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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: rcmark on June 04, 2015, 04:26:05 PM
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Trigger is perfect.
Cocking is smooth as butter.
Weight is just over 6 and 1/2 pounds.
Quiet.
Stay tuned!
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Hurry up, man... it's been 10 minutes already! ; )
I'm really looking forward to hearing more, and hopefully seeing some pics. Also, could you please post the specs of the gun? They still aren't up at FX's website, or at AoA.
You mentioned the gun is quiet. Do you see baffles within the shroud?
Thanks!
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Sounds nice ;D
Looks like the Impact models are ready to sell too ?
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Here we go :)
Expecting a flood in the next future on all forums :) :)
looking forward to hear it all.
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Hee, hee, hee, o'boy it's here, I've been waiting and waiting. I hope you have a crony!
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Awesome man. Did you get the sweet case that you could get as an add on option? If so can you post pictures? AoA called me today letting me know my .25 Wildcat will be shipping soon and offered me the case but couldn't show me pictures. I really want to see it.
Oh, and what's taking so long with the full review?!?!?!?! Hurry up man, we're all on the edge of our chairs!! ;)
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Awesome man. Did you get the sweet case that you could get as an add on option? ;)
No
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Bueller???
Bueller???
Bueller???
Come on dude, kick down some info and pictures! We're drooling for some updates! ; )
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First shoot.
Simmons 44 Mag Rifle Scope 6-24 x 44 mm.
JSB Match Diabolo Exact King .25 Cal, 25.39 Grains at 905 fps = 46.19 ft/lbs.
Gun is completely stock!
I have to shoot a couple of tins and I am sure the groups will 'tighten' up!
(http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z429/rcmark/Wildcat.jpg) (http://s1189.photobucket.com/user/rcmark/media/Wildcat.jpg.html)
(http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z429/rcmark/CatCrony1.jpg) (http://s1189.photobucket.com/user/rcmark/media/CatCrony1.jpg.html)
(http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z429/rcmark/CatChrony2.jpg) (http://s1189.photobucket.com/user/rcmark/media/CatChrony2.jpg.html)
50 yards
(http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z429/rcmark/50yards.jpg) (http://s1189.photobucket.com/user/rcmark/media/50yards.jpg.html)
75 yards
(http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z429/rcmark/75yards.jpg) (http://s1189.photobucket.com/user/rcmark/media/75yards.jpg.html)
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Fist shoot.
Simmons 44 Mag Rifle Scope 6-24 x 44 mm.
JSB Match Diabolo Exact King .25 Cal, 25.39 Grains at 905 fps = 46.19 ft/lbs.
Gun is completely stock!
I have to shoot a couple of tins and I am sure the groups will 'tighten' up!
Wow, thank you so much for the Chrony results, Mark! That gun has some amazing air/velocity consistency for 30 consecutive shots! I'm hoping the .22 might get up to 50 shots per fill. And like you said, I'm sure the (already good) groups will tighten up as you get to know the gun better.I'm drooling over this gun!
I have a few direct questions for you:
1. Now that you've had a chance to spend some time with the gun, have you noticed any things that you really like or dislike?
2. What is the air cylinder size?
3. Are there baffles within the shroud?
Thanks again for keeping us updated.
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Fist shoot.
Simmons 44 Mag Rifle Scope 6-24 x 44 mm.
JSB Match Diabolo Exact King .25 Cal, 25.39 Grains at 905 fps = 46.19 ft/lbs.
Gun is completely stock!
I have to shoot a couple of tins and I am sure the groups will 'tighten' up!
Wow, thank you so much for the Chrony results, Mark! That gun has some amazing air/velocity consistency for 30 consecutive shots! I'm hoping the .22 might get up to 50 shots per fill. And like you said, I'm sure the (already good) groups will tighten up as you get to know the gun better.I'm drooling over this gun!
I have a few direct questions for you:
1. Now that you've had a chance to spend some time with the gun, have you noticed any things that you really like or dislike?
2. What is the air cylinder size?
3. Are there baffles within the shroud?
Thanks again for keeping us updated.
1. Like everything.
2, Don't know.
3. None I can see, but it is extremely quiet.
Just ordered a .22!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Just ordered a .22!!!!!!!!!!!!
For me!!! Thanks! I'll PM you my address. ; )
Thanks again for the info. I'll look forward to hearing about the .22 even more.
Enjoy your new toy!
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Mark, don't you have a JKhan .25 bullpup too? How would you compare the two?
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Fist shoot.
Painful. You should have moved your hand away from the muzzle.
Ouch! :o
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Mark, don't you have a JKhan .25 bullpup too? How would you compare the two?
No comparison.
I sold the JKan within 72 hours.
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The Chrony string is VERY interesting. I have a small regulated fill bottle (200 bar) and was wondering how these wildcats would do since they are rated to 250 bar. I was afraid every one would fill to that level and report on chrony and shot count. I would think I could get 30 decent shots with a 200 bar (2900 psi) fill - right?
I'm really interested in this gun. I shot one at the Arkansas air gun show back in April.
Oh, how large are the circles on those targets?
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The Chrony string is VERY interesting. I have a small regulated fill bottle (200 bar) and was wondering how these wildcats would do since they are rated to 250 bar. I was afraid every one would fill to that level and report on chrony and shot count. I would think I could get 30 decent shots with a 200 bar (2900 psi) fill - right?
I'm really interested in this gun. I shot one at the Arkansas air gun show back in April.
Oh, how large are the circles on those targets?
I would think I could get 30 decent shots with a 200 bar (2900 psi) fill - right? - Right!
Oh, how large are the circles on those targets? - That is a penny on the target!
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Mark, don't you have a JKhan .25 bullpup too? How would you compare the two?
No comparison.
I sold the JKan within 72 hours.
I thought you liked it? The review on it was impressive.
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How is the forward mounted cocking lever . Is it comfortable to wotk and how is the trigger ? ? ? ?
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Missed the penny. WOW that a great at 75 yards. More practice or the more liked pellet and great potential.
Thanks
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How is the forward mounted cocking lever . Is it comfortable to wotk and how is the trigger ? ? ? ?
forward mounted cocking lever is great, its exactly in the right place!
One of the best triggers I have shot. You don't need to adjust anything!!
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It's a tad slower than I expected, most manufactures tend to be conservative on the fps numbers.
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Nice gun!!
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See newer post above..
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Look forward to more of your review..Thx
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What is the weight without scope?
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Mark, don't you have a JKhan .25 bullpup too? How would you compare the two?
No comparison.
I sold the JKan within 72 hours.
I thought you liked it? The review on it was impressive.
I had the same impression, if I remember correctly (not always do at my age :) ) the groups where actually much better from the Krosa right ?
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Mark, don't you have a JKhan .25 bullpup too? How would you compare the two?
No comparison.
I sold the JKan within 72 hours.
I thought you liked it? The review on it was impressive.
I had the same impression, if I remember correctly (not always do at my age :) ) the groups where actually much better from the Krosa right ?
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=85009.0 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=85009.0)
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Mark, don't you have a JKhan .25 bullpup too? How would you compare the two?
No comparison.
I sold the JKan within 72 hours.
I thought you liked it? The review on it was impressive.
I had the same impression, if I remember correctly (not always do at my age :) ) the groups where actually much better from the Krosa right ?
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=85009.0 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=85009.0)
LOL, my memory isn't that bad after all :) :) :) ....so after the 12 oz trigger job the groups where definitely better than,......looks like the overall weight might have been the deciding factor, I can understand that for sure
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If I was buying a .25 bullpup it would be either the wildcat or Krosa.
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What is the weight without scope?
According to OP, just over 6 and 1/2 pounds. I don't have a scale to weigh it myself.
To me it feels ultra light, so light I could (if I was a nut) duct tape it to my forearm and shoot all day.
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What is the weight without scope?
6.47 lbs.
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MINI REVIEW OF .25 WILDCAT - Updated
I drove out to AOA this afternoon and picked up my .25 FX Wildcat. Here is a mini review I started and will update as I spend time with it.
UNBOXING:
Not much to comment on other than the Wildcat actually fits in the box (as opposed to the Bobcat I received last year which was too wide causing the box to bulge).
(http://i.imgur.com/5jwLl4M.png)
Box Contents:
- (1) FX .25 Wildcat
- (1) Brass fill probe
- (1) Owners manual
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10 8 round silver metal magazine
INITIAL IMPRESSIONS:
My first impression was just how light the rifle actually feels. Its a featherweight compared to the other rifles I have owned and shot. The fit and finish was flawless. I was surprised to find that there were no stackable baffles on my rifle. I remember seeing the .22 Wildcat when it first arrived and it had 3 baffles just like the Bobcat. I will have to circle back with AOA to find out what the dilly is.
OWNERS MANUAL:
The manual is in full color and has 23 pages. It had no mention or reference to the Wildcat. The only section I found of use was the one about trigger adjustment. The rest is of no use. In my opinion, every airgun should come with a manual that is specific to that rifle.
CLEANING THE BARREL:
Since I couldn't shoot due to stormy weather, I decided to clean the barrel. I used a pull through cord with some cotton patches.
The first hurdle was threading the line past the smooth twist section o the barrel. A straw is absolutely necessary to get past this section of the barrel. Once past that hurdle, the tip of the line got caught on the inner lip of the shroud. I ended up having to get some tweezers to grasp the tip of the line and pull it clear. The final challenge was trying to get the patch end of the pull through into the narrow breach as you can see in the picture.
(http://i.imgur.com/D1mToke.png)
Eventually, with a little pushing and prodding, I got it to align and was able to pull it through. I didn't need to pull more than two patches since there wasn't much buildup in the barrel. The 1st patch is shown on the left below and the 2nd on the right
(http://i.imgur.com/TEb1uZm.png)
Views inside the muzzle when the end cap is removed
(http://i.imgur.com/Gx4DeSwh.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/Gx4DeSwh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/eqBp2Ueh.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/eqBp2Ueh.jpg)
CHEEK RESTS:
I turned my attention to the cheek rests. Unlike the Bobcat, the cheek rests on the Wildcat are not adjustable. The cheek rest is comprised of two pieces, both held in place by set screws.
Here is how the cheek rest looked prior to being removed
(http://i.imgur.com/z5XXxhG.png)
Here is how it looks after removing both sections
(http://i.imgur.com/orSt6q1.png)
MAGAZINE:
The magazine hold eight .25 cal pellets that are held in place by an o-ring around the inner spindle. Loading pellets is done head first like most magazines. I loaded pellets from H&N, Benjamin, and EunJin with no problems. Actually, which I pleasantly surprised to find that the 35.8 gr EunJin Domed pellet fit perfectly.
Breech opening where the 8 round magazine slides into. Notice the tip of pellet probe and breach O-ring just inside the barrel.
(http://i.imgur.com/3vq7ih1l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/3vq7ih1l.jpg)
Magazine with inner o-ring visible
(http://i.imgur.com/5JSaWRTl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/5JSaWRTl.jpg)
READY TO SHOOT:
.25 Wildcat with 17x US Optics LR-17CB scope and Low Hawke 30mm Mounts
(http://i.imgur.com/ITiY9y8h.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/ITiY9y8h.jpg)
View of rifle with coking handle open
(http://i.imgur.com/xZM4BaFh.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/xZM4BaFh.jpg)
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Looking to adjust the trigger.
Looks like we have 4 adjustable set screws.
Anyone have any ideas of what the do?
I adjusted the one second from the right in about a quarter of a turn in and it seemed to increase the resistance of the second stage.?
(http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z429/rcmark/IMG_0037.jpg) (http://s1189.photobucket.com/user/rcmark/media/IMG_0037.jpg.html)
(http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z429/rcmark/IMG_0036.jpg) (http://s1189.photobucket.com/user/rcmark/media/IMG_0036.jpg.html)
(http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z429/rcmark/IMG_0035.jpg) (http://s1189.photobucket.com/user/rcmark/media/IMG_0035.jpg.html)
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(http://i.imgur.com/eqBp2Ueh.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/eqBp2Ueh.jpg)
travels4fun,
Thank you very much for the review and the pictures! Both are extremely helpful. In the above picture, the barrel looks to have an extremely thin wall - is this right?
Thanks.
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travels4fun,
Thank you very much for the review and the pictures! Both are extremely helpful. In the above picture, the barrel looks to have an extremely thin wall - is this right?
Thanks.
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you can't see the barrel in the picture above so not sure what you're looking at. ???
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I'm pretty sure that center circle in this picture (looking into the end of the shroud) is the barrel - right???
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Have you tried the new JSB 34 grain pellet in the Wildcat?
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In the above picture, the barrel looks to have an extremely thin wall - is this right?
Thanks.
Cutting threads on a barrel to add a LDC has a way of diminishing the O.D.
(http://www.patriotdude.com/wp-content/gallery/kkm-threaded-barrel/img_3392.jpg)
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I'm pretty sure that center circle in this picture (looking into the end of the shroud) is the barrel - right???
Who knows, I can't really tell from that pic but could be. I'll get mine later this week and will check it out for sure.
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Nice-congrats!!!
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I'm pretty sure that center circle in this picture (looking into the end of the shroud) is the barrel - right???
Who knows, I can't really tell from that pic but could be. I'll get mine later this week and will check it out for sure.
That small ring in the center looks to be the radius of the crown. the looks too be about normal size... .500 or so
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First part to 'fall off'! :(
Cocking level has a simple push pin that is a little small!! >:(
(http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z429/rcmark/IMG_1488.jpg) (http://s1189.photobucket.com/user/rcmark/media/IMG_1488.jpg.html)
(http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z429/rcmark/IMG_1491.jpg) (http://s1189.photobucket.com/user/rcmark/media/IMG_1491.jpg.html)
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Wow...
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Real quality. Rushed to market? Makes you wonder how throughly tested the rifle was. Small problem,simple fix but does it for shadow things to come. Cancelled my order.
It was a 25 cal all 22 sold out,that is what I prefer in this type.
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Real quality. Rushed to market? Makes you wonder how throughly tested the rifle was. Small problem,simple fix but does it for shadow things to come. Cancelled my order.
If you had a .22 cal ordered, I will take you place in line! ;)
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A little JB Weld and it's all good!!
I have over 1000 pellets thru this gun, If anything else was 'going to go bad' I probably would have seen it by now!
(http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z429/rcmark/IMG_1495.jpg) (http://s1189.photobucket.com/user/rcmark/media/IMG_1495.jpg.html)
(http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z429/rcmark/IMG_1498.jpg) (http://s1189.photobucket.com/user/rcmark/media/IMG_1498.jpg.html)
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That not worthy, that is unacceptable for a high end gun, I hope it's just a fluke.
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First part to 'fall off'! :(
Cocking level has a simple push pin that is a little small!! >:(
I would still contact FX and let them know about this. They might send you a new [better] pin, and it would give them some valuable feedback so they could correct any issues.
Sorry about the problem - that's a bummer. I hate it when I get all excited for a new gun, and it ends up having issues.
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First part to 'fall off'! :(
Cocking level has a simple push pin that is a little small!! >:(
I would still contact FX and let them know about this. They might send you a new [better] pin, and it would give them some valuable feedback so they could correct any issues.
Sorry about the problem - that's a bummer. I hate it when I get all excited for a new gun, and it ends up having issues.
In the past I have tried to contact FX by email. I have NEVER received a response!
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First part to 'fall off'! :(
Cocking level has a simple push pin that is a little small!! >:(
I would still contact FX and let them know about this. They might send you a new [better] pin, and it would give them some valuable feedback so they could correct any issues.
Sorry about the problem - that's a bummer. I hate it when I get all excited for a new gun, and it ends up having issues.
In the past I have tried to contact FX by email. I have NEVER received a response!
Hmmm, that's not good. I've tried to contact them a couple times over the past few weeks, too. They never responded to me either. Maybe I'll forget about this gun [and FX in general] - customer support is important, when you need it. I don't know...
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First part to 'fall off'! :(
Cocking level has a simple push pin that is a little small!! >:(
I would still contact FX and let them know about this. They might send you a new [better] pin, and it would give them some valuable feedback so they could correct any issues.
Sorry about the problem - that's a bummer. I hate it when I get all excited for a new gun, and it ends up having issues.
In the past I have tried to contact FX by email. I have NEVER received a response!
Hmmm, that's not good. I've tried to contact them a couple times over the past few weeks, too. They never responded to me either. Maybe I'll forget about this gun [and FX in general] - customer support is important, when you need it. I don't know...
I also sent a Email to AOA with the pictures of the trigger adjustment screws asking what the 4 screws do. NO RESPONSE !!!
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First part to 'fall off'! :(
Cocking level has a simple push pin that is a little small!! >:(
I would still contact FX and let them know about this. They might send you a new [better] pin, and it would give them some valuable feedback so they could correct any issues.
Sorry about the problem - that's a bummer. I hate it when I get all excited for a new gun, and it ends up having issues.
In the past I have tried to contact FX by email. I have NEVER received a response!
Hmmm, that's not good. I've tried to contact them a couple times over the past few weeks, too. They never responded to me either. Maybe I'll forget about this gun [and FX in general] - customer support is important, when you need it. I don't know...
I also sent a Email to AOA with the pictures of the trigger adjustment screws asking what the 4 screws do. NO RESPONSE !!!
They may not know, since FX has no specific manual available for this gun. They still don't have specs for this gun listed on their web page - only an announcement??? Hopefully AoA DOES know and gets back to you soon.
Good luck!
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With all the time everyone has been waiting for this gun, why could no one find the time to write up a manual for it?
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Looking to adjust the trigger.
Looks like we have 4 adjustable set screws.
Anyone have any ideas of what the do?
I adjusted the one second from the right in about a quarter of a turn in and it seemed to increase the resistance of the second stage.
Trigger Adjustment Overview for the FX Wildcat:
First Stage Screw (see picture below) adjusts the travel or "length of pull" in the trigger.
- Turn Clockwise to reduce travel
- Turn Counter-Clockwise to increase travel
Second Stage Screw (see picture below) adjusts the resistance or weight of pull.
- Turn Clockwise to increase resistance
- Turn Counter-Clockwise to reduce resistance
WARNING: ALWAYS make sure the SAFETY still works when finished making any adjustments to the trigger.
Credit goes to FX as they were very responsive in providing an overview of the Wildcat's trigger adjustment. They also said an Owners Manual for the Impact and Wildcat will be coming.
(http://i.imgur.com/Eo8vH9w.jpg)
Regards,
Scott
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With all the time everyone has been waiting for this gun, why could no one find the time to write up a manual for it?
Johan of FX said a manual for both the Impact and Wildcat is coming. I don't know when so don't bother asking.
Now chill out and relax. Go out and shoot your gun.
Scott
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First part to 'fall off'! :(
Cocking level has a simple push pin that is a little small!! >:(
I would still contact FX and let them know about this. They might send you a new [better] pin, and it would give them some valuable feedback so they could correct any issues.
Sorry about the problem - that's a bummer. I hate it when I get all excited for a new gun, and it ends up having issues.
In the past I have tried to contact FX by email. I have NEVER received a response!
Hmmm, that's not good. I've tried to contact them a couple times over the past few weeks, too. They never responded to me either. Maybe I'll forget about this gun [and FX in general] - customer support is important, when you need it. I don't know...
I also sent a Email to AOA with the pictures of the trigger adjustment screws asking what the 4 screws do. NO RESPONSE !!!
They may not know, since FX has no specific manual available for this gun. They still don't have specs for this gun listed on their web page - only an announcement??? Hopefully AoA DOES know and gets back to you soon.
Good luck!
To save everyone the trouble, I asked about this and FX replied immediately. Here is the link to the thread with their response: http://www.airgunnation.com/topic/owners-manual-for-fx-wildcat/#post-13545 (http://www.airgunnation.com/topic/owners-manual-for-fx-wildcat/#post-13545).
Scott
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A little JB Weld and it's all good!!
I have over 1000 pellets thru this gun, If anything else was 'going to go bad' I probably would have seen it by now!
Bummer about the pin. It looks like you got that sorted which is good to see.
So far am happy to say that I have yet to encounter any significant problems with the Wildcat (aside from the lack of manual). In fact, the Wildcat (knock on wood) is the very first PCP I have owned that actually doesn't have any issues or problems right out of the box. There are some things that could be better on the Wildcat which I will elaborate on later. In the meanwhile, here is the list:
- Muzzle cap keeps working it's way lose
- Magazine ho-hum
- Cleaning barrel a pain (I think I found a solution)
Oh and I removed the barrel. I'll post pics later as I know there were questions about the width of the barrel walls, etc. Standby..
Scott
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A little JB Weld and it's all good!!
I have over 1000 pellets thru this gun, If anything else was 'going to go bad' I probably would have seen it by now!
Bummer about the pin. It looks like you got that sorted which is good to see.
So far am happy to say that I have yet to encounter any significant problems with the Wildcat (aside from the lack of manual). In fact, the Wildcat (knock on wood) is the very first PCP I have owned that actually doesn't have any issues or problems right out of the box. There are some things that could be better on the Wildcat which I will elaborate on later. In the meanwhile, here is the list:
- Muzzle cap keeps working it's way lose
- Magazine ho-hum
- Cleaning barrel a pain (I think I found a solution)
Oh and I removed the barrel. I'll post pics later as I know there were questions about the width of the barrel walls, etc. Standby..
Scott
Outstanding, thank you Scott!
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First part to 'fall off'! :(
Cocking level has a simple push pin that is a little small!! >:(
That's not acceptable, a gun that's not meant to be serviced. Even Korean guns have a screw in pin for the linkage that can be removed and re-tightened for maintenance. Once you push that pin out it is unlikely to stay in place. Poor show from FX :(
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How do you release a new gun & NOT have a manual? It's not like FX is a garage shop operation.
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How do you release a new gun & NOT have a manual? It's not like FX is a garage shop operation.
So you're the one guy that reads the manual? Nice to meet you. :P
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How do you release a new gun & NOT have a manual? It's not like FX is a garage shop operation.
Well actually, it is not as uncommon as you may think. I bought an Evanix Max-ML in April 2014 and it arrived without a manual. I called PA and was told there were none. They did give me a link to a Rainstorm II manual which they said should be sufficient. I ended up returning the Max-ML due to problems and exchanged it for an Evanix GTK290. That arrived with a manual for an Evanix Sniper (hey!??). When I called PA they apologized and said the GTK290 doesn't have a manual but said the Evanix MAX manual should be sufficient.
Now I'm not disagreeing with you as I believe every airgun should ship with an owners manual specific to the make and model of the gun. As we all know, airguns are not toys and have the potential for causing serious injury or death if not operated and handled properly.
Anyway, let's move on from focusing on the Owners Manual and get back on topic.
Scott
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I doubt I'm the only one who reads them. Maybe you should try it too. There's usually some good information in those manuals.
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First part to 'fall off'! :(
Cocking level has a simple push pin that is a little small!! >:(
(http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z429/rcmark/IMG_1488.jpg) (http://s1189.photobucket.com/user/rcmark/media/IMG_1488.jpg.html)
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That looks like a solid pin??? It more than likely should be a roll pin pushed in instead! That way it will be tight and not fall out.
William
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That really stinks! Sorry to see something already broke. I truly believe the lower your serial number is, the more issues. Good luck bud.
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I have now had the Wildcat for six days and promised to provide an update with my observations and findings. Overall, I am extremely pleased with the rifle. It has proven to be a real winner and is a blast to shoot. I just ordered an Atlas bipod which should arrive this week and will report on how the installation goes and any tips or tricks I may uncover. In the meanwhile, I hope you find the following informative and helpful.
THINGS I LOVE:
- Fit and finish is top notch.
- I haven't encountered any issues or problems whatsoever.
- The height of the scope rail is spot on
- The action is very smooth and crisp
- The charging handle is a huge improvement over the one that came on my Gen I Bobcat
- The rifle is extremely quiet and backyard friendly
- Accuracy is outstanding. I'm getting 8 shot groupings between .35" to .5"CTC at 65 yards
- The rifle isn't pellet fussy. So far, the Benjamin Domed, H&N Barracuda, and EunJin Domed pellets have shot extremely well and chamber smoothly.
- There is no perceivable POI shift from 230 bar down to 150 bar.
- I'm getting 80-90 shots on a single fill from 230 bar and 150 bar which is pretty darn good for it's power and diminutive a 300cc cylinder
- The gun is extremely light and maneuverable.
- The trigger is sublime (once adjusted).
- There is hardly any muzzle flip which is surprising for such a powerful gun that is as light as it is.
- The built in manometer is very accurate and always registers the same pressure as that shown on my CF tank.
- I have never come across a a rifle that resists finger prints and smudges as well as the Wildcat.
THINGS I DON"T MIND BUT COULD BE BETTER
- The fill port dust cover opening is a bit small and needs to be perfectly centered to get the probe to insert properly.
- Out of the box, I found the trigger's first stage had way too much travel. I was able to remedy this with a little adjustment.
- The magazine is well made though it only holds 8 pellets so I'm constantly having to reload
- The barrel end cap keeps working it's way loose so I'll have to find a way to keep that from happening.
- There is no thumb rest which would have been nice to have.
THINGS I DON'T LIKE:
- Cleaning the barrel is a pain and time consuming due to small and narrow opening in the breech. I found removing the barrel makes cleaning much easier.
- Loading the magazine is way to fussy. Getting the magazine in the proper indexed position so the bolt can close can be tricky.
- The magazine has no mechanism to let you know once it's empty. This has resulted in countless dry fired shots or removing the magazine too early and finding there is still a pellet remaining.
- It needs Picatinny Rails!!
Scott
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First part to 'fall off'! :(
Cocking level has a simple push pin that is a little small!! >:(
That's not acceptable, a gun that's not meant to be serviced. Even Korean guns have a screw in pin for the linkage that can be removed and re-tightened for maintenance. Once you push that pin out it is unlikely to stay in place. Poor show from FX :(
Really?? You may want to read this http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=77115.msg781236#msg781236 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=77115.msg781236#msg781236)
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First part to 'fall off'! :(
Cocking level has a simple push pin that is a little small!! >:(
That's not acceptable, a gun that's not meant to be serviced. Even Korean guns have a screw in pin for the linkage that can be removed and re-tightened for maintenance. Once you push that pin out it is unlikely to stay in place. Poor show from FX :(
Really?? You may want to read this http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=77115.msg781236#msg781236 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=77115.msg781236#msg781236)
That's the pin that moves the hammer installed upside down or deformed. It is made of rather poor material. I can expect that from Koreans but I wouldn't expect falling out pins from Swedish guns. Of course we could start talking about bolt handles snapping in Swedish Mausers in cold weather but that's not for this forum I believe.
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First part to 'fall off'! :(
Cocking level has a simple push pin that is a little small!! >:(
That's not acceptable, a gun that's not meant to be serviced. Even Korean guns have a screw in pin for the linkage that can be removed and re-tightened for maintenance. Once you push that pin out it is unlikely to stay in place. Poor show from FX :(
Really?? You may want to read this http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=77115.msg781236#msg781236 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=77115.msg781236#msg781236)
That's the pin that moves the hammer installed upside down or deformed. It is made of rather poor material. I can expect that from Koreans but I wouldn't expect falling out pins from Swedish guns. Of course we could start talking about bolt handles snapping in Swedish Mausers in cold weather but that's not for this forum I believe.
Yeah yeah. Tell that to Ikea or Saab LOL.
Now I may be missing something but have there been any other owners who have had this happen on their Wildcat? Mine hasn't had any problems or issues. I actually provide a candid review of the rifle in an earlier post with observations good and bad on my findings so far. It's only been a week so only time will tell.
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The best part I read so for is :
....that the .25 isn't pellet fussy, that is Huge IMO.
I must have missed it, but what power is the Cat .25 delivering ?
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The best part I read so for is :
....that the .25 isn't pellet fussy, that is Huge IMO.
I must have missed it, but what power is the Cat .25 delivering ?
910 w JSB Kings
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OK, so it's a 46 FPE gun,...thanks
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OK, so it's a 46 FPE gun,...thanks
I no longer own a chronograph unfortunately. However, Tom over at AGN was getting up to 49 FPE shooting the JSB Kings.
924 @230bar
925
925
924
927
924
924
921
922
920
922 @200bar
922
922
929
928
921
932*
923
923
922
923 @185bar
925
923
925
928
926
924
924
923
927
926 @160bar
927
929
926
926
925
924
924
929
926
923 @145bar
924
923
918
920
914
913
912
908
* = way up or down from the surrounding trends speeds.
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Best Groups ( not typical ) at 100 yards.
After 1200 - 1500 pellets shot, I have had the cocking mechanism 'jam' (after shooting 2 or 3 shots from a full mag ) 2 times. It will not cock fully, after moving the mag a little and trying to cock it again and again it starts to work. The next time this occurs I will make a video showing exactly what happens.
(http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z429/rcmark/IMG_1506-2.jpg) (http://s1189.photobucket.com/user/rcmark/media/IMG_1506-2.jpg.html)
(http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z429/rcmark/IMG_1509.jpg) (http://s1189.photobucket.com/user/rcmark/media/IMG_1509.jpg.html)
(http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z429/rcmark/IMG_1512.jpg) (http://s1189.photobucket.com/user/rcmark/media/IMG_1512.jpg.html)
(http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z429/rcmark/100%20yards2.jpg) (http://s1189.photobucket.com/user/rcmark/media/100%20yards2.jpg.html)
(http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z429/rcmark/100%20yards1.jpg) (http://s1189.photobucket.com/user/rcmark/media/100%20yards1.jpg.html)
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Do these have regulators in them? If not that is a nice shot string and count.
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Do these have regulators in them?
Yes
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Best Groups ( not typical ) at 100 yards.
After 1200 - 1500 pellets shot, I have had the cocking mechanism 'jam' (after shooting 2 or 3 shots from a full mag ) 2 times. It will not cock fully, after moving the mag a little and trying to cock it again and again it starts to work. The next time this occurs I will make a video showing exactly what happens.
Mark,
I have experienced the same happening with my .25 Wildcat a few times. There is actually a discussion were FX replies with some advice. Here is the link: FX Response (http://www.airgunnation.com/topic/hey-fx-little-help/?view=all#post-14825)
Scott
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Best Groups ( not typical ) at 100 yards.
After 1200 - 1500 pellets shot, I have had the cocking mechanism 'jam' (after shooting 2 or 3 shots from a full mag ) 2 times. It will not cock fully, after moving the mag a little and trying to cock it again and again it starts to work. The next time this occurs I will make a video showing exactly what happens.
Mark,
I have experienced the same happening with my .25 Wildcat a few times. There is actually a discussion were FX replies with some advice. Here is the link: FX Response (http://www.airgunnation.com/topic/hey-fx-little-help/?view=all#post-14825)
Scott
Thanks, Scott that helped a lot! ;)
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Hummm reading the fx fix and what the person did to fix his so it indexed right . Made up my mine I'm not buying any fx air guns. If you can fix it by bending the piece with a pair of pliers. Tells me their taking short cuts not using case harden metal parts. Especially parts that are constantly being cycled all the time.
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- The barrel end cap keeps working it's way loose so I'll have to find a way to keep that from happening.
Scott
Have you tried putting a few wraps of teflon tape around the cap threads? That would snug it up nicely and not require any permanent changes.
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- The barrel end cap keeps working it's way loose so I'll have to find a way to keep that from happening.
Scott
Have you tried putting a few wraps of teflon tape around the cap threads? That would snug it up nicely and not require any permanent changes.
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Hoot is in Da House :) :) :)
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- The barrel end cap keeps working it's way loose so I'll have to find a way to keep that from happening.
Scott
Have you tried putting a few wraps of teflon tape around the cap threads? That would snug it up nicely and not require any permanent changes.
Hey Hoot
I was thinking about doing just that but it seems to have sorted itself out on it's own. I has been 3 days and it's seems to be staying put. Thanks for the suggestion.
Scott
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Hummm reading the fx fix and what the person did to fix his so it indexed right . Made up my mine I'm not buying any fx air guns. If you can fix it by bending the piece with a pair of pliers. Tells me their taking short cuts not using case harden metal parts. Especially parts that are constantly being cycled all the time.
FX had intended to use Adamantium parts but some guy named the Wolverine broke into their factory and stole their entire supply.
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- The barrel end cap keeps working it's way loose so I'll have to find a way to keep that from happening.
Scott
Have you tried putting a few wraps of teflon tape around the cap threads? That would snug it up nicely and not require any permanent changes.
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Hoot is in Da House :) :) :)
Must be an impostor. The reply was not rude and I doubt uncle Hoot has the ability to create new accounts from nursing home :)
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Hummm reading the fx fix and what the person did to fix his so it indexed right . Made up my mine I'm not buying any fx air guns. If you can fix it by bending the piece with a pair of pliers. Tells me their taking short cuts not using case harden metal parts. Especially parts that are constantly being cycled all the time.
FX had intended to use Adamantium parts but some guy named the Wolverine broke into their factory and stole their entire supply.
Adamantium won't work it' a liquid metal and has to be injected in your body before it gets hard lol
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- The barrel end cap keeps working it's way loose so I'll have to find a way to keep that from happening.
Scott
Have you tried putting a few wraps of teflon tape around the cap threads? That would snug it up nicely and not require any permanent changes.
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Hoot is in Da House :) :) :)
Must be an impostor. The reply was not rude and I doubt uncle Hoot has the ability to create new accounts from nursing home :)
Yeah, That ain't the real HOOT! That post actually had some merit ;)
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Any suggestions how to fix this problem?
NOT happy!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKok95wyvm0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKok95wyvm0)
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Pulling the trigger cleared the sear. Somehow the sear remained in the cocked position. Somehow the double load prevention caused the problem. What daya think?
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Pulling the trigger cleared the sear. Somehow the sear remained in the cocked position. Somehow the double load prevention caused the problem. What daya think?
I would take my money back if they would give it to me! :-\
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your sear is stuck. take off the stock and move the trigger to loosen the sear. I had that happen to my royale.
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I would also make sure you are fully cocking the rifle, I know but I am not an AOA laky. You should tell by my previous post. I have a problem short cocking my springers. I do not slamming them fully cocked or closing. In the end I would return it also,but I would have done that when the pin fell out.
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Pulling the trigger cleared the sear. Somehow the sear remained in the cocked position. Somehow the double load prevention caused the problem. What daya think?
I would take my money back if they would give it to me! :-\
I believe that gun qualifies as a return.
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I would take my money back if they would give it to me! :-\
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I believe that gun qualifies as a return.
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Really glad I cancelled my order.
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Try loosening screw C (see pic below). This is the screw that adjusts the second stage and I found that if it's too tight, the gun won't cock correctly.
(http://i.imgur.com/e24cm5F.jpg)
As for the rest of the screws:
A Trigger Stop
B Trigger Sear Return Spring (leave alone)
C Second Stage
D First Stage
CAUTION:
- The first rule of Screw B is: You do not touch Screw B. The second rule of Screw B is: You do not touch Screw B. Leave screw B alone. Don't touch it.
- Do not to over tighten set screw C as it will prevent the gun from cocking and the magazine from indexing properly
- Do not to over tighten set screw D as it will prevent the safety catch from engaging
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I tried loosening screw C. If I loosen it more than 1/8 of a turn it becomes a real hair trigger not safe for anything!
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Jammed again today!
New Video: https://youtu.be/VxXiMom9NCI (https://youtu.be/VxXiMom9NCI)
FX's reply:
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Im very sorry to hear about the problem with your new gun, from the info i gathered of the video it seems as the return spring on the trigger sear isnt in its place.
It is important that the spring is secured on the trigger sear as it is on the picture.
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Picture from FX:
(http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z429/rcmark/Trigger%20sear%20return.png) (http://s1189.photobucket.com/user/rcmark/media/Trigger%20sear%20return.png.html)
Sent another email to AOA including both videos.
No response from AOA.
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I'm so sorry to hear about your troubles with your new bullpup!
You are correct about the problem. That little spring must be attached to the tip of that adjustment screw somehow. If there is insufficient pressure from that spring, the mechanism can cock even though the striker is forward which will prevent it from moving backward (thus the jamming you are experiencing). This is why you can pull the trigger (to release the false cock) and then the striker can slide back and cock the gun.
It seems like that spring is too large an ID and fits over the adjustment screw then bottoms out against that metal lever. Perhaps something is broken in the spring or maybe it is installed backwards. I'd take a look to see what is supposed to hold the spring on the tip of that adjustment screw which is clearly supposed to allow adjustment of the tension of that spring. Adding a nut on that screw for the spring to ride on would be one solution.
Ray
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The spring may have been displaced when screw B was loosened too much. Looks like a simple fix.
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The spring may have been displaced when screw B was loosened too much. Looks like a simple fix.
Good point. Potentially an issue that could have been avoided if the gun shipped with an owners manual specific to the gun. And worth pointing out that this potentially could have been caused by the owner and not a problem from FX or a design problem with the gun. Again, FX should have sent an owners manual with it!!! or at least have some detailed info on their website. a .pdf owners manual would be nice.
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Can anyone do a favor, measure a Wildcat with scope top to bottom for height? I want a hardcase, thinking a Storm iM3100 that has inside 14" top to bottom and 36.5" long might work. Maybe devuldge the type of scope and if it's medium or high mounts. Thanks!
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One more failure from UK http://www.airgunforum.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/202151-Bad-news-My-FX-wildcat-stopped-working-on-day-one (http://www.airgunforum.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/202151-Bad-news-My-FX-wildcat-stopped-working-on-day-one)
It also looks like there's a cover up ongoing - threads about Wildcat problems disappear???
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rcmark & travels 4fun, how are your Wildcats performing now? Any more glitches?
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rcmark & travels 4fun, how are your Wildcats performing now? Any more glitches?
Didn't they sell them ?
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rcmark & travels 4fun, how are your Wildcats performing now? Any more glitches?
Didn't they sell them ?
Oh, they did. So was they unhappy or just moved on to something else.
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Not an insignificant number of problem reports. Wildcat has been on my radar screen. Now I think it is best to hold off on purchase or go to a different gun, perhaps even different manufacturer.
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Not an insignificant number of problem reports. Wildcat has been on my radar screen. Now I think it is best to hold off on purchase or go to a different gun, perhaps even different manufacturer.
That is crazy. I have had a FX Royale for several years and it has never had even the slightest glitch. I thought the Wildcat was going to be the same. Hope they get all the hang-ups fixed , I was wanting to add that one to my collection of squirrel guns. I hadn't been following the forums much this Summer ( busy) , guess I missed all of the issues with the Wildcat.
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FX has a very good reputation for their rifles and I am very interested in owning one. Maybe as with cars you don't want to buy to soon after new model release. Perhaps then you will also get a model specific manual?
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I am sure they will get it worked out, they seem to be perfectionist. Get it worked out then have a camo finished model. I hate black guns and so do squirrels. >:(