've searched with no luck.

Ed

[Old Corps]

Yer welcome!

[A1A]

So how can you tell exactly how tight to tighten the rear trigger guard bolt?  Mine loosened up after about 75 shots, in fact it almost fell out before I realized it was loose.  I should have realized it because I had noticed that the way the gun was cocking felt different.  I put a drop of blue loktite on it and tightened  the bolt  but I expected it to tighten down like a normal bolt but after tightening it quite a few turns and feeling it tighten somewhat I heard what sounded like wood splintering on the last quarter turn so I backed it out a quarter turn and left it to dry overnight.  That was a couple weeks ago and it hasn't loosened since as far as I can tell.  Not having taken the stock off I'm trying to figure out what tightens down against what?  Is the bolt  tightening the trigger guard against the wooden stock and that's the noise I heard?  I don't think I screwed up the stock since the bolt hasn't loosened, the  gun seems to be shooting fine and I don't get any sense of anything being loose causing more vibration or flex anywhere.  Thanks

[GD Giles]

If it's not moving on you and your groups are tight you're good. I think in my case I just didn't clean the bolt good enough and I certainly didn't clean the threaded hole at all.

[robertr]

One more thing on the loctite, make sure you shake the bottle good before use.

[GD Giles]

My 95 had a failed gas ram. They have no replacement rams or guns to ship me at this time. Trying to get a ball park on when they might be getting more in. This is exactly why I don't buy lottery tickets. I'm not soured on the brand; I have a used Hatsan AT44 PCP on the way to me in a few days but I mean there ARE other ways around this.