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Title: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: snakebite4767 on August 12, 2013, 07:34:54 PM
OK Guys... I've been following the responses on my MAV77 posting. Got a email from Crosman that said release date is mid September... I wrestled with this for the past week, but that last post kind of  hit home.... when he said "If you want a TX200, then get a TX200" It reminded me of years ago when my Bro in Law was lamenting about some Imitation Bacon that he was eating for Breakfast... I told him "If you want bacon..... buy bacon".  So I decided to jump and get the TX200... called PA.. but they didn't have one in Walnut. The kid I talked with said that he thought the RWS 460 was a better rifle.

DANG! Now I'm back on the fence... don't know which is the best. I would sure appreciate some input and feed back on this. Please share your thoughts with me.

Thanks Pards.

Snakebite (chompin at the bits)  :-\
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: K_sqrd on August 12, 2013, 07:40:55 PM
What are you planning on using it for - punching paper, hunting, plinking, etc.? That would help
narrow the decision a bit.

For a TX200 you might try Pomona Air - they have good prices.

http://www.pomona-airguns.com/ (http://www.pomona-airguns.com/)

Straight Shooters handles both models...

http://www.straightshooters.com/ (http://www.straightshooters.com/)
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: Motorhead on August 12, 2013, 07:41:36 PM
Really not a Apples to Apples comparison  :o

Tx's are 14-16# POWER RIFLES
D460's 22-24# POWER RIFLES
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: SciGuy on August 12, 2013, 08:07:34 PM
Cannot compare the two.  Completely different beasts.  I've only shot a 460 a couple of times and that enough for me.  I'm not a magnum springer guy.  I prefer 12fpe with 14-15 being top-end.

Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: Petey on August 12, 2013, 08:40:08 PM
Really not a Apples to Apples comparison  :o

Tx's are 14-16# POWER RIFLES
D460's 22-24# POWER RIFLES

+1

also note , the good people at PA do work on commission.....and it's always easier to sell something you have in stock than something you don't.
JMTCW.

HAppy Shootin To All!
Petey

Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: snakebite4767 on August 12, 2013, 09:20:57 PM
Tnx for the feedback. I now have a cheap QB36 Chinese .177 that I bought for $29.95 a number of years ago. It's not any beauty, in fact it's as Ugly as a "Mud Fence", and has very little power.

I also have a Hatman 125 with the Camo stock in .22. It actually shoots pretty dern good, and has a whole lot of power.. however, the front muzzle brake and sight are not on straight. I guess it wouldn't matter if I were to put my new scope on it... but I don't like the High mounts, and if I use some low ones I would need to just cut off the front sight any way. I've pondered just sending it back and getting a Top Notch Gun. (Wish I just done that to start with) Being up in hills and so far from any fill station, I've about ruled out the PCP guns, even though that Marauder sure looks good.  I'm not a rich man, but at this point in time I don't have to turn in the Hatman in order to get a TX200, but if the TX200 would work just as well for hunting, it would be better than having one just sit in the safe. Is the TX200 in .22 a good choice for Hunting, or should I just keep the Hatman for Hunting, and get the TX200 in .177 for targets and "Drool" effect?

Snakebite
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: amb5500c on August 12, 2013, 09:32:14 PM
I'd go with the TX every time. IMO its plenty enough gun to do the job and the accuracy and workmanship speak for themselves.
Richard
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: Arjuna on August 12, 2013, 10:31:13 PM
I have no personal info on the RWS, but I'm happy with my Air Arms.

if availability of walnut is an issue to you, you might want to consider the beech.  Having owned, for a short time, both stocks on a Tx, I think you'd find that the walnut is verrrry nice, but I have to say that the beech is verrry nice (i had to send the walnut back for mechanical issues).  That is to say, I'm glad I didn't wait around for an unknown amount of time for walnut to come back in stock, and i have a new, gorgeous Tx to shoot, and I don't care so much about the difference between the woods.  Maybe I'm just impatient.  You get the fine fish scaling on both. 

 
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: palonej on August 12, 2013, 10:35:10 PM
TX in a heart beat.....although they are 2 very different guns it's VERY hard to beat Air Arms quality!! Mine is beech also, impatient, and it's an awesome rifle!!
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: Sfttailrdr46 on August 12, 2013, 10:50:32 PM
 ;D Although Joe is usually the worst enabler I'll take a shot (pun intended) at it. Both the TX 200 MKIII and the Diana 460 are under levers and extremely accurate the TX is definitely prettier and extremely accurate out of the box. The Diana 460 is every bit as accurate and hits harder I have both and can't decide which lady I prefer to shoot it depends on whether I am in the mood for refined or tough both are fun to shoot. MY answer is buy both just make sure to sell me the TX in.177 if you don't like her ;D ;D
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: Sfttailrdr46 on August 12, 2013, 10:51:23 PM
TX in a heart beat.....although they are 2 very different guns it's VERY hard to beat Air Arms quality!! Mine is beech also, impatient, and it's an awesome rifle!!
did you get the 56 th back yet?
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: GunnerAl on August 13, 2013, 07:28:12 AM
I have a leg in both camps...

I have a 470TH .22 (which is still a 460 at heart). I want a TX200 and plan to buy one before the end of the year... Accuracy, well, that's usually up to the shooter. Quite often the rifle is capable of outshooting the shooter's talent,, like in my case,, I couldn't hit anything unless I am in a shooting mood (blood pressure is nice 'n' low and the head is wrapped around the task at hand),, then I might do well. I haven't shot the 470 much at all but I do like the rifle very much. It appears to be a very well made and accuracy capable rifle and likes Crosman Premier pellets.

No matter which one you get, I'm sure you'll love it like it was the only airgun in the world - until the bug bites again.. Been there done that,, many times..!!
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: palonej on August 13, 2013, 10:14:50 AM
TX in a heart beat.....although they are 2 very different guns it's VERY hard to beat Air Arms quality!! Mine is beech also, impatient, and it's an awesome rifle!!
did you get the 56 th back yet?

She's on her way home and will be here Friday!!!
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: Minuteman on August 13, 2013, 11:44:33 AM
I have an RWS Model 54, and it is beastly, yet recoil is nothing as it is recoilless. But if I had to choose between it, and my TX200, no contest. TX wins hands down. And I love my Model 54. The TX is just that good. Got mine in walnut. She's an English beauty!

(http://i1364.photobucket.com/albums/r726/George_Bowen/My%20toys/Air%20Arms%20TX200%20MkIII/TX200-MkIII-BKL-mounts-web_zps0699e34f.jpg) (http://s1364.photobucket.com/user/George_Bowen/media/My%20toys/Air%20Arms%20TX200%20MkIII/TX200-MkIII-BKL-mounts-web_zps0699e34f.jpg.html)

(http://i1364.photobucket.com/albums/r726/George_Bowen/My%20toys/Air%20Arms%20TX200%20MkIII/TX200-MkIII-BKL-mounts-web-3_zpse37ebc68.jpg) (http://s1364.photobucket.com/user/George_Bowen/media/My%20toys/Air%20Arms%20TX200%20MkIII/TX200-MkIII-BKL-mounts-web-3_zpse37ebc68.jpg.html)
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: Chaffyn on August 13, 2013, 12:50:04 PM
I'm just a rank beginner, but you'd have to fight me to get my TX and I wouldn't
go down easy.  It's a dream machine.
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: Bullit on August 13, 2013, 01:35:10 PM
Get them both.  Then you'll have a pair of good underlever shooters, in 12fpe and 18fpe class.  That's what I've cut down to, and am very happy.
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: SciGuy on August 13, 2013, 02:46:54 PM
Get them both.  Then you'll have a pair of good underlever shooters, in 12fpe and 18fpe class.  That's what I've cut down to, and am very happy.

I tried to come up with an argument against this but just can't think of one.  You have no choice but to get both :)
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: Minuteman on August 13, 2013, 03:44:24 PM
Get them both.  Then you'll have a pair of good underlever shooters, in 12fpe and 18fpe class.  That's what I've cut down to, and am very happy.

I tried to come up with an argument against this but just can't think of one.  You have no choice but to get both :)

I came up against the same logic between my Model 54 and my TX200. They are both quite happy in my collection! (Not to mention me!  ;D )
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: Sfttailrdr46 on August 13, 2013, 09:36:41 PM
Get them both.  Then you'll have a pair of good underlever shooters, in 12fpe and 18fpe class.  That's what I've cut down to, and am very happy.

I tried to come up with an argument against this but just can't think of one.  You have no choice but to get both :)

I came up against the same logic between my Model 54 and my TX200. They are both quite happy in my collection! (Not to mention me!  ;D )
Get them both.  Then you'll have a pair of good underlever shooters, in 12fpe and 18fpe class.  That's what I've cut down to, and am very happy.
There you have it the general consensus is if you can only have two air rifles then it is imperative  that Diana 460 and Air Arms TX 200 mkIII are the springers of choice  ;D now lets here from the other enablers ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: palonej on August 13, 2013, 10:04:35 PM
Hey!!!! What about an HW 97 or 98?????
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: Sfttailrdr46 on August 13, 2013, 10:11:42 PM
Hey!!!! What about an HW 97 or 98?????
;D ;D ;D ;D Gotcha !!!!  ::) ::) ;D
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: Minuteman on August 13, 2013, 10:57:01 PM
Hey!!!! What about an HW 97 or 98?????

Only if you are a pool shark!  ::) ;D :P
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: GunnerAl on August 14, 2013, 01:29:58 AM
Hey!!!! What about an HW 97 or 98?????

HW 97 KT - the one with the thumbhole synthetic stock.. That's another one on the list. What a real nice looking rifle that is. Maybe the 97 or 98 too should be on everyone's list...
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: barcabarca on August 14, 2013, 01:53:02 AM
I have had the Diana 460 in .22 and have a TX 200 LH in walnut in .22 .  They are two very different rifles.  TX is smoother and very well balanced but heavy.  The trigger is really nice and the rifle is very accurate.   The shape of the rifle makes it very easy to shoot off handed.  Mine shoots Crosman Premier at 16 FPE.

The Diana 460 was very powerful. It started out at almost 26 FPE and settled in at 23.5 FPE! With a high power Vortek kit.   It was not as easy to shoot off handed as the stock was a bit thinner and longer.  It was very accurate, not quite as accurate as the TX200 though.  The t-05 trigger is just not as good at the TX 200 trigger. 

As a hunting rifle, the 460 is totally amazing.   As a Field Target rifle, it would be too hard to control.  The TX 200 in FT is almost perfect.  As a hunting rifle, it is not as powerful.



Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: palonej on August 14, 2013, 04:05:03 AM
Hey!!!! What about an HW 97 or 98?????

Only if you are a pool shark!  ::) ;D :P

Funny you should mention that George!!! Just got home, 3:00 am, from a pretty big tourney!! Took third, was really tired, but had a ball and made enough to make a nice pellet order!!!
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: wallawallaron on August 14, 2013, 09:45:37 AM
Hey!!!! What about an HW 97 or 98?????

Only if you are a pool shark!  ::) ;D :P

Funny you should mention that George!!! Just got home, 3:00 am, from a pretty big tourney!! Took third, was really tired, but had a ball and made enough to make a nice pellet order!!!

Sounds like you still have your thumbs intact ;) ;)

WWR
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: palonej on August 14, 2013, 11:57:42 AM
LMBO!!! Hey Ron!!! I protect my thumbs at ALL cost!!!!! My trigger finger too!!!
How you been brother???
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: Minuteman on August 14, 2013, 01:45:31 PM
Hey!!!! What about an HW 97 or 98?????

Only if you are a pool shark!  ::) ;D :P

Funny you should mention that George!!! Just got home, 3:00 am, from a pretty big tourney!! Took third, was really tired, but had a ball and made enough to make a nice pellet order!!!

I need to learn a new trade!
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: palonej on August 14, 2013, 01:49:47 PM
I give lessons George!!! It is the ONLY way the blonde in charge doesn't kill me for buying BB gun stuff!! I am "allowed" to spend my pool winnings!!! What a sweetheart!!!
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: Booger on August 14, 2013, 09:16:14 PM
I ordered my TX in walnut, but the beech and walnut were on back order. The beech came in first so I jumped on it. Glad I did because I found a used TX200 .177 in beech and now I have a matching pair. When me and my son shoot we shoot TXs or RWSs together. He is a good shot at 10, and will be better than his teacher.

Go for the TX200s in both calibers.
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: Minuteman on August 15, 2013, 07:27:25 AM
I give lessons George!!! It is the ONLY way the blonde in charge doesn't kill me for buying BB gun stuff!! I am "allowed" to spend my pool winnings!!! What a sweetheart!!!

Ain't love grand?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: snakebite4767 on August 15, 2013, 05:19:38 PM
After all of this... I ended up buying a Weihrauch HW95 Luxus. This is worse than my wife buying shoes!

Snakebite
Title: Re: TX200 vs RWS 460
Post by: Motorhead on August 15, 2013, 05:54:28 PM
After all of this... I ended up buying a Weihrauch HW95 Luxus. This is worse than my wife buying shoes!

Snakebite

Worse for who ???