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Title: Push coming to shove......
Post by: Cousin Jack on May 08, 2014, 07:53:26 PM
I've mentioned this before, but push is coming to shove.....   I want to shoot our 3 or 4 position smallbore league with an air rifle this year, mainly because of the smallbore ammunition shortage..... there isn't enough of it around to practice with.... The league leadership have given their permission to do so.   I've got an RWS Model 75 which I shoot all standing at home for rifle silhouette practice, but it's too awkward to cock in the positions.  I need a very accurate PCP......   so, which one should I buy?   (I can't afford a match rifle, and, at my age, I don't even buy green bananas anymore!  My apologies to George Burns!)   I'd like to go with a Discovery, but I think it's too light...  I'm not sure about the tuning of an M-Rod; how difficult would it be to make it hold the ten ring at 50'?  I think my choice is between the Crossman Challenger 2009 or the Crossman MAR 177 AR upper (I've got a good AR in my safe already...).

Anybody on here with any competition smallbore position experience?   What gun would you buy?
Title: Re: Push coming to shove......
Post by: Motorhead on May 08, 2014, 08:15:21 PM
If you got $1500/1800 to spend get a regulated RAW HM-1000. ( Rapid Air Weapons )
Only a grand or so ... an Air Arms 500/510

JMO
Title: Re: Push coming to shove......
Post by: k-man on May 08, 2014, 08:48:27 PM
Maybe a cz200s. Very accurate. And easy and cheap to tune. K- man
Title: Re: Push coming to shove......
Post by: punkguy0017 on May 08, 2014, 09:02:37 PM
Get the flying dragon PCP 100 bucks shipped
Title: Re: Push coming to shove......
Post by: Kailua on May 08, 2014, 10:28:14 PM
Do you think a RWS 48 side lever might work for you?  If a PCP and the needed accessories are to expensive.
Title: Re: Push coming to shove......
Post by: Cousin Jack on May 08, 2014, 10:50:24 PM
Do you think a RWS 48 side lever might work for you?  If a PCP and the needed accessories are to expensive.

My RWS Model 75 is a side-lever, and capable of match grade accuracy.....I can shoot it kneeling and standing, but prone's a struggle....
Title: Re: Push coming to shove......
Post by: geewhiz380 on May 08, 2014, 11:30:11 PM
perhaps a used rws54,rws34, beeman r7, beeman r9 and rws 48 that Kailua mentioned ... many good chioces were presented to u some expensive some not so ,if u had friends that have those mentioned here maybe u could shoot there ags and see what better fits you i even recommend a slavia 634 there good out the box and gets better with usage trigger tune might be needed ...
Title: Re: Push coming to shove......
Post by: Bryan Heimann on May 08, 2014, 11:36:01 PM
First thing that popped in my head is a Marauder.  I read that the .25 is the most accurate out of the box due to the green mountain barrel.  Also, the .25's are supposed to do better in the wind.
Title: Re: Push coming to shove......
Post by: Roadworthy on May 08, 2014, 11:46:33 PM
If I understand your dilemma, it has to do with springers not being an option due to difficulty cocking in the prone position.

To choose the right rifle for you, the distance you plan to shoot and the money you expect to spend would be considerations.  For a PCP you will need a pump at the very least, or you could use CO2.  You need to learn the gun because, unless it's regulated, the point of impact shifts a little as pressure drops.

Another option might be .17 HMR.  I find that is available even when .22 LR is not.  Savage puts out a nice line of them and they all seem to have adjustable triggers.  They are a bit hotter than a .22 LR but they shoot pretty flat.
Title: Re: Push coming to shove......
Post by: Tyrantblade on May 09, 2014, 03:46:48 AM
If I understand your dilemma, it has to do with springers not being an option due to difficulty cocking in the prone position.

To choose the right rifle for you, the distance you plan to shoot and the money you expect to spend would be considerations.  For a PCP you will need a pump at the very least, or you could use CO2.  You need to learn the gun because, unless it's regulated, the point of impact shifts a little as pressure drops.

Another option might be .17 HMR.  I find that is available even when .22 LR is not.  Savage puts out a nice line of them and they all seem to have adjustable triggers.  They are a bit hotter than a .22 LR but they shoot pretty flat.
that's odd, I find that locally it seems to be opposite, I've seen 22lr on shelves usually at least once a week (not always any sort of quantity though), meanwhile haven't seen any 17 HMR on the shelves. At any rate several good recommendations so far, if consider an Mrod, maybe a hatsan would do (some places seem to be clearing out the old non-moderated at44s at around the older style Mrod prices (by which I mean the ones without the factory HDD, valves changes and higher price)
Title: Re: Push coming to shove......
Post by: Paul68 on May 09, 2014, 09:04:27 AM
How about a QB converted to HPA? You could buy one and send it to Mike at Flying Dragon for a workover and conversion. No fuss no muss.
Title: Re: Push coming to shove......
Post by: Bullit on May 09, 2014, 11:21:29 AM
Have you looked at the AA T200?   Same rifle as the CZ200. 
The CMP sells them for $525+$25 membership fee.  Saves you about a $100.   Scroll down the link to the AA T200:
http://www.odcmp.com/Sales/airrifles.htm (http://www.odcmp.com/Sales/airrifles.htm)