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SpiralGroove
Ruminating Perfectionist !!!
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>The gun's gotta look good and shoot straight ->
Real Name: Kirk
Performance Unsing Old Co2 Cartridge
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on:
November 29, 2015, 06:21:56 PM »
Hey Co2 "Users",
A friend gave me some older Crosman Co2 cartridges
However, when shooting my Son's QB78 (.177), at 13 yards, the gun is not consistent
.
Now the cartridges could be upwards of 5 to 10 years old. Could the age of the cartridges be the reason for accuracy issues? Or should I look elsewhere?
Kirk
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Bothell, WA
PCP's:
AR2079A-HPA (.177)
AR2079A-HPA (.22)
BSA R10 (.177) Huma Regulated
RAW HM1000x LRT Camo - (.20) + .177, .22 Barrels
RAW HM1000x LRT RED - (.25)
RAW HM1000x LRT Blue - (.22) + .25 Barrel
QB78 (.177) OEM
Pumper's:
1973 Benjamin Franklin 342
1984 Benjamin Franklin 347
Springer's:
Beeman R9 (.20) - Circa 2019
Beeman R10 (.20) - Circa 1988
HW30S (.177)
HW35E (2) - Blued (.177)
HW35E - Silver (.177)
HW50S - Blued (.177)
HW50S - Silver (.177)
HW80S (.20)
HW80SLK (.177) (.20)
HW95 Hybrid (HW98 stock) (.177)
DOKF
Backyard
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Posts: 1255
My Ding Dong Squirrel Alarm
Real Name: Kim
Re: Performance Unsing Old Co2 Cartridge
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Reply #1 on:
November 29, 2015, 06:26:26 PM »
It is possible that the cartridge seals may have allowed some CO
2
to leak out, but the CO
2
itself will not have deteriorated.
What type of inconsistencies are you noticing?
Logged
Beaverton, OR
The dog gets excited every time I reach for a rifle or rattle a pellet tin. Squirrels get nervous!
Webley Patriot (the "Turk") 0.25, tuned
Benj NP XL 0.25 GRT, tuned
RWS 350 0.22 T06, Vortek PG2 kit tuned
RWS 460 0.22 T06, Vortek PG2 kit tuned
Benj NP XL 0.22 GRT, tuned
Benj NP2 0.22 CBR from Gene, tuned
Crosman NV 0.22 GRT, tuned
Crosman NV 0.177, tuned
Crosman Optimus 0.177 (On a Walkabout)
Baikal 512 0.177
Crosman 1377
Benj Trail NP 0.177, tuned
SpiralGroove
Ruminating Perfectionist !!!
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Posts: 7240
>The gun's gotta look good and shoot straight ->
Real Name: Kirk
Re: Performance Unsing Old Co2 Cartridge
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Reply #2 on:
November 29, 2015, 08:37:12 PM »
Groupings are at about 1.5" at 13 yards
I cleaned the barrel very well and did notice some rusting. Barrel has one rough spot that can be felt with the patch about 1/2 way down, but I can't image it could affect accuracy that much.
Otherwise the gun is OEM; never been touched.
Kirk
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Bothell, WA
PCP's:
AR2079A-HPA (.177)
AR2079A-HPA (.22)
BSA R10 (.177) Huma Regulated
RAW HM1000x LRT Camo - (.20) + .177, .22 Barrels
RAW HM1000x LRT RED - (.25)
RAW HM1000x LRT Blue - (.22) + .25 Barrel
QB78 (.177) OEM
Pumper's:
1973 Benjamin Franklin 342
1984 Benjamin Franklin 347
Springer's:
Beeman R9 (.20) - Circa 2019
Beeman R10 (.20) - Circa 1988
HW30S (.177)
HW35E (2) - Blued (.177)
HW35E - Silver (.177)
HW50S - Blued (.177)
HW50S - Silver (.177)
HW80S (.20)
HW80SLK (.177) (.20)
HW95 Hybrid (HW98 stock) (.177)
DOKF
Backyard
Expert
Posts: 1255
My Ding Dong Squirrel Alarm
Real Name: Kim
Re: Performance Unsing Old Co2 Cartridge
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Reply #3 on:
November 29, 2015, 10:21:00 PM »
Curious ...
Do you have some new cartridges to try as comparison?
Logged
Beaverton, OR
The dog gets excited every time I reach for a rifle or rattle a pellet tin. Squirrels get nervous!
Webley Patriot (the "Turk") 0.25, tuned
Benj NP XL 0.25 GRT, tuned
RWS 350 0.22 T06, Vortek PG2 kit tuned
RWS 460 0.22 T06, Vortek PG2 kit tuned
Benj NP XL 0.22 GRT, tuned
Benj NP2 0.22 CBR from Gene, tuned
Crosman NV 0.22 GRT, tuned
Crosman NV 0.177, tuned
Crosman Optimus 0.177 (On a Walkabout)
Baikal 512 0.177
Crosman 1377
Benj Trail NP 0.177, tuned
floydlong
When the little boy in me leaves, this ol' man will surely die
Sharp Shooter
Posts: 694
Real Name: Floyd
Re: Performance Unsing Old Co2 Cartridge
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Reply #4 on:
November 29, 2015, 11:19:02 PM »
That rough spot CAN and will cause accuracy issues. Get it out whatever way you can. There are others who will chime in on methods to remove it.
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Central Louisiana
Down to these:
Daisy 880 X2 with Hammers 3-9X32 scopes
Xisco XS12 with Hawk 4X32 scope
Benjamin Maximus .177 on CO2 w/ Hammers 3-9X40 scope
Crosman 2400KT .177 LW barrel with Leapers 6X32 scope
Crosman 2400KT .22 with Hammers 3-9X32 scope
Crosman Vigilante pistol
Daisy 1200 pistol
SpiralGroove
Ruminating Perfectionist !!!
GTA Senior Contributor
Posts: 7240
>The gun's gotta look good and shoot straight ->
Real Name: Kirk
Re: Performance Unsing Old Co2 Cartridge
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Reply #5 on:
December 02, 2015, 10:44:54 PM »
Hey floydlong,
Where are those other guys
Logged
Bothell, WA
PCP's:
AR2079A-HPA (.177)
AR2079A-HPA (.22)
BSA R10 (.177) Huma Regulated
RAW HM1000x LRT Camo - (.20) + .177, .22 Barrels
RAW HM1000x LRT RED - (.25)
RAW HM1000x LRT Blue - (.22) + .25 Barrel
QB78 (.177) OEM
Pumper's:
1973 Benjamin Franklin 342
1984 Benjamin Franklin 347
Springer's:
Beeman R9 (.20) - Circa 2019
Beeman R10 (.20) - Circa 1988
HW30S (.177)
HW35E (2) - Blued (.177)
HW35E - Silver (.177)
HW50S - Blued (.177)
HW50S - Silver (.177)
HW80S (.20)
HW80SLK (.177) (.20)
HW95 Hybrid (HW98 stock) (.177)
sr1sws
Sharp Shooter
Posts: 533
yes
Real Name: Steve
Re: Performance Unsing Old Co2 Cartridge
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Reply #6 on:
December 03, 2015, 07:21:19 PM »
Quote from: SpiralGroove on December 02, 2015, 10:44:54 PM
Hey floydlong,
Where are those other guys
Well, if it was mine, I might fill the bore with Evaporust followed by JB Bore Paste.
Steve
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Tampa, FL
.177 Crosman 147 ca. 1963 - original owner
.177 Remington Vantage NP - sold
.177 Benjamin Trail NP pistol - sold
.177 Benjamin Discovery + TKO, Hawke Sport HD 3-9x40mm
.177 Crosman 2300kt + TKO, Walther MRS Reflex
.177 Benjamin Marauder/SynRod Gen II - Regulated, WAR TSS, UTG SWAT 30mm 3-12x44
.177 QB79 + Ninja Pro SHP V2 Regulated Bottle, UTG SWAT 30mm 3-12x44, DIY Half-Shroud
Ribbonstone
GTA Senior Contributor
Posts: 12030
Re: Performance Unsing Old Co2 Cartridge
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Reply #7 on:
December 03, 2015, 07:44:41 PM »
Really really old co2 cartridges have a kind of beer-bottle-cap crimped on seal...they'll be the ones to leak. Wasn't uncommon to find "dead" ones brand new. Modern ones (and I guess "modern" means the ones in the last 30 years) are better sealed and much less likely to leak.
If you are paranoid about "off brand" 12gr., can get their weight before your use them (kitchen/diet scape works fine), Marks-a-lot the weight on the side, hold onto them once you've used them, and get their weight empty. Will find some brands are evidently not filled with 12gr. of gas...more like 9.5-10.
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lefteyeshot
without hope, without fear
GTA Senior Contributor
Posts: 7299
yes
Real Name: Tim
Re: Performance Unsing Old Co2 Cartridge
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Reply #8 on:
December 04, 2015, 12:13:07 AM »
Did you chrony or was it cold?
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