Author Topic: Hey 95 owners, trigger bolt backing out on you? (Read 12206 times))

GD Giles · « **Reply #20 on:** December 30, 2015, 10:53:15 AM »

Oh, I think it's a good deal, I just know I am uniquely cursed with air guns.

I have full faith that airgunproshop will sort it out and have it back to me as quick as they can.

GD Giles · « **Reply #21 on:** December 30, 2015, 11:11:32 AM »

In letting my fingers do the walking (how old do you have to be to get that reference?

) no .22's on the used market in town. About half the pawn shops have used pellet guns but all are .177. I just don't want to go back to those tiny pellets.

OnlyHalfRight · « **Reply #22 on:** December 31, 2015, 01:02:53 AM »

Whelp GD we're always in similar boats.

I shipped mine via fedex an hour ago.

Suddenly my groupings went to absolute horse manure last night. I wasnt doing anything different. But i knew something was wrong. Sent it back. I'll be using my Remington for now. I'll get another Hatsan or 3 in the future, but for now I'll take my refund and use my Express.

And yes i checked the screws

GD Giles · « **Reply #23 on:** December 31, 2015, 08:14:10 AM »

Do you have a chrony to check your speed? Are you saying the trigger screw was loose? If nothing else is wrong w/the gun the trigger screw should be able to be tightened up and all should be ok. My gun, from day one, has always been hard to cock, but never owning/shooting an AG this big before, never owning/shooting a gas ram before, I didn't know what to expect. The first weekend I had it I cocked it over 300 times and hurt my left bicep. I had to not shoot it for about 3 days to rest my arm. Then I went to cocking it w/2 hands, much better. But, I'd put the butt of the rifle on my thigh while seated or standing to cock it. That left bruises on my thigh. Apparently that's too much effort for it to cock, so I don't know how long my gun has been acting up. I was never really consistently accurate with it, but would always blame myself for that performance. Maybe it was the the gun.

At any rate, I'm still waiting for my RMA to ship it out. Maybe that will come today.

OnlyHalfRight · « **Reply #24 on:** December 31, 2015, 09:35:45 AM »

Mine has never been hard enough to cock that needed 2 hands. Something was definitely wrong there.

I don't know what the issue is. All my screws were tight.But my groupings from day 1 are drastically diff compared to the previous nights.

Methuselah · « **Reply #25 on:** December 31, 2015, 12:47:01 PM »

Quote from: OnlyHalfRight on December 31, 2015, 09:35:45 AM

Mine has never been hard enough to cock that needed 2 hands. Something was definitely wrong there.

I don't know what the issue is. All my screws were tight.But my groupings from day 1 are drastically diff compared to the previous nights.

I think Glen had said part of his tune was increasing the pressure in the gas ram, no?

His description of getting bruised up cocking it definitely had me believing the effort was not normal ... I'm not big or muscular and cocking the Hatsan 125 is not nearly as big a deal.

Anyway, as folks read through these threads trying to decide if certain makes or models are suitable I hope when problems are discussed it remains clear not all of them are because the factory initially let a bad one get by QC. In Glen's case part of the issues may rest with the folks who did the tune for him. Hopefully they will tell him what they find and not just replace the rifle (and send it back to the factory).

My $.02 --- hopefully Glen will clarify if I got the facts wrong!

GD Giles · « **Reply #26 on:** December 31, 2015, 01:58:45 PM »

I don't know that they did anything to the ram to increase the pressure. It was just a question. According to what the description of the service is they were to replace seals, so if a seal broke it was a brand new seal. I hope I do find out what happened. I'm still waiting on a RMA though.

Old Corps · « **Reply #27 on:** December 31, 2015, 11:31:58 PM »

Neither my 95 or Edge are hard to cock and I'm an old fart. My XL1100, now that's better done with two hands--at least if I'm gonna shoot it for any length of time.

Ed

GD Giles · « **Reply #28 on:** January 04, 2016, 09:38:08 PM »

I hit 11 pawn shops over 3 days and found nothing that I wanted to buy. Most didn't even have any air rifles. A couple only had new ones. .22 was very hard to find. Still waiting on my RMA from Hatsan.....

bebanovich · « **Reply #29 on:** January 04, 2016, 09:54:28 PM »

Quote from: GD Giles on January 04, 2016, 09:38:08 PM

I hit 11 pawn shops over 3 days and found nothing that I wanted to buy. Most didn't even have any air rifles. A couple only had new ones. .22 was very hard to find. Still waiting on my RMA from Hatsan.....

I'm just curious why .22 is important to you for a back-up shooter? I know you have had .177 in the past but I'm just wondering what you feel is lacking from that caliber. I know this might sound like a pointed question but it's really just simple curiosity. I got the Hatsan in .22, as well but have been thinking about a .177 back-up gun that I could use to teach myself to tear down and . . . well . . . likely ruin.

GD Giles · « **Reply #30 on:** January 04, 2016, 10:34:17 PM »

I've shot .177 since the 70's and feel I've covered that ground. Also, I don't want to start doubling up on ammo. When I go PCP it will also be .22 although I know I'll have get some heavier lead for that. But, I hope when I dial it down it can still use the pellets I'm using for the Hatsan.

A1A · « **Reply #31 on:** January 04, 2016, 10:52:46 PM »

I'm just curious how a defective stock can make the rear trigger guard screw come loose? Basically what area of the stock would be defective to cause this? Thanks

bebanovich · « **Reply #32 on:** January 04, 2016, 11:05:40 PM »

Quote from: GD Giles on January 04, 2016, 10:34:17 PM

I've shot .177 since the 70's and feel I've covered that ground. Also, I don't want to start doubling up on ammo. When I go PCP it will also be .22 although I know I'll have get some heavier lead for that. But, I hope when I dial it down it can still use the pellets I'm using for the Hatsan.

Makes sense. Thanks.

Old Corps · « **Reply #33 on:** January 06, 2016, 11:20:24 PM »

Quote from: GD Giles on December 28, 2015, 06:37:38 PM

So, the last time I checked the screws, yesterday, they were tight. Shot for another half hour or so and then checked it again today. It was loose again. Will clean again and do it all over.

Hey Glen--Just so you don't feel alone, I'm experiencing the same problem with that #@&* screw. I've cleaned both sets of threads with alcohol, then with acetone and applied locktite and that sucker keeps loosening up over and over. Yeah, I let the locktite cure for a day or longer. I actually put an allen head bolt in there to get a better grip on it. No joy. The shot cycle is smooth, she's shoots right on the money for anywhere between 12 and 25 shots then the nice tight groups go to #@** and I know it's loose again. VERY frustrating!

May be I need to weld it in place.

Ed

GD Giles · « **Reply #34 on:** January 06, 2016, 11:29:30 PM »

This is just an ongoing problem for all kinds of brands at various levels of guns. I was looking at getting a Weilrauch 95 but I've read folks who have the exact same issue. So here's a German gun that cost 3 times as much as mine and it's backing it's screws out too. Can't get to the PCP world fast enough. Of course then I'll just inherit whatever common perils they deal with.

Old Corps · « **Reply #35 on:** January 06, 2016, 11:48:53 PM »

You've got a point but none of my Benji/Crosman rifles loosen up their screws like the Hatsans and that includes my XL1100 which is definitely a magnum. I'm thinking the source of the problem may be the small surface area that the screw (or bolt) head contacts in the stock.

Who knows, but this is, as you said, nuts!

Ed

robertr · « **Reply #36 on:** January 07, 2016, 12:57:17 AM »

Maybe try softbedding it, I softbedded my 350 Magnum and since I did it I don't bother putting locktite on the screws anymore and they don't come loose. There is still some residual locktite on the screws so that probably helps. Can't hurt to try it.

GD Giles · « **Reply #37 on:** January 07, 2016, 07:31:26 AM »

That is certainly something worth investigating. I have a vague concept of what that is but not sure; I'll do some searching here. I'm not sure what the purposed behind soft bedding is either, but I know some here have done it and it helped for whatever reason they were wanting to try it.

robertr · « **Reply #38 on:** January 07, 2016, 09:18:15 AM »

Here is the link if you did not find it. http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=66631.0

GD Giles · « **Reply #39 on:** January 07, 2016, 11:01:24 AM »

excellent. Thank you very much.

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Hey 95 owners, trigger bolt backing out on you?

Author Topic: Hey 95 owners, trigger bolt backing out on you? (Read 12206 times))