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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => Air Gun Gate => Topic started by: Genolution on January 16, 2015, 08:48:54 PM
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Since I have been twiddling my thumbs waiting for air gun reform in Michigan, I have had lots of time to consider my options. While there are many models I would love to have I think I have managed to condense A short list of "must haves".
1) Benjamin Discovery (22). Because I love how easy it is to pump being that it operates on less than 2,000 psi while still delivering a respectable amount of power on small game. The customization options seem endless. And I have yet to read any discouraging reviews.
2) any one of 2260/1322/2289 (.22). Because when modified I believe they could be excellent small game hunters that can fit in a backpack. And tinkering and customizing appeals to my OCD....OCD, I hate that acronym because the letters are not in alphabetical order:)
3) Kalibrgun cricket carbine (.25) Because It is just beautiful. And I hear it shoots pretty straight too.
Well, that's my short list. What have you been eyeballing lately? I would love to hear what some more experienced and discerning enthusiasts/addicts have on their short list and why.
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There's only one air rifle I want.
A FX Bobcat .25.
$1800 here. If I buy it from Sweden, $1100.
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A Benjamin Discovery .22, complete with pump. The idea of being able to leave it fully charged indefinitely is very appealing, plus I'm really curious about the PCP business. Wouldn't have to worry about any springer-rating on a scope either- & I have several scopes that would work just fine, that's one thing wouldn't have to buy. Lightly modded, with a- ah- moderator, or shroud, it should make very good medicine for house-destroying furry-tailed tree rats- be they fox, gray, or black(we have all three here). Or even raccoons, they've become big trouble too.
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There's only one air rifle I want.
A FX Bobcat .25.
$1800 here. If I buy it from Sweden, $1100.
Ah yes, I seen that on Teds holdover. They seem to be quite accurate. The bobcat indy is on my slightly longer list.
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The AirGuns on my short to get list are:
Crosman 140.
Crosman 2240.
Daisy 35.
Daisy 22SG.
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I don't think I can go much longer without owning a CZ200.
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I don't think I can go much longer without owning a CZ200.
My super tuned CZ200S will be here Monday. ;)
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Congrats! My CZ200s 'colour' will be ordered as soon as the Christmas bills are all paid and I get the ok from the financial advisor. Lol
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My list is more of a finish what needs gettin' done on what i've got.
1- repeater mod for my otherwise bone stock FDPCP,... (oh yeah,.. and a Gen 2 bolt), ... and a fill block with a gauge.
2- Full Mac-1 treatment on the old blue streak rocker
3- full overhaul on the old TO1 D48
4- full overhaul on the Winchester 425, (my very first rifle when I was a kid)
5- reseal/rework the failed FT piston in the 1377/2289 carbine
6- Crony and Digital scale
7- NV thru scope camera set-up
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Looking at the Evanix Rainstorm II .357, just have to work a little harder but it will be worth it in the end. :D
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HW30S is at the top of my wishlist.
edit- .177 cal.
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Well I have been eyeing the air ordance rolling block rifle.
Just waiting on reviews.
Dave
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I don't think I can go much longer without owning a CZ200.
My super tuned CZ200S will be here Monday. ;)
Uhm, Monday is a holiday.
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Hatsan big bore.
...Plus, it would be good to know more about an FX Bobcat .25 available $1100.
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I don't think I can go much longer without owning a CZ200.
didn't know anything about them till you mentioned it. The Scott variant looks real nice. I'll have to do some research on them when i get home from work.
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I think I'd like to have a tuned Beeman R9. I think that I'll finance it by selling a seldom shot Kimber Custom Target II.
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Hatsan big bore.
...Plus, it would be good to know more about an FX Bobcat .25 available $1100.
I was wrong. It's $1200.
9800 SEK (Swedish Krona)
And, if you're outside the EU it's 20% off.
http://luftvapen.e-butiken.se/luftgevar/fx-airguns/fx-bobcat (http://luftvapen.e-butiken.se/luftgevar/fx-airguns/fx-bobcat)
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I don't think I can go much longer without owning a CZ200.
My super tuned CZ200S will be here Monday. ;)
Uhm, Monday is a holiday.
UPS delivers Monday. I asked if I could pick it up this morning and they said I had to wait. :(
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Hatsan big bore.
...Plus, it would be good to know more about an FX Bobcat .25 available $1100.
I was wrong. It's $1200.
9800 SEK (Swedish Krona)
And, if you're outside the EU it's 20% off.
http://luftvapen.e-butiken.se/luftgevar/fx-airguns/fx-bobcat (http://luftvapen.e-butiken.se/luftgevar/fx-airguns/fx-bobcat)
That's still a fine deal.
Many thanks.
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For me it looks like a fully-tuned FD XS28M: http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=81270.0 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=81270.0)
I'm also considering a pellet co2 pistol with blowback just for fun... Not sure which one yet.
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short immediate list?
daystate wolverine b type and fx royale 400 undecided which caliber .177 or .22
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My 34 Compact has a stress crack above the trigger guard. A new stock is on my wish list.
Link: http://www.dlairgun.com/Accessories/Diana/002_34_Premium_Grade_Stock_DIA34S-PR.html (http://www.dlairgun.com/Accessories/Diana/002_34_Premium_Grade_Stock_DIA34S-PR.html)
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My 34 Compact has a stress crack above the trigger guard. A new stock is on my wish list.
Link: http://www.dlairgun.com/Accessories/Diana/002_34_Premium_Grade_Stock_DIA34S-PR.html (http://www.dlairgun.com/Accessories/Diana/002_34_Premium_Grade_Stock_DIA34S-PR.html)
So does mine.
Thanks for the link.
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Since this is a wish list I'll start with what I want the most and work my way down.
Kalibr Colibri Hummingbird - silver finish, .22, black stock.
Extreme Big Bore or XP Airguns - Something 500-1000 fpe 2-3 shots.
Those 2 along with my Talonp would cover my plinking and Hunting.
Guns I want just for messing around with. (Not in any order)
Remington Express wood stock (Clearance sales make this a great valve)
Hatsan 135 in .177 (The kid in me still wants to see how fast I can make a pellet go and the crack is cool)
Crosman NP2 .22 camo (I like my NP Trail and want to try the NP2)
Marauder 2nd gen .22 cal.(Refrub. if the price was right)
Webley Alecto Ultra .177 or Webley Alecto .20 cal (No ultra in .20)
Weihrauch HW30S (I just want one)
Gamo Shadow 1000 in Nickel finish (Used, no longer made)
I could go on.....I doubt I will spend much on another airgun though, I'll go for the Kalibr Colibri (Hummingbird) before investing too much in another airgun. I Don't have time shoot and tinker with what I got already.
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.177 Diana 470th.
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Just the parts to build a couple 30-60 fpe pumpers
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I just ordered an HW30S to bring out when guests come over. Other than that I am very satisfied with what I have. Is there something wrong with me? lol
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I just ordered an HW30S to bring out when guests come over. Other than that I am very satisfied with what I have. Is there something wrong with me? lol
Very nice collection there.
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1) A nice side-wheel scope
2) Webley Alecto
3) and since its a wish list next up would be a HPA compressor
Joseph
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1) A nice side-wheel scope
2) Webley Alecto
3) and since its a wish list next up would be a HPA compressor
Joseph
Webley huh? perhaps this will interest you. A 1950's webley pistol for $93. etsy.com/listing/203828200/1950s-webley-scott-junior-177-air-pistol?utm_source=google&utm_medium=product_listing_promoted&utm_campaign=vintage-collectibles-mid-other&ione_adtype=pla&ione_creative=56602800875&ione_product_id=203828200&ione_product_partition_id=91552439315&ione_store_code=&ione_device=c&ione_product_channel=online&ione_merchant_id=101416556&ione_product_country=US&ione_product_language=en&gclid=Cj0KEQiAreilBRDzrNfb6uqX4fwBEiQAk-MRY1lqto_c30GRGA0Bf7nKnRIoPiz0moeCpMl8V6dd9YsaAutu8P8HAQ
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MAX-ML .45 cal BullPup
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1. Sumatra 2500 .25 https://www.pyramydair.com/product/seneca-sumatra-2500-500cc-reservoir?m=1077 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/seneca-sumatra-2500-500cc-reservoir?m=1077) 8)
2. Crosman 2200 for modding ;D
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;D There are a few I would really like to have a nice 392 Racine model, a RAW HM1000X .357 ,an HW 98 .177 and an HW97K
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a .22 pumper that shoots 700fps and is very accurate,
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a .22 pumper that shoots 700fps and is very accurate,
=Daisy 22X plus some power mods, or Crosman 1400, or good Benjamin 392.
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Parts, wood and maybe some new tools to work more on the Daisy 880/901/35 to .22 conversions and mods. And a chrony to verify results. 15fpe is all I want and it has been done with these. :D
Oh, and TIME to work on them. :D
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well its a wish list so im wishing for a march scope 8x80x56 http://marchscopes.com/tactical-8-80-x-56.html (http://marchscopes.com/tactical-8-80-x-56.html)
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;D There are a few I would really like to have a nice 392 Racine model, a RAW HM1000X .357 ,an HW 98 .177 and an HW97K
The last 2 tell me you have been hanging with Joe P too much. Personal experience tells me they are nice.
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As of today my wish list is caught up. I now have the parts to switch back and forth between a 2289g, 2240, and 2240 HPA (many parts shared), and my Crosman 140 is in route.
I already have all of the optics I want, I already have all the tools I want (mill, metal working lathe, drill press, drimel, and a large assortment of hand tools).
So the only thing left is raw materials, to make unique new parts :) . The only thing left on my wish list.
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My CZ200S will be here tomorrow, I was told it is so accurate that my other rifles will be closet jewelry.
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Jesse what are you doing for air?
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Jesse what are you doing for air?
I use a nebulizer to breath, oh wait you are talking about my PCPs. I have a full armor Great White (from air tanks for sale) with all the bells and whistles. :)
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I wish the bullets I ordered from Big Lube last November would arrive.
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I wish the bullets I ordered from Big Lube last November would arrive.
Call them. :)
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I've been reading up on those cz's. If I was sure I could get 25-30 fpe from one with readily available parts I may have to update my wishlist lol
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Hammerli in .22
Galatian QE in .25
Fax Bobcat in .25
In that order-hey babe, are you listening...did you hear that???
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Short list?
1720T Rapid70 bullpup
13xx/2100 Hybrid pumper
.30 QB PCP
Long List? Above, plus:
Dawson/Chip Smith/220 Swift .30 rifle
USFT Hunter non-regulated in .20
Rainstorm in .30, with a TJ barrel and Neil Clague LDC
.25 disco
Modified BS4
Smooth Twist .25 Condor SS
Doug Noble .257 w/custom frame
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Short list;
A regulated PCP in .22 or .25 - still reading up on them, all new to me
Diana 6G .177
Chronograph
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;D There are a few I would really like to have a nice 392 Racine model, a RAW HM1000X .357 ,an HW 98 .177 and an HW97K
I'm with you Don. The HW 100 is a hard act to follow. I want a RAW in 22 for long distance bench shooting.
Tom
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Short list;
A regulated PCP in .22 or .25 - still reading up on them, all new to me
Diana 6G .177
Chronograph
As of today my wish list is caught up. I now have the parts to switch back and forth between a 2289g, 2240, and 2240 HPA (many parts shared), and my Crosman 140 is in route.
I already have all of the optics I want, I already have all the tools I want (mill, metal working lathe, drill press, drimel, and a large assortment of hand tools).
So the only thing left is raw materials, to make unique new parts :) . The only thing left on my wish list.
Oh yea, and a chronograph :) .
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+1 to chronograph.
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1. Daystate Huntsman .22
2. Mac1 Steroid Blue Streak
3. Beeman R1 Carbine .20
4. HW77 .177
5. Diana 460 .22
6. I could probably go all the way up into the 50's
Scotty
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A gun that you don't have to pump, use CO2, does not need HPA, has no springs or pistons. Shoots dime sized groups out to 100 yards. Is not hold sensitive and cleans and lubes itself. Has a scope that never needs to be aligned. Has a beautiful metal and wood finish, and best of all is free! (Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and Fairy Godmother, please take note) In short, Super Airgun! :P ::) ;D
My second choice would be a Drozd Blackbird. 8)
I'd settle for an Umarex EBOS ;D
I'd probably accept another Steel Storm. :D
I'll actually end up with a tin of pellets. ;)
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A gun that you don't have to pump, use CO2, does not need HPA, has no springs or pistons. Shoots dime sized groups out to 100 yards. Is not hold sensitive and cleans and lubes itself. Has a scope that never needs to be aligned. Has a beautiful metal and wood finish, and best of all is free! (Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and Fairy Godmother, please take note) In short, Super Airgun!
I think you left out the "and has 783 FPE using WallyWorld CPHP's in a tin, no sorting, no washing" ;-)
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I'll add one more DREAM gun to my list:
Uses a form of air cartridges that is no bigger than 45-70 cartridge, is .25 and/or .30 caliber, has minute of squirrel accuracy, and looks like a 1874 Sharps rifle...
projectile area of the cartridge is sized for either pellets, or boolits
has a TJ barrel liner with octagonal outer barrel
barrels can be changed out depending on caliber, and type of projectile
has 4 standard barrels- 2 in .25, 2 in .30- pellet or boolit
power is regulated by how much pressure you put in the air cartridge
the rifle is made so that any sights that a Sharps rifle can use, the air rifle can use
double set-triggers (of course!!)
I think that right there is THE dream rifle for me!!!
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A long healthy life with a lot of shooting hours....
Which, btw, can be accompanied with a nice AA TX200 HC .177 ;D
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MAX-ML .45 cal BullPup
I had thought about getting one in .25 cal but just couldn't get enough info on them. All the critical review coverage is on the semi auto version and the .357. I see you have a few evanix rifles. What kind of accuracy and shot count would you expect from a tuned .25 ml?
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I've been reading up on those cz's. If I was sure I could get 25-30 fpe from one with readily available parts I may have to update my wishlist lol
Check out the Brocock Concept if you like the CZ200 but want 25 fpe. Hard to compare a 15 vs 25 fpe rifle but those Concepts are very accurate. They are made in England, 6 pounds, six shot repeaters with German Weihrauch barrels. I had the last generation Concept and it was as accurate as I could shoot.
Top gun has them on sale for $695. Link: http://www.topgun-airguns.com/Concept-Elite_p_75.html (http://www.topgun-airguns.com/Concept-Elite_p_75.html)
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I just got this, it is love at first sight.
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b548/Philidor58/CZ2002_zps89961288.jpg)
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A gun that you don't have to pump, use CO2, does not need HPA, has no springs or pistons. Shoots dime sized groups out to 100 yards. Is not hold sensitive and cleans and lubes itself. Has a scope that never needs to be aligned. Has a beautiful metal and wood finish, and best of all is free! (Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and Fairy Godmother, please take note) In short, Super Airgun!
I think you left out the "and has 783 FPE using WallyWorld CPHP's in a tin, no sorting, no washing" ;-)
That would be 4968 FPS!!!!! 8) 8) 8) ;D
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Short list....
Tank, Ive pumped long enough.
long list would be .357 repeater in the 200 fpe range
.45 in the 300 fpe range. both accurate and light.
Really long list would be a private chunk of land to hunt and
enough money so I could buy what I want and hunt more than I
work.
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AirForce Texan .45 Cal. 1000 FPS and capable of 500 FPE.
Coming in Mid April http://www.airforceairguns.com/The-Texan-by-AirForce-Airguns-s/118.htm (http://www.airforceairguns.com/The-Texan-by-AirForce-Airguns-s/118.htm)
I want a Cricket .25
I want a Daystate Regal XL .22
William
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A gun that you don't have to pump, use CO2, does not need HPA, has no springs or pistons. Shoots dime sized groups out to 100 yards. Is not hold sensitive and cleans and lubes itself. Has a scope that never needs to be aligned. Has a beautiful metal and wood finish, and best of all is free! (Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and Fairy Godmother, please take note) In short, Super Airgun!
I think you left out the "and has 783 FPE using WallyWorld CPHP's in a tin, no sorting, no washing" ;-)
I knew I was forgetting something! :P ;D
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A gun that you don't have to pump, use CO2, does not need HPA, has no springs or pistons. Shoots dime sized groups out to 100 yards. Is not hold sensitive and cleans and lubes itself. Has a scope that never needs to be aligned. Has a beautiful metal and wood finish, and best of all is free! (Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and Fairy Godmother, please take note) In short, Super Airgun!
I think you left out the "and has 783 FPE using WallyWorld CPHP's in a tin, no sorting, no washing" ;-)
I knew I was forgetting something! :P ;D
You do realize that is 5000 FPS +/- a foot or 2 lol
I bet that thing would melt in mid air :o
I would hate to get hit with a piece of 2000 degree piece of molten lead or maybe by the time it hit it would be molten gas lol
William
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AirForce Texan .45 Cal. 1000 FPS and capable of 500 FPE.
Coming in Mid April http://www.airforceairguns.com/The-Texan-by-AirForce-Airguns-s/118.htm (http://www.airforceairguns.com/The-Texan-by-AirForce-Airguns-s/118.htm)
I want a Cricket .25
I want a Daystate Regal XL .22
William
A Cricket .25 rifle or bullbup?
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AirForce Texan .45 Cal. 1000 FPS and capable of 500 FPE.
Coming in Mid April http://www.airforceairguns.com/The-Texan-by-AirForce-Airguns-s/118.htm (http://www.airforceairguns.com/The-Texan-by-AirForce-Airguns-s/118.htm)
I want a Cricket .25
I want a Daystate Regal XL .22
William
A Cricket .25 rifle or bullbup?
Sorry, Bullpup! Lightweight and easy to get around in the woods and thick under growth.
William
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A gun that you don't have to pump, use CO2, does not need HPA, has no springs or pistons. Shoots dime sized groups out to 100 yards. Is not hold sensitive and cleans and lubes itself. Has a scope that never needs to be aligned. Has a beautiful metal and wood finish, and best of all is free! (Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and Fairy Godmother, please take note) In short, Super Airgun!
I think you left out the "and has 783 FPE using WallyWorld CPHP's in a tin, no sorting, no washing" ;-)
I knew I was forgetting something! :P ;D
You do realize that is 5000 FPS +/- a foot or 2 lol
I bet that thing would melt in mid air :o
I would hate to get hit with a piece of 2000 degree piece of molten lead or maybe by the time it hit it would be molten gas lol
William
Sounds like a kinetic energy round hitting a tank! :o
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AirForce Texan .45 Cal. 1000 FPS and capable of 500 FPE.
Coming in Mid April http://www.airforceairguns.com/The-Texan-by-AirForce-Airguns-s/118.htm (http://www.airforceairguns.com/The-Texan-by-AirForce-Airguns-s/118.htm)
I want a Cricket .25
I want a Daystate Regal XL .22
William
A Cricket .25 rifle or bullbup?
Sorry, Bullpup! Lightweight and easy to get around in the woods and thick under growth.
William
Important.. You never know who might be reading.
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Next up on my list is a Crosman 101 or three. Then a 120 to round out the collection :).
It would be nice to see someone mass produce something like these again.
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Next up on my list is a Crosman 101 or three. Then a 120 to round out the collection :).
It would be nice to see someone mass produce something like these again.
Nobody makes those kind of rifles because nobody cares about them anymore, LOL .....popular demand is for completely different guns, pumpers are a dieing breed ;)
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MAX-ML .45 cal BullPup
I had thought about getting one in .25 cal but just couldn't get enough info on them. All the critical review coverage is on the semi auto version and the .357. I see you have a few evanix rifles. What kind of accuracy and shot count would you expect from a tuned .25 ml?
Essentially a MAX-ML .25 is the same gun as a Rainstorm .25 so anything you read about a Rainstorm .25 will be what you get in the MAX-ML
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I personally hate wish lists. Unless you are rich, it's a waste of time. As the old saying goes, if wishes were horses, beggars would ride. And who could forget the old 'poop in one hand and wish in the other. See which one fills first'. :o Better to just be happy with what you have. (getting off my soapbox now)
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Next up on my list is a Crosman 101 or three. Then a 120 to round out the collection :).
It would be nice to see someone mass produce something like these again.
Nobody makes those kind of rifles because nobody cares about them anymore, LOL .....popular demand is for completely different guns, pumpers are a dieing breed ;)
Technically that is what y'all is shootin ya jest pump a different way... ;)
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Next up on my list is a Crosman 101 or three. Then a 120 to round out the collection :).
It would be nice to see someone mass produce something like these again.
Nobody makes those kind of rifles because nobody cares about them anymore, LOL .....popular demand is for completely different guns, pumpers are a dieing breed ;)
Technically that is what y'all is shootin ya jest pump a different way... ;)
LOL, there's a reason why you don't see any new cool pumpers coming out from manufactures, ever,....but you see all kinds of every other types guns coming out daily,...fact :) :) :) :)
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My 34 Compact has a stress crack above the trigger guard. A new stock is on my wish list.
Link: http://www.dlairgun.com/Accessories/Diana/002_34_Premium_Grade_Stock_DIA34S-PR.html (http://www.dlairgun.com/Accessories/Diana/002_34_Premium_Grade_Stock_DIA34S-PR.html)
So does mine.
Thanks for the link.
I contacted D+L , they do not ship to the USA and the stock in the link will not fit the 34 Compact.
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My 34 Compact has a stress crack above the trigger guard. A new stock is on my wish list.
Link: http://www.dlairgun.com/Accessories/Diana/002_34_Premium_Grade_Stock_DIA34S-PR.html (http://www.dlairgun.com/Accessories/Diana/002_34_Premium_Grade_Stock_DIA34S-PR.html)
So does mine.
Thanks for the link.
I contacted D+L , they do not ship to the USA and the stock in the link will not fit the 34 Compact.
Thanks for letting me know.
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HW98 .177, TX200 .177
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Just got my wish last month after searching for almost a year. BSA Polaris .177 (discontinued in 2012). 1st springer, if I was granted another wish it would be a TX200.
Bill.
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There aren't many on my wishlist these days, as I have several air rifles that I really love and that are high quality. What I'd really like to find is a Baikal IJ-22, but I rarely see them. Awhile back, I thought about buying one, but didn't jump on it fast enough. If anyone sees one, please let me know.