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Airguns by Make and Model => Weihrauch Airguns => Topic started by: Not The Brightest Bulb on August 27, 2013, 10:14:48 AM
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I ordered the gun yesterday but while I was browsing this morning I noticed a weird or maybe an outright lie.
The gun I ordered from PA said the cocking effort was 24 lbs, which basically what I have heard or read before, but today couple websites had the effort listed at 18 lbs. (never heard that before)
I had also read that the 24 lbs might have been exagerrated a bit and maybe should have been more, which did not disturb me. The 18 lbs was a bit much though. Another interesting thing was said, it was the S model but was not stamped with an S. I knew nothing about an S stamp or lack of one.
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The current 50S started life with the designation HW99. The old 50 had a low cocking effort around 18lbs. The current model is quite a bit more. Because of the articulated cocking lever it feels like 30lbs. With it being discontinued Weihrauch changed the name of the 99 to 50. The "S" denotes the Rekord trigger. My 50S isn't stamped with the S either but it has the Rekord.
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It's easy to cock up to that last couple of inches....feels more like thirty..
It's the configuration of the cocking lever . Would be nice to have a revamping....but all in all you couldn't get me to give up my 50s....Happy to hear you're getting your own. Lol
Happy SHootin!
Petey
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The current 50S started life with the designation HW99. The old 50 had a low cocking effort around 18lbs. The current model is quite a bit more. Because of the articulated cocking lever it feels like 30lbs. With it being discontinued Weihrauch changed the name of the 99 to 50. The "S" denotes the Rekord trigger. My 50S isn't stamped with the S either but it has the Rekord.
Thank you JimL
I did a copy/paste of that tidbit of info, I have mind like steel trap but each year it gets a little rustier so saving a little history is a good idea.
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It's easy to cock up to that last couple of inches....feels more like thirty..
It's the configuration of the cocking lever . Would be nice to have a revamping....but all in all you couldn't get me to give up my 50s....Happy to hear you're getting your own. Lol
Yes indeed, I had heard it was beefier than the 24 lbs, Geeeze you want to have fun it should not be stopped by a liitle effort.
It was funny the 18lber might be an older model but the price was $415.00. With PA's 10% my total was $350.07 they deducted the 10% but then no free shipping, It still was an adequate savings from the 379.99 price.
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The old 50 has been out of production for years. PA used to list two 50S's. One with fiber optic sights and one with inserts. Same gun different sights. They listed the old cocking effort on one.
While it is harder to cock it is still a fun accurate gun.
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Yes I saw the fiber optic pic in PA they had the "It Was Unavailable" ad. I actually would have preferred the fiber optic and asked if it could be put on. It was a "no". I've never shot using a cowl sight how different is it.
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Target acquisition with the front "cowl" sight is quick and easy. I'd just as soon have one, as one without.
I don't see any advantage of one over the other, nor disadvantage.
Bill in SC
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Hey, it's the fear of the unknown. All kidding aside it's just another small adventure.
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Great shooters! My HW50S in .22 is very accurate. You will love it! I agree with others on the cocking. Feels like 30lbs ,but still easy to shoot all day.
Your 50 should have the new fancy stock. ;D
Some pic's to help the wait.
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Thank you s10 for the pics, if Fed Ex does it's usual thing it should be here by 2:00 this afternoon. Will be running a few patches through it and checking all screws etc. Something I have not done before (pre forum days) Always assumed something new should be tight when you receive it, I know better now from numerous posts read.
My 5 year old Quest had the 1st checking of stock screws this year and did need some tightening, same with 18 month old Whisper. You can see why I carry the user name "Not brightest Bulb"
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A good thing to think about is doing a JM insert mod. Stops the double jointed cocking linkage from galling the compression tube. Easy to do. Tons of how too's here on gta.
http://www.airrifleheadquarters.com/catalog/item/251488/3216416.htm (http://www.airrifleheadquarters.com/catalog/item/251488/3216416.htm)
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http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=30711.msg418277;topicseen#msg418277 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=30711.msg418277;topicseen#msg418277)
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=32810.msg305463#msg305463 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=32810.msg305463#msg305463)
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Well the beauty is here. Pics aren't good, but gun is. Gonna have to learn how to operate safety as other 2 rifles had manual.
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now you have me regretting the decision i made instead of buying one of those.........nice gun though, congratulations on your new toy.
Josh
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1st thing that really surprised me is when I was checking screws for tightening (none did) they are all regular screw heads, no allen wrenches needed. It was suppose to weigh 6.8 lbs and it weighs 8.2 lbs, but I understand that the wood in stock varies a bit affecting weight. Anybody else notice a weight change in their HW50.
Tried the open sight Cowl and at 30 feet all shots in half dollar and this was with me forgetting to push safety off and restarting so I was pleased, the cocking was no problem but you have to shut it with a good snap as it is tight.
Do not like cowl sight at all because it would definitely be harder get munk in the sight. Question about the cowl sight, it appears there is just one screw on right side of sight and I'm assuming loosening that screw releases cowl sight, am I correct.
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Yes just loosen the screw and tap it off.
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Yes just loosen the screw and tap it off.
Thank you, I have a small rubber mallet that I can use for tapping. It's weird this is like an old school rifle everything is metal/steel. It's got a Made In Germany stamped in it.
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Yes just loosen the screw and tap it off.
Thank you, I have a small rubber mallet that I can use for tapping. It's weird this is like an old school rifle everything is metal/steel. It's got a Made In Germany stamped in it.
Now that you've got the front sight off, you might as well go ahead and order one of these (http://www.straightshooters.com/ss-muzzlebrake.html?&cat=255[/url).
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Now that you've got the front sight off, you might as well go ahead and order one of these.
Aside from a tad more leverage to cock gun what would a muzzle brake do. I know on a PB it helps somewhat with recoil and maybe noise. What does it do on an airgun. Remember my name is "Not Brightest Bulb In Box"
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;D not sure but I think same function
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The main thing is to protect the crown. Better grip when cocking and help lessen any muzzle flip.
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Get yourself a straight shooters muzzle brake for that 50. It's a nice weight and makes cocking a bit easier ......
http://www.straightshooters.com/ss-muzzlebrake.html (http://www.straightshooters.com/ss-muzzlebrake.html)
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa347/NPetey/50s/50s008.jpg) (http://s1193.photobucket.com/user/NPetey/media/50s/50s008.jpg.html)
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Get yourself a straight shooters muzzle brake for that 50. It's a nice weight and makes cocking a bit easier ......
http://www.straightshooters.com/ss-muzzlebrake.html (http://www.straightshooters.com/ss-muzzlebrake.html)
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa347/NPetey/50s/50s008.jpg) (http://s1193.photobucket.com/user/NPetey/media/50s/50s008.jpg.html)
Mine should be here on the 5th. $39 for the brake seems reasonable; however, $14.90 UPS ground shipping to an adjacent state seems to be 'gilding the lily', IMO. Oh well, it's only money, eh?
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Mine should be here on the 5th. $39 for the brake seems reasonable; however, $14.90 UPS ground shipping to an adjacent state seems to be 'gilding the lily', IMO. Oh well, it's only money, eh?
Sounds fine and actually looks pretty cool but probably gonna give it a pass if I need a machinist's help to install it. Spent 50 years training dogs, bird dog competition, personal protection, and always obedience. Have patience galore with dogs, absolutely none with mechanical anything. I pick up a wrench and a bolt will attack me or I end up breaking it.
He*l getting the front sight off will be a major operation for me and it's just loosening of screw and tapping it off.
I think Clint Eastwood said it best in Dirty Harry movie, "A mans got to know his limitations" Just
Sayin'...
Well I did check it out and bookmarked the sight, just in case I get to feeling brave. Get back with an install report.
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;D Now I get the dinosaur dog trainer after 500 posts you become a double old timer. Sometimes leaving your comfort zone makes for life more interesting but that is not always necessarily a good thing just more interesting ;) My wife is an RN and where change is concerned she's not real good with it but again sometimes leaving your comfort zone makes things batter as she has found out over time. Just get your friend the machinist to help. Good luck on the journey
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;D Now I get the dinosaur dog trainer after 500 posts you become a double old timer. Sometimes leaving your comfort zone makes for life more interesting but that is not always necessarily a good thing just more interesting ;) My wife is an RN and where change is concerned she's not real good with it but again sometimes leaving your comfort zone makes things batter as she has found out over time. Just get your friend the machinist to help. Good luck on the journey
No, the machinist close friend had a problem and I outlived him. A problem as you get older.
Some of these things sound like good winter projects, that's the time to ship gun to somebody who can do the work properly.
I'll wait for an OldGringo muzzle install report. (do have another friend, just not a machinist) One of the reasons I got the HW was the overall length, I like short, I also liked the 6.8 lbs weight that actually turned into 8.2 lbs when weighed here. (without scope addition) The extra leverage for cocking really not needed with 50 pellets shot I'm already getting the proper pattern for that. Everybody has said that it also will get easier/smoother etc.
It's pretty cool being able to draw from knowledge available on forum but I must be careful not to jump in the deep end of "Fix It Yourself Land".
You give me a wild freespirited dog and in 10 to 30 minutes I can have him walking on a loose lead comfortably, this is what I did for 50 years so it's not a big deal. Of course I have to read the dog and then use proper program. It's the same with people who have "the fix it talent" not like me. I'm in the people who "break things talent" pool.
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;D Love dogs but not the best person to train them :-[ ;D I can't get past sit and a few tricks but I can fix or repair almost anything I guess the out live thing can be a real PITA lost my wingman 10 years ago. He was the guy I called when a project was making me nuts
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Know the feeling, my fix it guy could literally fix anything except a life long battle with diabetes and the heart problem that finally busted his butt.
I see what happened here, I got your share of dog skills and you got my share of mechanical aptitude.
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;D ;D There you go ;)
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Get yourself a straight shooters muzzle brake for that 50. It's a nice weight and makes cocking a bit easier ......
http://www.straightshooters.com/ss-muzzlebrake.html (http://www.straightshooters.com/ss-muzzlebrake.html)
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa347/NPetey/50s/50s008.jpg) (http://s1193.photobucket.com/user/NPetey/media/50s/50s008.jpg.html)
Mine should be here on the 5th. $39 for the brake seems reasonable; however, $14.90 UPS ground shipping to an adjacent state seems to be 'gilding the lily', IMO. Oh well, it's only money, eh?
Greg,
I know what ya mean..... Especially when I can get twelve pounds of ammo shipped for the same price.
But wait till you get it in your hands. It's a very well made product.
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Mine should be here on the 5th. $39 for the brake seems reasonable; however, $14.90 UPS ground shipping to an adjacent state seems to be 'gilding the lily', IMO. Oh well, it's only money, eh?
Is that installation a simple progam on HW 50, I did get the front sight off without breaking or scarring of the gun. I do like the look it gives the gun.
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Yep ....Select the proper shim(included) slide it on and Tighten it down.....Done!
Remember, Your POI is going to drop as a result of the added weight.
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What are you tightening, are there set screws in the brake itself. Just remember the caliber of man that is asking this question. If you need help with that read title of other thread I started "Dumb And Dumber"
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What are you tightening, are there set screws in the brake itself. Just remember the caliber of man that is asking this question. If you need help with that read title of other thread I started "Dumb And Dumber"
There is a set screw...I believe the brake comes with instructions. If not , give a shout.
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Instructions good and nice to know I got backup.