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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: SaltwaterSlick on February 27, 2015, 12:17:44 PM
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Just saw over on the TAG and Yeller (though most of the new FX stuff gets deleted over there). that FX has a totally new BP they call the Wildcat. It looks a lot like a Cricket or Edgun with synthetic stock... Sure wish FX would get another dealer here in the States. I'd love to have one of these and probably a couple other models they offer...
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AOA and FX facebook have more info on it. more detail pictures on AOA. $1299 for .22 or .25 caliber. AOA is offering free LW barrels for $20 shipping charge. in .177 and .22
as soon as I post for FX or AOA on Yellow. it gets deleted. Man, whoever it is over at yellow must hate AOA and FX.
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New FX Wildcat Bullpup $1299
- All New Design
- New Magazine
- All New Cocking System
- All New Synthetic Material
- All New Scope Rail
- All New Lightweight Skeleton Stock
- Regulator Standard on all Calibers
- Available in .22 or .25 (Same Price)
RIGHT CLICK ON IMAGE BELOW AND SELECT "VIEW IMAGE" TO SEE FULL UN CROPPED VERSION:
(http://www.fxairguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/FX-wildcat.jpg)
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AOA and FX facebook have more info on it. more detail pictures on AOA. $1299 for .22 or .25 caliber. AOA is offering free LW barrels for $20 shipping charge. in .177 and .22
as soon as I post for FX or AOA on Yellow. it gets deleted. Man, whoever it is over at yellow must hate AOA and FX.
The owner of Yellow Forum has a vested interest in Wild West Airguns which sells the Vulcan and KalibrGun line of bullpups. As such, he actively censors and often deletes any posts that mention AOA, FX or DayState.
In addition, the owner will ban you from Yellow without any notice just for bringing up AOA, FX, or DayState.
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AOA and FX facebook have more info on it. more detail pictures on AOA. $1299 for .22 or .25 caliber. AOA is offering free LW barrels for $20 shipping charge. in .177 and .22
as soon as I post for FX or AOA on Yellow. it gets deleted. Man, whoever it is over at yellow must hate AOA and FX.
The owner of Yellow Forum has a vested interest in Wild West Airguns which sells the Vulcan and KalibrGun line of bullpups. As such, he actively censors and often deletes any posts that mention AOA, FX or DayState.
In addition, the owner will ban you from Yellow without any notice just for bringing up AOA, FX, or DayState.
x2..This is what happens when the forum owner is financially invested in another brand and distributor.. Its no longer a forum.. More like a dictatorship..
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Don't worry! Obo's "net neutrality" will fix all that!
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AOA and FX facebook have more info on it. more detail pictures on AOA. $1299 for .22 or .25 caliber. AOA is offering free LW barrels for $20 shipping charge. in .177 and .22
as soon as I post for FX or AOA on Yellow. it gets deleted. Man, whoever it is over at yellow must hate AOA and FX.
The owner of Yellow Forum has a vested interest in Wild West Airguns which sells the Vulcan and KalibrGun line of bullpups. As such, he actively censors and often deletes any posts that mention AOA, FX or DayState.
In addition, the owner will ban you from Yellow without any notice just for bringing up AOA, FX, or DayState.
x2..This is what happens when the forum owner is financially invested in another brand and distributor.. Its no longer a forum.. More like a dictatorship..
Lets keep things nice , We try to maintain neutrality and that is what makes us the best AG forum out there
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AOA and FX facebook have more info on it. more detail pictures on AOA. $1299 for .22 or .25 caliber. AOA is offering free LW barrels for $20 shipping charge. in .177 and .22
as soon as I post for FX or AOA on Yellow. it gets deleted. Man, whoever it is over at yellow must hate AOA and FX.
The owner of Yellow Forum has a vested interest in Wild West Airguns which sells the Vulcan and KalibrGun line of bullpups. As such, he actively censors and often deletes any posts that mention AOA, FX or DayState.
In addition, the owner will ban you from Yellow without any notice just for bringing up AOA, FX, or DayState.
x2..This is what happens when the forum owner is financially invested in another brand and distributor.. Its no longer a forum.. More like a dictatorship..
Lets keep things nice , We try to maintain neutrality and that is what makes us the best AG forum out there
Yeah, my dear old Mother use to tell me "Son if you can't say something good about someone don't say anything". That is hard for me. My Father use to tell me I should pray for my enemies. I did, but not for good health. ;D
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That new FX sure looks sweet
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That new FX sure looks sweet
I agree, wonder why it took them so long?
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Gotta say, prefer Black BullPups than wooden stocked ones anyday.
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Gotta say, prefer Black BullPups than wooden stocked ones anyday.
+1
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Bobcat... Wildcat... that's a lot of cat... I was thinking of another kind of cat, but I see that one may already taken...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUkGa4rtPlg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUkGa4rtPlg)
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Just saw over on the TAG and Yeller (though most of the new FX stuff gets deleted over there). that FX has a totally new BP they call the Wildcat. It looks a lot like a Cricket or Edgun with synthetic stock... Sure wish FX would get another dealer here in the States. I'd love to have one of these and probably a couple other models they offer...
Jim at Precision also sells FX and is a great guy to deal with.
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Gotta say, prefer Black BullPups than wooden stocked ones anyday.
I like the wood too if any of the pup manufacturers would just make the stocks out of a Minelli quality of timber.
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Jim at Precision is taking pre order at the $1299 price. I ordered a regulated .25.
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seem like FX has responded to all the requests form the public lately, at 5.8 # this has to be the lightest pup out there
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seem like FX has responded to all the requests form the public lately, at 5.8 # this has to be the lightest pup out there
Light price & weight. @ 5.8 I gotta get one. What is 1300.00 , if you say it fast , it doesn't sound bad. Maybe we can get bulk price if several of us got together and order one, ;)
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I'm in on a group buy if it happens... but I'm not counting on it. I have a Bobcat, and black is cool, but a nice walnut stock trumps it in my opinion. Was looking real hard at the Vulcan, and on the "just in case" list for a Lelya, but now... Wow!
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I'm in on a group buy if it happens... but I'm not counting on it. I have a Bobcat, and black is cool, but a nice walnut stock trumps it in my opinion. Was looking real hard at the Vulcan, and on the "just in case" list for a Lelya, but now... Wow!
Yeah, too much cool stuff hitting the market @ 1 time. Gonna be a lot of guns sitting on shelves. Expect a big Fall Sale on some BP ;D See a little of it already.
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Dude i was looking at all the fx guns on aoa site today. Man they are burning a hole in my savings account!
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Just saw over on the TAG and Yeller (though most of the new FX stuff gets deleted over there). that FX has a totally new BP they call the Wildcat. It looks a lot like a Cricket or Edgun with synthetic stock... Sure wish FX would get another dealer here in the States. I'd love to have one of these and probably a couple other models they offer...
Jim at Precision also sells FX and is a great guy to deal with.
I would buy from Jim and Nancy at Precision before buying anything from the big store in AZ. Even if it was a little more. Excellent customer service at Precision and they stand behind what they sell..
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I don't know how true it is, but I herd on TAG, that Joe at http://www.airtanksforsale.com/ (http://www.airtanksforsale.com/) bought some. He got a special deal and is selling them for $300 to $500 off AOA price. If this is true anyone interested should email him fast, because they will go fast.
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I don't know how true it is, but I herd on TAG, that Joe at http://www.airtanksforsale.com/ (http://www.airtanksforsale.com/) bought some. He got a special deal and is selling them for $300 to $500 off AOA price. If this is true anyone interested should email him fast, because they will go fast.
Here is Joe Brancato's post with spelling errors intact:
A Euorepean dealier if offering them to me at a significant savings
February 28 2015 at 8:35 AM
I am considering asking if anybody wants to go in with me, and I'll import a bunch. If we can save $300-$500, why not? Call me if interested, or use the email* in my logo below (not my sign-in email, I don't monitor it).
*The email he referred to is info@airtanksforsale.com
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Check out the thread that was just posted over on the yellow......really shocking! Radically since it was the forum owner that posted it!!!!
I bought my daystate from Jim and Nancy, even though they get their supply from AOA I feel better talking to them over the other store.
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Just a thought, what if something breaks on the guns bought from Joe? I'm guessing you're not going to have any warranty as I'm sure AOA isn't going to fix any gun that didn't pass through their hands first. I've dealt with Joe who is a fantastic guy to do business with so if he could fix any issues then it shouldn't be a problem. But if you had to ship it back to Europe then that would be a deal breaker for me but that's me.
But having said that I already own 2 Kalibrgun Crickets, one in .22 and the other in .25 that I bought from Precision Airgun and Supplies. Both the Crickets are great shooters and haven't had any problems. I think the new FX Wildcat is directly aimed at the Cricket. The Wildcat even looks like a Cricket with a slightly different stock that has no magazine holders like the Crickets do.
I think I'll just be content with keeping the Crickets which are a proven design and easy to work on, or so I've read.
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I think we should mind our own business.
Check out the thread that was just posted over on the yellow......really shocking! Radically since it was the forum owner that posted it!!!!
I bought my daystate from Jim and Nancy, even though they get their supply from AOA I feel better talking to them over the other store.
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This is Joe's response to my inquiry regarding FX Wildcat.
"At this point I haven’t asked about Wildcats, as I’m not even sure they are delivering. Please do state on the forum that I am already in discussions of bringing in Royale 400 and 500, and any other models currently being made."
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Instead of posting useless things to the topic, why not look at the information?
The owner over there actually posted up the fx dealer price list. There was a potential delay from Puerto Rico, but the fx troops blew him off a few times, after the buyer flew in from his country to AOA. Really interesting to see a 200-350% mark up, on just about every fx gun. It shows something like the boss for $1050, instead of the absurd price it is listed for.
https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fapp.box.com%2Fs%2Fxxsyqwffr8hymlgsafzc8rflwydhvo1w
https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fapp.box.com%2Fs%2Fj4bs3wlj1zb76owrswx0lv2iekc7ghj9
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I think they should have used the Monsoon action. Just shorten the .22 barrel to 15-16" and put it in a bullpup stock. Nice compact and reliable full power semi-auto bullpup, something that Calibrgun couldn't achieve.
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I am more than familiar with the issue, and am sick to death of all the whining on the yellow, and am hoping that this toxic issue does not take root here. More than a few of us have recently been banned from the yellow for expressing opinions not in line with Steve's agenda.
Instead of posting useless things to the topic, why not look at the information?
The owner over there actually posted up the fx dealer price list. There was a potential delay from Puerto Rico, but the fx troops blew him off a few times, after the buyer flew in from his country to AOA. Really interesting to see a 200-350% mark up, on just about every fx gun. It shows something like the boss for $1050, instead of the absurd price it is listed for.
https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fapp.box.com%2Fs%2Fxxsyqwffr8hymlgsafzc8rflwydhvo1w
https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fapp.box.com%2Fs%2Fj4bs3wlj1zb76owrswx0lv2iekc7ghj9
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I am more than familiar with the issue, and am sick to death of all the whining on the yellow, and am hoping that this toxic issue does not take root here. More than a few of us have recently been banned from the yellow for expressing opinions not in line with Steve's agenda.
Instead of posting useless things to the topic, why not look at the information?
The owner over there actually posted up the fx dealer price list. There was a potential delay from Puerto Rico, but the fx troops blew him off a few times, after the buyer flew in from his country to AOA. Really interesting to see a 200-350% mark up, on just about every fx gun. It shows something like the boss for $1050, instead of the absurd price it is listed for.
https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fapp.box.com%2Fs%2Fxxsyqwffr8hymlgsafzc8rflwydhvo1w
https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fapp.box.com%2Fs%2Fj4bs3wlj1zb76owrswx0lv2iekc7ghj9
In spades.
You get a very skewed picture of the issue from that site. Not least of which is somehow an attitude of entitlement toward being able to tell a vendor how to run their business.
No one seems to realize there that Puerto Rico is considered US territory for business. They already have a US distributor so...
Now they're slagging on Steyr , who's next I wonder?
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Let's keep things focused on the gun folks.
Thanks
Tyler
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I am more than familiar with the issue, and am sick to death of all the whining on the yellow, and am hoping that this toxic issue does not take root here. More than a few of us have recently been banned from the yellow for expressing opinions not in line with Steve's agenda.
Instead of posting useless things to the topic, why not look at the information?
The owner over there actually posted up the fx dealer price list. There was a potential delay from Puerto Rico, but the fx troops blew him off a few times, after the buyer flew in from his country to AOA. Really interesting to see a 200-350% mark up, on just about every fx gun. It shows something like the boss for $1050, instead of the absurd price it is listed for.
https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fapp.box.com%2Fs%2Fxxsyqwffr8hymlgsafzc8rflwydhvo1w
https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fapp.box.com%2Fs%2Fj4bs3wlj1zb76owrswx0lv2iekc7ghj9
Before we start pointing fingers and thinking it only happens there let me assure you that it happens here as well. A friend of mine who at one time was a member here was banned for life for simply posting how they were treated by a vendor who has connections on this very forum. No one ever finds out about it because once your banned your voice is gone from the forum unless someone who still has access posts about it. Many like to think that we live in a free society where you can speak your mind on these forums but when money gets mixed into decision making about who gets to say what because it might upset those who provide financial support, you figure out who gets to stay and who gets banned after being labeled a trouble maker for just posting their own personal experience with a vendor. This is all I have to say on the matter for fear that I might get banned. :o If you don't here from me again you know what happened. :-[
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Instead of posting useless things to the topic, why not look at the information?
The owner over there actually posted up the fx dealer price list. There was a potential delay from Puerto Rico, but the fx troops blew him off a few times, after the buyer flew in from his country to AOA. Really interesting to see a 200-350% mark up, on just about every fx gun. It shows something like the boss for $1050, instead of the absurd price it is listed for.
https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fapp.box.com%2Fs%2Fxxsyqwffr8hymlgsafzc8rflwydhvo1w
https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fapp.box.com%2Fs%2Fj4bs3wlj1zb76owrswx0lv2iekc7ghj9
That is one heck of a markup. I just paid $1995.00 for a new Boss .30 synthetic and if the price sheet is correct, wholesale it sold for $870.89 at the current euro to dollar rate. This is what happens when someone gets to have a monopoly on an entire product line in the US. They get to sell them at any price they want with no competing wholesaler to keep the price in line.
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I am more than familiar with the issue, and am sick to death of all the whining on the yellow, and am hoping that this toxic issue does not take root here. More than a few of us have recently been banned from the yellow for expressing opinions not in line with Steve's agenda.
Instead of posting useless things to the topic, why not look at the information?
The owner over there actually posted up the fx dealer price list. There was a potential delay from Puerto Rico, but the fx troops blew him off a few times, after the buyer flew in from his country to AOA. Really interesting to see a 200-350% mark up, on just about every fx gun. It shows something like the boss for $1050, instead of the absurd price it is listed for.
https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fapp.box.com%2Fs%2Fxxsyqwffr8hymlgsafzc8rflwydhvo1w
https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fapp.box.com%2Fs%2Fj4bs3wlj1zb76owrswx0lv2iekc7ghj9
Before we start pointing fingers and thinking it only happens there let me assure you that it happens here as well. A friend of mine who at one time was a member here was banned for life for simply posting how they were treated by a vendor who has connections on this very forum. No one ever finds out about it because once your banned your voice is gone from the forum unless someone who still has access posts about it. Many like to think that we live in a free society where you can speak your mind on these forums but when money gets mixed into decision making about who gets to say what because it might upset those who provide financial support, you figure out who gets to stay and who gets banned after being labeled a trouble maker for just posting their own personal experience with a vendor. This is all I have to say on the matter for fear that I might get banned. :o If you don't here from me again you know what happened. :-[
GUARANTEE you there was more to that story that simply someone posting about a bad transaction.
You will not be banned either unless you flagrantly violate the rules of the forum. Certainly is not a money issue, we are a member owned and managed forum. We're not sponsored and never will sell advertising on our forum.
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I too hate the politics over on that forum, but was surprised to see these lists. Though honestly you could just check other European sites to see the differences.
To the Op......it does look like a decent rifle, seems everyone is jumping on the bullpup bandwagon. Looks very similar to the bobcat, just a different stock and a forward charging handle.
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I think they should have used the Monsoon action. Just shorten the .22 barrel to 15-16" and put it in a bullpup stock. Nice compact and reliable full power semi-auto bullpup, something that Calibrgun couldn't achieve.
That does sound interesting. Maybe even give it a little more energy.
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I am more than familiar with the issue, and am sick to death of all the whining on the yellow, and am hoping that this toxic issue does not take root here. More than a few of us have recently been banned from the yellow for expressing opinions not in line with Steve's agenda.
Instead of posting useless things to the topic, why not look at the information?
The owner over there actually posted up the fx dealer price list. There was a potential delay from Puerto Rico, but the fx troops blew him off a few times, after the buyer flew in from his country to AOA. Really interesting to see a 200-350% mark up, on just about every fx gun. It shows something like the boss for $1050, instead of the absurd price it is listed for.
https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fapp.box.com%2Fs%2Fxxsyqwffr8hymlgsafzc8rflwydhvo1w
https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fapp.box.com%2Fs%2Fj4bs3wlj1zb76owrswx0lv2iekc7ghj9
Before we start pointing fingers and thinking it only happens there let me assure you that it happens here as well. A friend of mine who at one time was a member here was banned for life for simply posting how they were treated by a vendor who has connections on this very forum. No one ever finds out about it because once your banned your voice is gone from the forum unless someone who still has access posts about it. Many like to think that we live in a free society where you can speak your mind on these forums but when money gets mixed into decision making about who gets to say what because it might upset those who provide financial support, you figure out who gets to stay and who gets banned after being labeled a trouble maker for just posting their own personal experience with a vendor. This is all I have to say on the matter for fear that I might get banned. :o If you don't here from me again you know what happened. :-[
GUARANTEE you there was more to that story that simply someone posting about a bad transaction.
You will not be banned either unless you flagrantly violate the rules of the forum. Certainly is not a money issue, we are a member owned and managed forum. We're not sponsored and never will sell advertising on our forum.
This is what I value most about the GTA. Once you start taking money it's hard to stay objective as so many examples have displayed.
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OhOh Bullpupmania in full effect
https://scontent-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/11021430_612996208845100_7042400119309310260_o.jpg
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OhOh Bullpupmania in full effect
https://scontent-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/11021430_612996208845100_7042400119309310260_o.jpg
;) Cute it looks like my AF Edge's bigger cousin , also interesting I may have to continue working awhile longer to continue funding my obsession/addiction for new toys :o ::) ;D
Besides I don't have an FX rifle yet and no bull pup either ::)
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OhOh Bullpupmania in full effect
https://scontent-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/11021430_612996208845100_7042400119309310260_o.jpg
;) Cute it looks like my AF Edge's bigger cousin , also interesting I may have to continue working awhile longer to continue funding my obsession/addiction for new toys :o ::) ;D
Besides I don't have an FX rifle yet and no bull pup either ::)
This is rather tempting on a lot of counts. AR grip interchangeability, calibre interchangeability, all metal.
Oh yea, and nowhere near as freakshow ugly as that reject from a B movie bull that Crosmans trying to hype ;D
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To me the Impact looks ok but I like the looks of the Wildcat better. I certainly like $1300 better than the $2500-$3000 the Impact is going to cost. These prices are getting out of hand but supply and demand. If no one buys them watch and see what the price drops to. If the Wildcat is a good shooter I think it will be a big hit.
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I don't think anyone knows what the Impact will cost. But we will all know soon enough. Don't worry. Be happy.
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Wow, I know ONE of the things I'll be dreaming about tonight !
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you are right. if it wont be more than 1300-1500, they will be sold miillions :D
No way !!!!! .....I just can't see that gun at that price,
I'm calling -/+ 1800 bucks
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Another nice FX!
Wow, one more thng I 'll be dreaming about tonight !
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With the lowering of the other rifles I would guess around the $1500 or less.
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If indeed that is gonna be the price, with all those features they'll kill the market :) :) :)
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With the lowering of the other rifles I would guess around the $1500 or less.
I hope your right Chris. Really how much do you think it costs FX in labor and material?
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I am more than familiar with the issue, and am sick to death of all the whining on the yellow, and am hoping that this toxic issue does not take root here. More than a few of us have recently been banned from the yellow for expressing opinions not in line with Steve's agenda.
Instead of posting useless things to the topic, why not look at the information?
The owner over there actually posted up the fx dealer price list. There was a potential delay from Puerto Rico, but the fx troops blew him off a few times, after the buyer flew in from his country to AOA. Really interesting to see a 200-350% mark up, on just about every fx gun. It shows something like the boss for $1050, instead of the absurd price it is listed for.
https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fapp.box.com%2Fs%2Fxxsyqwffr8hymlgsafzc8rflwydhvo1w
https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fapp.box.com%2Fs%2Fj4bs3wlj1zb76owrswx0lv2iekc7ghj9
In spades.
You get a very skewed picture of the issue from that site. Not least of which is somehow an attitude of entitlement toward being able to tell a vendor how to run their business.
No one seems to realize there that Puerto Rico is considered US territory for business. They already have a US distributor so...
Now they're slagging on Steyr , who's next I wonder?
Pay attention that guy wanted SOUTH AMERICA TERRITORY
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Guys lets stay on topic this thread is about the 2 new additions in the FX Bull Pup stable not about vendors or the business practices of same . We already had a bash the vendor thread and it did not end well
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Guys lets stay on topic this thread is about the 2 new additions in the FX Bull Pup stable not about vendors or the business practices of same . We already had a bash the vendor thread and it did not end well
Thank you, I'm so over listening over and over to those guys with an obvious agenda.
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Ok guys this thread was about a bullpup seems it got caught up in who sells what and where and how they do business, no one makes you go there or purchase their products, so keep it about the airgun not the politics of another forum or vendor, no more negative comments about the vendor or the other forum please. I will not comment again guys. David
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With the lowering of the other rifles I would guess around the $1500 or less.
In the video showing Axel putting the Impact together, did anyone else notice that a scope was included in the case holding the Impact? If a scope with QD mounts is included with the gun, then the price will definitely be in the $1800+ range with just one barrel.
If you haven't seen the video, here is the link: http://youtu.be/modfhp9hi6Q (http://youtu.be/modfhp9hi6Q)
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With the lowering of the other rifles I would guess around the $1500 or less.
In the video showing Axel putting the Impact together, did anyone else notice that a scope was included in the case holding the Impact? If a scope with QD mounts is included with the gun, then the price will definitely be in the $1800+ range with just one barrel.
If you haven't seen the video, here is the link: http://youtu.be/modfhp9hi6Q (http://youtu.be/modfhp9hi6Q)
One of the Brit Dealers I look at occasionally makes a specific point in mentioning the optics are NOT included. Perhaps there will be 2 kits one with a scope and one allowing your own choice of optics.
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Are those UTG mounts ? :o
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With the lowering of the other rifles I would guess around the $1500 or less.
In the video showing Axel putting the Impact together, did anyone else notice that a scope was included in the case holding the Impact? If a scope with QD mounts is included with the gun, then the price will definitely be in the $1800+ range with just one barrel.
If you haven't seen the video, here is the link: http://youtu.be/modfhp9hi6Q (http://youtu.be/modfhp9hi6Q)
The redesigned FX Bobcat Mk2 was just released at $1700.. The Impact will be at least $300 more or the new Bobcat Mk2 will not sell. I hope I am wrong but my guess is $2200 to $2300. AoA is going to charge big time for the accessories, the moderator and interchangeable barrels
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i wonder when we are going to be able to see one being fired?
shoot that thing! ;D
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Guys lets stay on topic this thread is about the 2 new additions in the FX Bull Pup stable not about vendors or the business practices of same . We already had a bash the vendor thread and it did not end well
Thank you, I'm so over listening over and over to those guys with an obvious agenda.
Agenda ? Seems like you are the one with a major agenda sir. How much does the Koreans pay you to keep saying what you do to sell all these guns for them ?????
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Take this up in email, pm or on the phone. NOT open forum.
Thread locked...thanks for that.