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Support Equipment For PCP/HPA/CO2 and springers ,rams => Support Equipment For PCP/HPA/CO2 => Topic started by: wilsonj1018 on September 18, 2014, 05:17:22 PM
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alright guys, just accidentally ended up with a scba tank and I need a fill assy, im low on funds....
Josh
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Airhog sells one for $130.00
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...and I'm pretty sure Mac1 (on this forum) puts them together as well.
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I've been doing some research on this and the cheapest option by far for my tank (CGA-347 valve) is to buy parts separately. The setup I have planned looks like - CGA to NPT adapter->NPT cross connected to a bleed valve, gauge, and the hose. The whole setup should run around $100 using high quality components. Could be cheaper too but I'm figuring out which parts would be most cost effective.
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I had a cheap scuba yoke and whip that popped a hose after about sox months. You are money ahead by not skimping on high pressure gear, buy a decent piece from a reputable site (which I think includes those already suggested).
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ive had a cheap hose pop too. im not looking to skimp just get out the cheapest way.
Josh
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I ended up with 2 aluminum 45cubic ft tanks, that fill to 2216psi.
Like new, never used, they just sat in a rack with a care taker charge.
I intended to use them with my first PCP, filling to 1500psi.
But the cost of the cga347 fill adapter kept me from getting or building one.
(The price of building one was within $15-$20 of a new one from a reputable company)
If I was to buy one, it would be the one from Joe B. It has gauges for the gun side and the tank side.
But I rapidly outgrew the need for the 2216 tanks.
Now I need 2500-3000.
I just purchased a used 2 year old 4500 cf tank with the fill adapter from a reputable company,
for just a little more than the cost of the cga347 fill adapter.
Now I need to sell the 2 2216 tanks.
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yea this one is a 4500 tank with 4 yrs left fresh hydro too. so I guess I could buy one, but #@$^#^#^ my wallet just slapped me.
Josh
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yea this one is a 4500 tank with 4 yrs left fresh hydro too. so I guess I could buy one, but #@$^#^#^ my wallet just slapped me.
Josh
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Remember, the fill set up doesn't have an expiration date, nor time testing requirements. The tank is the weaker link in the equation. I learned the hard way.
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what did you learn?
Josh
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If I was to buy one, it would be the one from Joe B. It has gauges for the gun side and the tank side.
Don't get me wrong, I think Joe B. is a great guy and I appreciate his presence in this industry. But there may be other options depending on your needs. Here is a big question to consider: Do you plan to cart your tank places, or will it mostly sit there where you shoot? If you aren't going to move it around a lot, you might consider something like this:
http://rlairgun.com/ (http://rlairgun.com/)
A metal tank that will go to 4250psi - a lot of places only fill to 4200 anyway - and you aren't limited on your investment to a 15 year life. I will probably get one of these in the spring when I buy a new tank.
I'm still using a 3000psi scuba tank that meets my needs for the time. It sits in place mostly, but I strapped it to a golf club cart in case I decide to move it around.
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I shouldn't have said the tank, but instead the tank valve.
Figure out what you ultimately want. Scba tanks in general come with cga-347 valve, in the used market. Certain vendors offer scba tanks with din-300. Din-300 is a scuba standard, so moving up to scba may cause you to have to rebuy a fill assy, unless you have it planned out. Buy once, unlike what I did.
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gotcha.
Josh
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Guys cheap and high pressure go together like drinking and driving. Don't skimp on your fill station, theres a difference between bargain shopping and cheap. I have a $700 regulator that I got for $150 I think, fully tested by Tescom. Ordered my hose from Ralston Instrumentation,bleed valve from a Fire Fighter supply company and foster fitting from Tim at MAC 1 and its a true Foster fitting made in the ole USA. Just be careful guys, your not playing with a RED RYDER now, this stuff can KILL you if you don't take certain safety precautions. Happy shooting!
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ive been messing with hpa for years, im not stupid, or willing to compromise my safety, just near broke at the moment.
Josh
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I brought two used scba tanks and they had the gauge on it so I just needed the fill hose. had one made for 150.00 and it was thick, rated for 6000psi and wasted air.
brought this below from Pyramyd for 90.00 and have not had a issue in over a year using it, used less air built in bleeder.
(http://harryb.myftp.org:9090/filladapt.jpg)
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that sounds great. one problem, none of my pcps have a guage lol.
Josh
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There is a company that makes a gauge that attaches between the fill hose, and the gun.
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two options, you can go by the tank gauge or get a inline gauge.
i got a inline gauge for my rainstorm 3d after I had a reg installed.
(http://harryb.myftp.org:9090/inline.jpg)
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maybe, might just hold out for something more precise. thanks for all the replies guys.
Josh
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I can honestly say, having 1 gun without a gauge, and 2 with.
(I started the PCP world without a gauge on the gun)
I really don't mind not having one on the gun.
If I am plinking, I lay out 40 pellets in my tin cap.
Or just shoot until my poi starts to drop.
If you LISTEN to your gun, you can tell when you drop off.
If I am hunting, I don't worry about it..
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I like my old guageless classic pcps.... hard to beat em, just know how many to shoot before ya start.
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North Shore compressor sells all the pieces to build a fill unit. They don't sell the micro bore hose though.
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bought a used joeb one for less than you can build one for.
Josh
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Yeah I was adding up the pieces and it is pretty close. I make all my fill units female foster so the hose ends are male and female and I can use all my hoses on any setup.
I know it's out there but I couldn't find a place that sold the hoses besides Joe or Air Hog.
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ninja sells microbore hoses in varying lengths I believe.
Josh
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Yeah I was looking for the same material as Joe's. I found it in the UK. The ninja stuff says 4500 psi max and I'm not sure if that is there doing or the hose. Joe's are rated around 9000 psi.
I have compressor and go above 4500 so when it cools it's 4500 psi.