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Airguns by Make and Model => Pinty Airguns => Topic started by: billygee on February 17, 2025, 07:07:57 PM
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Now that Pinty's having air rifle selections,
trying to center on the Flashpup Topic
a lot of Spanish sites out there already, along with US purchasers personal experience
So far Fed-X delivered today, packaging product was well protected from damage.
So, before any shooting, inspection and cleaning of the barrel is my first step,
checking the suppressor baffles for any damage, allen screws for tightness
moving on,
went ahead and made a lead dust filter for it.
started to continue airing it up, but first wanted to see how it was degassed,
now according to the owners manual, degassing is only done by cocking an triggering it til empty.
At this point putting question out there, if anyone has altered or found any other means on degassing ?
my thought was to just unscrew the manometer,
but that has a spring loaded collar making it unaccessible to degas
my thought without any major mod, just remove the air tube unscrew the manometer end,
then remove the collar and just use a dowel plug like some air rifles do, then if need be use the manometer for degassing ?
Bill
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There are some similarities to my P35s so I will guess that the manometer has flats and can be reached with a really thin socket wrench likes comes with the P35. If so you could unscrew the gauge if you can find the suitable wrench. That is not what you do on the P35, it has a degassing screw on the back end of the air tube. If you locate the wrench you would want to be sure you unscrew the gauge from the big nut on the end of the air tube. If you put a screw driver through the opening for the fill probe you can prevent the nut from turning.
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There are some similarities to my P35s so I will guess that the manometer has flats and can be reached with a really thin socket wrench likes comes with the P35. If so you could unscrew the gauge if you can find the suitable wrench. That is not what you do on the P35, it has a degassing screw on the back end of the air tube. If you locate the wrench you would want to be sure you unscrew the gauge from the big nut on the end of the air tube. If you put a screw driver through the opening for the fill probe you can prevent the nut from turning.
thanks Jim
replaced a few monometers using small adjustable wrench
some having hex an some flat spots that are exposed at the top, but some below the top gauge glass ring.
the thin wall wrench would have to be very, very, thin wall, for clearance is very marginal, as this monometer does not appear to have any flat surfaces, exposed is just a silver top ring
I believe if there was a degassing screw, it would have mentioned in the degassing procedure
I'm unfamiliar with the wrench your referring to for the P35
Bill
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I think there IS a degassing socket head at the back of the air tube. Mine is out in the barn in the gun room and it’s 2 degrees outside vs. 72 here in my Lazy Boy in the house or I would go check. ;D
My bullpup seems to have a huge amount of MOA built into the rail. I’ve got all the “Down” elevation in and still hitting 4 MOA high at 50 yards. Have installed shims in the front ring but 4 MOA is as low as I can get it. I’ve ordered some Westhunter adjustable rings to address the issue. Will keep you posted. Similar issue with my P15 or “Diana Skyhawk” as it was branded. Had just enough elevation on a UTG Compact 4x16 to zero it, but it’s writhing three clicks of being maxed out. Hate to run a scope that tight to its limits of adjustment.
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I think there IS a degassing socket head at the back of the air tube. Mine is out in the barn in the gun room and it’s 2 degrees outside vs. 72 here in my Lazy Boy in the house or I would go check. ;D
My bullpup seems to have a huge amount of MOA built into the rail. I’ve got all the “Down” elevation in and still hitting 4 MOA high at 50 yards. Have installed shims in the front ring but 4 MOA is as low as I can get it. I’ve ordered some Westhunter adjustable rings to address the issue. Will keep you posted. Similar issue with my P15 or “Diana Skyhawk” as it was branded. Had just enough elevation on a UTG Compact 4x16 to zero it, but it’s writhing three clicks of being maxed out. Hate to run a scope that tight to its limits of adjustment.
Hey Kirk
Thanks for your input
Ya ! I hear you, expecting sub ZERRO temps here (Thinking Spring very strongly lately) I can feel my Lazy Boy Beckoning
I recall seeing a Spanish video that appears to be referring to an allen screw at the back of the air tube for degassing
never took Spanish so tried to understand it through CC (since I couldn't get the interpreter working)
other then pulling the air tube, I feel it's just going to be guess work
on the optic end (aside from my inquiry)
found some sites having similar issues with larger end dia. optics having these issues,
unable to tell you why, but their fix was
lowering the OD on ones front optics (been awhile so unable to send you the site or explain why this worked for them)
thanks again for your input
Bill
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Morning guys, I did just take a look at my Bullpup and there is an Allen screw on the backend of the airtube that could be a de-gass. One will have to take the cheek rest off to get to that screw.
Weather is supposed to be Sunny, high of 57 degrees, winds light and variable here today so I plan a trip to the WMA with my Bullpup for my first field trials of this gun. ;D
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No hunting for me - GRRRR!
Temperature is below 32ºF, cloudy, windy, and snow is predicted for later today. We should crawl out of the freezer Saturday - maybe.
Good luck to you, Steve. Remember, "Pictures or it never happened."
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Morning guys, I did just take a look at my Bullpup and there is an Allen screw on the backend of the airtube that could be a de-gass. One will have to take the cheek rest off to get to that screw.
Weather is supposed to be Sunny, high of 57 degrees, winds light and variable here today so I plan a trip to the WMA with my Bullpup for my first field trials of this gun. ;D
-3 and -29 wind chill here....... 57 would be tropical!
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Thanks Mike, yep looks like today is the only chance to get out for another week or so. Forecast for some light snow tomorrow evening and 15 degrees low the next night, so today it is. Hopefully something worthy of a picture will show up! ;D
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Kirk, it says you are in Missouri, but sounds more like you are in Antarctica!
So far the sun is out and temps are rising from last night's low of 27 so about 11:00 I will head out.
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Morning guys, I did just take a look at my Bullpup and there is an Allen screw on the backend of the airtube that could be a de-gass. One will have to take the cheek rest off to get to that screw.
Weather is supposed to be Sunny, high of 57 degrees, winds light and variable here today so I plan a trip to the WMA with my Bullpup for my first field trials of this gun. ;D
-3 and -29 wind chill here....... 57 would be tropical!
Hey Guys
Brrrrr! Woke up here to outside temps showing -18 below
Wth this Wisconsin Weather, might have to put a hold on this teardown,
all my airgun clamps & tools are in my unheated garage with just a few hand tools at home
So Not gonna dress up look'n like the Michelin Tire Man to work on this rifle
In the mean, time might take the stock off an ck that allen screw
probably air this thing up, ck for leaks an give it a bloody go
If anyone does a follow uo on that back allen screw, let us know
Bill
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Heads up Guys
Anyone interested I found this on my inquiry at another site
Bill
You can get at the reg by either end of the cylinder. To degass there is a small set screw at the very end of the cylinder. Just break it free & give it a few minutes to air out. You have to put a pipe or even a screwdriver shaft in the fill port hole & unscrew the whole assembly. You then need a ft long extension & socket & same length screwdriver. I remove the air tube so I can have the reg & mark it in case I want to return to factory settings. It's very easy after you do it once. Nothing on Spa guns is ever loctited so easy peasy. Screw on reg goes cw to decrease & ccw to increase.
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I'm guessing you got it back together otherwise I would ask for some photos
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I'm guessing you got it back together otherwise I would ask for some photos
Hey Jared
Wished that was the story, BUT, Sorry
this being Tax Time have to put it in the play box for a bit and do some paper work
hope to get to it another day
Bill
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That's ok, I will rewatch some of the Chile based videos on it and see if I can figure it out.
So far I am liking my QM23 bullpup a lot. So much that I almost lost my mind and put my Sumatra 2500 up for sale, but I regained my senses and had the ad removed and ordered the part I needed to fix it. Whew.
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The weather guessers got things right in North GA today, the temperature hit 58 degrees and sunny with virtually no wind, a great day to be in the woods with the new Bullpup. The rifle was a pleasure to tote through the woods, especially with the 5 oz Sig red dot on mine. After confirming a rough 30 yard zero, I set out on a mile and a half woods waik but saw nothing moving in the woods except a few birds. About an hour in I though I heard a squirrel stiring in the leaves but after a bit of stalking I looked up over a large rock to see a dozen wild turkeys scratching around. Turkey season doesn't start for another couple months in GA and .30 cal or larger is required. So I stood up and they a turned on the afterburners and skedattled.
The WMA I hunt borders one of the most visited lakes east of the Mississippi and with the crazy rain and wind we had the last few days, there were more than a few hoppy beverage cans floating about. My range finder showed cans from 25 yards out to 75 yards so it was game on. I use Strelock Pro for holdover when necessary and it seemed to be dead on today. The rifle shot great at range with the Apolo 18 gn Air Boss pellets I was feeding it. Everything I shot at was a hit except for one can that was 74 yards out and I miscalculated the holdover on the first shot. The second sent the can to Davy Jones Locker. My Pinty Bullpup is a shooter!!
I had no problems with the rifle, it feels like I might have won the Airgun Lottery with this one, at least so far.(knock on wood) Trigger feels really good, does not affect good accuracy. Everything worked smoothly and properly as it should.
Crazy weather is coming back tonight with rain/snow mix and temps in the teens for a couple days. Hopefully the great thaw will come soon and others will be able to get out and enjoy the Bullpup.
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Funny Jared, I had a similar thought about my Airforce Escape UL, but just changed the barrel back to the .25 cal instead and will keep it!
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Finally caved and just ordered one!
Wished I had pulled the trigger before when Black20 would have saved me 20%($225.00). But, $239 shipped isn't bad.
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beats mine! I paid $254 after shipping and tax
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beats mine! I paid $254 after shipping and tax
You had to pay shipping?
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Try using "GTA" for the discount code... ;) Should get you $40 off.
Sometimes it pays to read the GTA ads at the top of the page.
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Just checked. No shipping charge, paid $238 plus $16.07 tax for a total of $254.07. I had used the code WINHUNT for $41.99 off the $279.99 sticker price
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Try using "GTA" for the discount code... ;) Should get you $40 off.
Sometimes it pays to read the GTA ads at the top of the page.
$40 is basically what I got off on my order using code Black20, today.
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Try using "GTA" for the discount code... ;) Should get you $40 off.
Sometimes it pays to read the GTA ads at the top of the page.
$40 is basically what I got off on my order using code Black20, today.
Me too.. that was before I learned of the GTA code.
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Received mine yesterday and finally opened it up today to look at. I’m super impressed with the gun. Decent quality, look and feel. For the price point I think it’s a home run. Gassed it up and took a couple of shots- even with GTO lead free pellets (shooting in my basement) the gun is quiet. I would def say backyard friendly.
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I ordered and received a Pinty Bullpup QM23. It arrived yesterday in excellent condition.
It's surprisingly light and compact.
So, a quick barrel cleaning, a few shots and left it overnight. This morning it had lost no air pressure so over the chrony it goes.
I loaded a full mag of JSB 15.89s and fired away. 880 fps plus or minus 3 fps. Amazing for a new gun, new reg. It stayed on the bench until this afternoon.
I dug through my scopes and found a compact 3-12 Bugbuster that would seem a good match. This is where the problem became apparent. The gun has a picatinney looking rail. The brochure says 22mm picatinny. The mounts would not tighten. Two different sets of mounts just flopped around. I even found a Pinty 4x tactical with built in picatinney mounts. A caliper revealed that the mounts are only 19mm wide.
Anyone else have this problem? I awaiting a response from the seller listed I the brochure. I hope it's an anomoly as I think I'll quite like it if it's accurate.
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From another thread I believe I read the rail is actually a Weaver (20 mm). So Weaver mounts fit on Picatinny, but Picatinny won't tighten on Weaver. A set of Weaver scope rings should solve your problem.
If anyone sees a flaw in my response, please chime in!
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When I ordered my bullpup I also ordered this Pinty scope on Amazon and it fit without any issues, but the scope is advertised as having rings that fit both Weaver and Picatinny.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019Q7H1IQ
(https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019Q7H1IQ)
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From another thread I believe I read the rail is actually a Weaver (20 mm). So Weaver mounts fit on Picatinny, but Picatinny won't tighten on Weaver. A set of Weaver scope rings should solve your problem.
If anyone sees a flaw in my response, please chime in!
As posted by member smythsg:
"Well, I have now confirmed that the rail on my rifle is a Weaver compatible rail, but not Picatinny. Weaver brand name rings will work, but Picatinny rings will not. I have many sets of Picatinny rings but did not have any Weaver rings until today"
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Hi Billy, yes I experienced the same thing you did with rings. 20 mm rings work fine with the Bullpup, and my rail measured 19.6 mm as well.
I ordered these rings: (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D8J9YW9J?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1);
and this riser for my red dots: (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C5YW7YR?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title)
Both worked great for the Bullpup.
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Hmmm, looks like the links got stripped from the post...just PM me if you have any questions, happy to assist.
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Here you go Steve. Weird issues with posting links on Amazon sometimes. Try using clean link when copying. I also had to hit enter after the last character in the link before the /url to make them show up. Weird thing is they show up in "preview" just fine
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D8J9YW9J
(https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D8J9YW9J)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C5YW7YR
(https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C5YW7YR)
I wanted to do a little shooting today but first I had to cut a little firewood for my wood stove since it's been in the low 20s here at night and it is supposed to rain the next couple of days. Luckily I have plenty of big dead oaks to choose from since I had a logging crew cut down a half dozen that were a danger to my house
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Because of the different rail width, it seems that any universal mount would not be centered on the bore in one rail, be it picatinney or Weaver.
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Because of the different rail width, it seems that any universal mount would not be centered on the bore in one rail, be it picatinney or Weaver.
As long as the scope rail is mounted on the centerline of the rifle the mounted scope should be on the same line, no matter what the width of the rail is, from an 11MM dovetail to a 22mm and larger
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Jared, thanks with the assistance with the links. It is strange that the preview did show the links fine before I did the post... :o
I was able to successfully zero both my scope and my red dot so I assume the rail is centered to the centerline of the rifle.
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Because of the different rail width, it seems that any universal mount would not be centered on the bore in one rail, be it picatinney or Weaver.
The difference in "width" between a picatinny and a weaver rail is the "front to back" width of the spaces and rails, not the "side to side" width.
(https://www.optics-trade.eu/media/extendware/ewimageopt/media/template/99/6/picatinny_weaver.jpg)
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Because of the different rail width, it seems that any universal mount would not be centered on the bore in one rail, be it picatinney or Weaver.
The difference in "width" between a picatinny and a weaver rail is the "front to back" width of the spaces and rails, not the "side to side" width.
(https://www.optics-trade.eu/media/extendware/ewimageopt/media/template/99/6/picatinny_weaver.jpg)
If that's the case then anything with a single positioning lug/nub should work on both. Wouldn't you think?
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Because of the different rail width, it seems that any universal mount would not be centered on the bore in one rail, be it picatinney or Weaver.
The difference in "width" between a picatinny and a weaver rail is the "front to back" width of the spaces and rails, not the "side to side" width.
(https://www.optics-trade.eu/media/extendware/ewimageopt/media/template/99/6/picatinny_weaver.jpg)
If that's the case then anything with a single positioning lug/nub should work on both. Wouldn't you think?
As long as the bolt transversing the rail is no more than 3.8mm in diameter it should.
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Because of the different rail width, it seems that any universal mount would not be centered on the bore in one rail, be it picatinney or Weaver.
The difference in "width" between a picatinny and a weaver rail is the "front to back" width of the spaces and rails, not the "side to side" width.
I didn't knew the difference. Great info!
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The rail on my gun is 19.87mm. Any 21mm mount will be slightly offset by almost one mm
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I just received an email stating that my gun was indeed the result of a manufacturing error, that SOME guns have incorrect rails. They offered that correct rails could be available in 30days OR a thirty dollar credit. I asked for a correct gun.
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Just received this
Hi,
We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience caused.
Upon checking with our technician, the factory made a mistake during production, resulting in some products having rail sizes that are not 22mm. We have requested the factory to custom-make a new batch rail with the correct rail sizes, which is expected to be completed in one month. Can you wait for the part?
Alternatively, if you can find a use for the item, we would like to issue you a refund of $30 as compensation.
Please let us know your thoughts.
On Saturday, February 22, 2025 at 1:47 PM, Rohmpm@succeed.net wrote:
Further stufy reveals that the gun does not have a picatinney rail as
advertised. It has a Weaver 19mm rail. Picatinney scopemou ts will not
work. Your advertising and brochures should be changed immediately to
reflect this.
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Just received this
Hi,
We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience caused.
Upon checking with our technician, the factory made a mistake during production, resulting in some products having rail sizes that are not 22mm. We have requested the factory to custom-make a new batch rail with the correct rail sizes, which is expected to be completed in one month. Can you wait for the part?
Alternatively, if you can find a use for the item, we would like to issue you a refund of $30 as compensation.
Please let us know your thoughts.
On Saturday, February 22, 2025 at 1:47 PM, Rohmpm@succeed.net wrote:
Further stufy reveals that the gun does not have a picatinney rail as
advertised. It has a Weaver 19mm rail. Picatinney scopemou ts will not
work. Your advertising and brochures should be changed immediately to
reflect this.
Thanks Billy
Did submit an inquiry as to the rail difference, have not yet heard back
Am I to understand you have a choice on 30$ or
wait for the correct rail to arrive, then they will send you one ?
or Both ?
Bill
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This is great news, I reached out to Pinty about this the day after I received my Bullpup but there was no resolution at that time. I will contact them again to make sure I too get the proper rail if it is available.
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So has anyone gotten the correct rail on the Bullpup?
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I placed my order on Thursday, and have yet to receive any other emails, besides the initial sales confirmation.
I wonder if this whole rail issue is the reason for the delay.
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So has anyone gotten the correct rail on the Bullpup?
I have not tried any other scope on my bullpup, but the Pinty scope I ordered on eBay, the same day I ordered the rifle, fits on my rail just fine.
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With Weaver rings I had no issue mounting one of my Vector Optics scopes on my Bullpup. Picatinny rings would not work with the rail.
It seems manufacturers take great liberty with the Picatinny standard.
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Anybody know if the bullpup (and rifle) have the huben reg like the p-force does?
Also, the p-rifle is 220 with the gta code. Shipping is free but youdo have tax on top of the 220.
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Shipping is free but youdo have tax on top of the 220.
Unless you live in New Hampshire ;)
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The Bullpup regulator does not match anything showing on the Huben Power website and is likely a Snowpeak product. Huma makes regulators for the P15 and P35 one of which will probably fit the Bullpup.
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I think I'm just going to machine the original rail off and mount an aftermarket picatinney in its place
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Shipping is free but youdo have tax on top of the 220.
Unless you live in New Hampshire ;)
Or Alabama.. I got free shipping and no tax.
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Added some goodies to the bullpup. 3-way 3D printed tank-mounted picatinny rail set and a bipod that collapses small enough to match the barrel and airtube.
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Added some goodies to the bullpup. 3-way 3D printed tank-mounted picatinny rail set and a bipod that collapses small enough to match the barrel and airtube.
Looks good!
Where did you get the tank mount?
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I 3D printed it from a file set I bought on Cults3d
https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/various/clip-on-rails-for-pcp-airguns-30-32mm-tubes-umarex-notos-etc-low-profile-picat
It is the middle mount in the photo, and while it fits tight I decided to glue it in place to be sure it wouldn't move
The bipod I ordered on Temu (!) for a total of $13 including shipping. I ordered it on the 15th and it arrived today.
https://www.temu.com/goods.html?_bg_fs=1&goods_id=601099917691667&sku_id=17593894963649&_x_msgid=211-20250225-02-B-836302409841594368-427-NWFSYgzX&_x_src=mail&_x_sessn_id=idn8dxs8zx&refer_page_name=bgt_order_detail&refer_page_id=10045_1740447710353_7ekugw05us&refer_page_sn=10045&no_cache_id=all4y
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I 3D printed it from a file set I bought on Cults3d
https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/various/clip-on-rails-for-pcp-airguns-30-32mm-tubes-umarex-notos-etc-low-profile-picat
It is the middle mount in the photo, and while it fits tight I decided to glue it in place to be sure it wouldn't move
Nice!
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I took the money......
Machined the 19mm picatinney lugs off of the rail, drilled and tapped and mounted an aluminum 21mm picatinney rail. Perfect!!
Getting late and very windy but I took a few shots resting on my boat trailer, 22 yards. In one mag it's sighted in, all pellets(JSB 15.89@870) touching. Hopefully the wind drops off tomorrow and I'll reach out to 50 plus, or a hundred if it likes it.
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Nice job, Billy!
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I took the money......
Machined the 19mm picatinney lugs off of the rail, drilled and tapped and mounted an aluminum 21mm picatinney rail. Perfect!!
Getting late and very windy but I took a few shots resting on my boat trailer, 22 yards. In one mag it's sighted in, all pellets(JSB 15.89@870) touching. Hopefully the wind drops off tomorrow and I'll reach out to 50 plus, or a hundred if it likes it.
Hey Billy, Nice Going
I pretty much did the same with the option 2 they gave me
I had some shim stock left over from my machinist days, cut a few for my mounts, clearance issue solved
installed a Discoveryopt scope, aired it up launched a few 14.3 Premier out to bot 18yds, WOW! impressed with the out come
intention was a teardown, but as better to be expected may just leave well enough alone till Spring
most likely push a few out to 50yds at a later time
Do anything at 50yrds an beyond ?
having a different challenge coming into play, Ya, next order will be their 10 shot Long Gun
Bill
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My bullpup was supposed to arrive Friday, but tracking says it's only about 30 miles away, and will be delivered tomorrow!
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My bullpup was supposed to arrive Friday, but tracking says it's only about 30 miles away, and will be delivered tomorrow!
Patience Dinh
Hopefully the rail issue had been corrected on yours,
If your outcome is as compared to mine,
I feel it will be worth the wait
Bill
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Do you guys really think that Pinty would be able to get new rails made that quick? And shipped from China? I kinda think that nothing is actually getting done about it.
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I don't have one of these guns but if I did I would probably take the $30 and buy a set of weaver rings... case closed.
I think first I would decide on the scope that is going to live on the gun and buy the rings accordingly.
I mean, $30 ought to buy a pretty good set of rings.
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I don't have one of these guns but if I did I would probably take the $30 and buy a set of weaver rings... case closed.
I think first I would decide on the scope that is going to live on the gun and buy the rings accordingly.
I mean, $30 ought to buy a pretty good set of rings.
Exactly, Bill!........as long as the gun shoots well.
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I don't have one of these guns but if I did I would probably take the $30 and buy a set of weaver rings... case closed.
I think first I would decide on the scope that is going to live on the gun and buy the rings accordingly.
I mean, $30 ought to buy a pretty good set of rings.
Bill,
Not to disagree as I applied mine toward another PCP
where a piece of shim stock corrects the issue,
a lot less expensive for whatever your preference
Bill
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I don't have one of these guns but if I did I would probably take the $30 and buy a set of weaver rings... case closed.
I think first I would decide on the scope that is going to live on the gun and buy the rings accordingly.
I mean, $30 ought to buy a pretty good set of rings.
Bill,
Not to disagree as I applied mine toward another PCP
where a piece of shim stock corrects the issue,
a lot less expensive for whatever your preference
Bill
That works too as long as the scope sits center... stuff like that just bugs me.
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I don't have one of these guns but if I did I would probably take the $30 and buy a set of weaver rings... case closed.
I think first I would decide on the scope that is going to live on the gun and buy the rings accordingly.
I mean, $30 ought to buy a pretty good set of rings.
Bill,
Not to disagree as I applied mine toward another PCP
where a piece of shim stock corrects the issue,
a lot less expensive for whatever your preference
Bill
That works too as long as the scope sits center... stuff like that just bugs me.
totally understandable as it does me
What ever works to put ones self in their comfort zone
Bill
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My bullpup was supposed to arrive Friday, but tracking says it's only about 30 miles away, and will be delivered tomorrow!
Got the update this morning, and UPS changed it back to the original date of Friday. This actually works out better since it's supposed to be rainy all day today and I'll be getting home later than usual due to a doctor's appointment.
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I don't have one of these guns but if I did I would probably take the $30 and buy a set of weaver rings... case closed.
I think first I would decide on the scope that is going to live on the gun and buy the rings accordingly.
I mean, $30 ought to buy a pretty good set of rings.
Weaver rings would not help the issue, unless they just happen to close further. Pic and weaver rails are the same width. They are different in the width between the rails front to back. The issue is that some rings do not close to less than 20mm. Picatinny and Weaver rails are actually 21.2mm wide. If you look at the majority of rings they are advertised as fitting 1mm or 20mm rails.
Best bet is to take the $$ as I can pretty much guarantee you that NO ONE will ever get a new rail from Pinty. They are a reseller and are not looking to provide parts at all.
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I don't have one of these guns but if I did I would probably take the $30 and buy a set of weaver rings... case closed.
I think first I would decide on the scope that is going to live on the gun and buy the rings accordingly.
I mean, $30 ought to buy a pretty good set of rings.
Weaver rings would not help the issue, unless they just happen to close further. Pic and weaver rails are the same width. They are different in the width between the rails front to back. The issue is that some rings do not close to less than 20mm. Picatinny and Weaver rails are actually 21.2mm wide. If you look at the majority of rings they are advertised as fitting 1mm or 20mm rails.
Best bet is to take the $$ as I can pretty much guarantee you that NO ONE will ever get a new rail from Pinty. They are a reseller and are not looking to provide parts at all.
I guess that remains to be seen. Maybe, I'm not sure if anyone has taken that option yet.
But I am curious.. Why would there be Weaver rings if they don't fit Weaver rails correctly?
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The way I understand it is that the difference is the width, depth and number of the slots. The overall width of the rails are the same.
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For the price, I'm going to be the glass half full kinda guy. I'll make it work one way or the other, and get an additional $30 off the price of the gun.
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For the price, I'm going to be the glass half full kinda guy. I'll make it work one way or the other, and get an additional $30 off the price of the gun.
I believe the slots can be modified to work.
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For the price, I'm going to be the glass half full kinda guy. I'll make it work one way or the other, and get an additional $30 off the price of the gun.
I believe the slots can be modified to work.
I'll find out tomorrow, when I'll be able to get an upclose look at it.
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I don't have one of these guns but if I did I would probably take the $30 and buy a set of weaver rings... case closed.
I think first I would decide on the scope that is going to live on the gun and buy the rings accordingly.
I mean, $30 ought to buy a pretty good set of rings.
Weaver rings would not help the issue, unless they just happen to close further. Pic and weaver rails are the same width. They are different in the width between the rails front to back. The issue is that some rings do not close to less than 20mm. Picatinny and Weaver rails are actually 21.2mm wide. If you look at the majority of rings they are advertised as fitting 1mm or 20mm rails.
Best bet is to take the $$ as I can pretty much guarantee you that NO ONE will ever get a new rail from Pinty. They are a reseller and are not looking to provide parts at all.
I guess that remains to be seen. Maybe, I'm not sure if anyone has taken that option yet.
But I am curious.. Why would there be Weaver rings if they don't fit Weaver rails correctly?
Theses rails are neither weaver nor picatinny. If you tried a set of true picatinny mounts on a true weaver rail you would see that the mount will not even sit all the way down on the rail, let alone clamp. It's my guess that who were had the first problem of the mount not clamping was the one to suggest to Pinty that the rails were weaver and not picatinny. It wasn't the other way around.
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For the price, I'm going to be the glass half full kinda guy. I'll make it work one way or the other, and get an additional $30 off the price of the gun.
I believe the slots can be modified to work.
I'll find out tomorrow, when I'll be able to get an upclose look at it.
Yep, I done a bit of research and it can be done relatively easy. Probably as easy as a file.
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For the price, I'm going to be the glass half full kinda guy. I'll make it work one way or the other, and get an additional $30 off the price of the gun.
I believe the slots can be modified to work.
I'll find out tomorrow, when I'll be able to get an upclose look at it.
Yep, I done a bit of research and it can be done relatively easy. Probably as easy as a file.
Maybe it's me not understanding, but when I read the original issue, it was that the rails were not 22mm (actually 21.2) but they were just 19mm and the rings would not tighten far enough to secure them. If this is the issue then no amount of filing grinding or sanding will make any bit of difference. As is any set of weaver or pic rings will go on the rail without any modifications at all. If you have a set that the clamping does not go smaller than 20mm then they will not tighten. If they do clamp smaller than 19mm then they will work.
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For the price, I'm going to be the glass half full kinda guy. I'll make it work one way or the other, and get an additional $30 off the price of the gun.
I believe the slots can be modified to work.
I'll find out tomorrow, when I'll be able to get an upclose look at it.
Yep, I done a bit of research and it can be done relatively easy. Probably as easy as a file.
Maybe it's me not understanding, but when I read the original issue, it was that the rails were not 22mm (actually 21.2) but they were just 19mm and the rings would not tighten far enough to secure them. If this is the issue then no amount of filing grinding or sanding will make any bit of difference. As is any set of weaver or pic rings will go on the rail without any modifications at all. If you have a set that the clamping does not go smaller than 20mm then they will not tighten. If they do clamp smaller than 19mm then they will work.
Yeah.. everything I read in my search pointed to the slots being the issue. I didn't see any reference to the overall rail width being different. I could be wrong.. it has happened once or twice in my life.. :o
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Either I got lucky or it was the fact that I used a Pinty scope/rings that let me get a scope on it with no issues at all. Odd
I did have a bit of good news. I found a couple of .stl files for single shot trays that work with just a couple of minutes of sanding and rod filing. One type is top load and the other is side load. The side load seems to be the one I will use since it seems easier. Just tilt the rifle to the left and drop a pellet in the V slot
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Glad to hear your Bullpup turned out
Guessing these rail issues have become a (rap shoot, with various options for correcting them
Part of a Chinese DIY FIX, if not a DIY , remove the rail bring it into a arms store they should be able to find a ring fix
I also came across couple single shot blocks that can be modified to work
So any faults or disappointments in your investment
Bill
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So far it has been good out of the box. I've just adding things on to it like the picatinny tank clamp, bipod and single shot tray. I did turn in the hammer spring screw a 1/2 turn but I have not chrony'd it with that adjustment yet as I have been working on stuff for my Sumatra.
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Sounds like we are on the same path, with the bipod set up
Gonna leave well enough alone till this weather breaks for outdoor fun
Bill
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Yeah.. everything I read in my search pointed to the slots being the issue. I didn't see any reference to the overall rail width being different. I could be wrong.. it has happened once or twice in my life.. :o
Go back to page 2 in this very thread.......
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=217752.msg156584017#msg156584017
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Yeah.. everything I read in my search pointed to the slots being the issue. I didn't see any reference to the overall rail width being different. I could be wrong.. it has happened once or twice in my life.. :o
Go back to page 2 in this very thread.......
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=217752.msg156584017#msg156584017
I get that but according to this post the width is the same.
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=217752.msg156584275#msg156584275
I wonder, has anyone contacted Pinty to see if they had any rings that fit these rails and have they even tried what they have?
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Yeah.. everything I read in my search pointed to the slots being the issue. I didn't see any reference to the overall rail width being different. I could be wrong.. it has happened once or twice in my life.. :o
Go back to page 2 in this very thread.......
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=217752.msg156584017#msg156584017
I get that but according to this post the width is the same.
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=217752.msg156584275#msg156584275
I wonder, has anyone contacted Pinty to see if they had any rings that fit these rails and have they even tried what they have?
EXACTLY - this is why I am saying the rails in these guns is NOT STANDARD weaver nor picatinny as far as width (side to side) is concerned. If you have weaver or picatinny rings that do not close smaller then 20mm they will not get tight. If you have weaver or picatinny that do close smaller then 20mm they will get tight, but will likely be just a tad off center. Not sure how I can make my point any clearer......
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I was the first one to report the rail issue and when I contacted Pinty, I specifically asked them to recommend a set of rings that would fit the rifle. No recommendation was made by Pinty. I have also sent them the Pics they asked for documenting that the rail was 19.6mm wide, not the 22mm that was stated in the manual that came with the rifle. None of my several pair of Picatinny rings could clamp down on the rifle's rail, but a pair of Weaver brand name rings clamped fine. I suspect that any rings that claim to be 20mm will work fine, call them Picatinny or Weaver.
The slots on the Pinty rail will not allow my Sig Romeo 5 red dot to attach, which does attach fine to Picatinny rails I have had on other guns. I ordered a Picatinny riser to mount that optic, but still had to do some filing of the riser slots to allow the Sig to mount. There does seem to be a military definition of what a Picatinny rail should be, but manufacturers seem to be playing pretty loose with that definition, at least for the civilian market.
The rail has generally become a non issue for me now that I know what to do with it. Both my scope and my red dot have now been used for some longer distance plinking and have been zeroed fine. Pinty Support has not responded to me since I sent them the pictures so like others, I suspect nothing will be done for those that might have already received the Bullpup with a 19mm rail. Such is what happens sometimes with early adopters.
I still believe the Pinty Bullpup is a very nice rifle for the money paid and do not at all regret the purchase.
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The slots on the Pinty rail will not allow my Sig Romeo 5 red dot to attach, which does attach fine to Picatinny rails I have had on other guns. I ordered a Picatinny riser to mount that optic, but still had to do some filing of the riser slots to allow the Sig to mount. There does seem to be a military definition of what a Picatinny rail should be, but manufacturers seem to be playing pretty loose with that definition, at least for the civilian market.
The rail has generally become a non issue for me now that I know what to do with it. Both my scope and my red dot have now been used for some longer distance plinking and have been zeroed fine. Pinty Support has not responded to me since I sent them the pictures so like others, I suspect nothing will be done for those that might have already received the Bullpup with a 19mm rail. Such is what happens sometimes with early adopters.
I still believe the Pinty Bullpup is a very nice rifle for the money paid and do not at all regret the purchase.
Thanks on your heads up Steve
Chinese Clearances has always been Issues, especially on springers that I have repaired
correcting some of clearances that worked for me was shim stock,
basically I used on crankshaft bearings for meeting specs, some auto stores still carry it
they come 0.002" - 0.010" strips which is all I ever used
(Just another option) Not saying this fix will work on all these undersized rails, but it did for me
in a pinch guess one could use scotch, or electrical tape
Hope this might help some, like you quoted:
I still believe the Pinty Bullpup is a very nice rifle for the money paid and do not at all regret the purchase
Bill
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Have the rail issue on mine, going to try and contact customer service and go for the credit option if offered. I will juts take a bit of material off to get the red dot I got for it to fit.
I did notice something when filling it up with air today, I was in a low light area of my basement and was using my flashlight to check the fill gauge. Lo and behold, glow in the dark gauge! Not sure how long it will glow for, but put my flashlight on it for a bit to see how long it will. Don’t think I saw anyone report this yet- or noted in the features.
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Have the rail issue on mine, going to try and contact customer service and go for the credit option if offered. I will juts take a bit of material off to get the red dot I got for it to fit.
I did notice something when filling it up with air today, I was in a low light area of my basement and was using my flashlight to check the fill gauge. Lo and behold, glow in the dark gauge! Not sure how long it will glow for, but put my flashlight on it for a bit to see how long it will. Don’t think I saw anyone report this yet- or noted in the features.
Writing to Pinty about an issue will get you this response now:
Thank you for your reply and we are more than happy to help you.
If you believe the item is not as described, please send us some photos containing the following:
some pictures of measuring the product with a ruler
the corresponding description on our listing
the SKU number on the package (It will look like this: HPM-128D-US）
the tracking number on the package
We appreciate your cooperation and look forward to your reply.
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Yep... by the way, there was not a SKU number that matched the format they suggested on any of my manual pages, packaging, or rifle.
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Now that you mention it, I don't recall seeing much writing/stamping on my p-rifle either.
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Took the Pinty Bullpup on out to 50 yards this morning. I prefer reactive targets to paper, so set up three one inch balls on top of three golf tees and three shots later all three balls were laying on the ground with holes in them. No question my rifle is squirrel head and starling accurate out to 50 yards with the H&N Baracuda 21.14 gn pellets... ;D
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Hole in one times three, Steve!
How fast are those cudas zingin? And how many shots you getting within say 20 fps?
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The Cudas are shooting between 810 and 815 fps for about 31 ft lbs. I haven't actually done an official count of shots, but it seems like I have gone through 5 or six mags before dropping off the reg at about 150 bar. The regulator has been suprisingly good, with the vast majority of shots within 10 fps spread.
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Beautiful day today with no wind and sunshine about 63 degrees. Hauled out the Pinty Bullpup for another round of shooting off the golf tees but this time it was paintballs at 35 yards. Just like the last time at 50 yards with one inch balls, three tees set up, three shots, splash three paintballs. I'm loving my Bullpup!!!
On another note, I 3d printed a Picatinny Bidpod rail that was originally intended for a SPA P15 but fits the Pinty Bullpup perfectly: ( https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5964116 ) Free download...
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On to tees at 75 yds?
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My bullpup was supposed to arrive Friday, but tracking says it's only about 30 miles away, and will be delivered tomorrow!
My gun was supposed to be delivered last Friday(2/28), but UPS lost it. Pinty sent out another one 3/5. Delivery says 3/12. Fingers crossed!
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HeHe...naw, 75 yards is the domain of my Escape UL ;D
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A gentleman over on another forum is making custom magazines for the Snowpeak P35 and has suggested that he would make magazines for the Pinty Bullpup if the intrest is there. Let me know if you would be interested in afterrmarket magazines for the Pinty Pup and hopefully he will take on the task!
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This post from the gentleman considering making magazines for the Pinty Bullpup:
Great! If I can get 20 mags pre-sold, I will move forward with production. It will be $26 for the first mag and $23 for the rest in the same order with US shipping included. ETA would be 6 weeks or less.
He has pre-order commitments for 10 mags already so we are getting closer. If interested please let me know so I can update his count.
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I just saw this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYxhvguRGUQ
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Thanks Jared, looks pretty well just like my unboxing... ;)
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LOL... not many different ways to unbox a gun. :o
Step 1: Cut tape
Step 2: Open box
Step 3: Remove gun
Step 4: Inspect gun
Step 5: Spend the next 5 hours editing video.
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Think you got it nailed Bill! :o
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Think you got it nailed Bill! :o
Yep... had a little experience.
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Oh, step 5 is what I keep messing up on! 😂
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how are yall's bullpup's shooting ?
mine is throwing lite weight stuff up to 20gr like a scattergun !!
but calms down when using jsb redesign 25.39 and jumbo beast 33.95. but the redesign is better.
seems the barrel spec might not like the hot lite weight stuff, i will see.
chrony 14.3 cpd's @ 925fps
will check fps with the 33.95 soon, im out of the redesign's for now....... ::)
so far no leaks, trigger needs help, optic rail is the same as earlier guns.
i had a set of UTG premiums that worked very well, no need to replace rail.
i'm going to try and turn the power down some this weekend if i get a chance
after doing field prep for planting.
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After 3 long weeks, I finally got my bullpup. Looks just as nice, in person!
First order of business was to check on the scope rail. First scope mount I grabbed from the drawer fits just fine. I decided to borrow the UTG Bugout from the P-rod. The UTG also fits fine on the scope rail.
With the temporary scope mounted, I moved on to barrel cleaning. Used 50lb monofilament to pull clp soaked patches through. About 6 patches and it appears to be acceptably clean.
Didn't fully fill up the gun. Just to 225 bars for today. Loaded up mag with Hades and set up a large piece of cardboard out to about 35ft. First shot hit about 18" low. About 12" below the bullseye was all that the Bugout could manage. I'll have to look into adjustable height scope rings to compensate for the scope sitting so high above the barrel. However, once I just the correct mildot, the gun proves very accurate. Despite the heavy trigger. Also, hard hitting. Will need to checkout the fps.
Need to get the scope and rings figured out, then onto pellet testing. Overall, I am very pleased with the gun.
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John, like you, my Pup likes the heavier pellets the best, but in my case, the Apolo 18 gn pellets shoot very well and the 21 gn Baracuda pellets shoot lights out. My trigger is pretty good now that I corrected the safety drag. You might want to check to see if the safety is dragging on the safety nub even when it is fully pushed off safe. I had to file that little nub down a bit and all is good with trigger now. Mine was shootig at about the same speed you mention with 14.3 cpds and they were not accurate. There is a hammer spring adjuster you can check to see where it is set. Mine was about even with the rear and I have left it there.
Dinh, you might want to check your safety as well. Once that small safety issue was corrected, mine has been trouble free and a pleasure to shoot so far.
John, I saw your PM about the custom mag the gentleman on the other forum is considering making. He needs a minimum committment of 15 total mags from various users to fund the development (he will purchase a rifle to test with). With yours added we are up to 11 mags ( that I know of) so not quite there yet. Will let you know if we reach the 15 threshold and he is ready to move forward with the project.
Nice to see more of the Pups out there, look forward to your updates and adventures.
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Dinh, you might want to check your safety as well. Once that small safety issue was corrected, mine has been trouble free and a pleasure to shoot so far.
Will do!
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Dinh, you might want to check your safety as well. Once that small safety issue was corrected, mine has been trouble free and a pleasure to shoot so far.
Will do!
My safety button will seat past the trigger if I make sure to fully push it through. So, no need for any grinding.
I went through my drawer of scope mounts, and found 3 sets that fits onto the P-pup's weaver rail. Unfortunately, they're not tall enough enough. I scoured thru Amazon and found that Monstrum has a few rings that they indicate will both weaver and picatinny. They also indicate when a mount is for picatinny only. I have a 30mm high set on the way.
https://a.co/d/cuCMSvP
The P-pup drew first blood today on a nutter. 40yd shot with the gun braced up against a deck beam.
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Dinh, you might want to check your safety as well. Once that small safety issue was corrected, mine has been trouble free and a pleasure to shoot so far.
Will do!
My safety button will seat past the trigger if I make sure to fully push it through. So, no need for any grinding.
I went through my drawer of scope mounts, and found 3 sets that fits onto the P-pup's weaver rail. Unfortunately, they're not tall enough enough. I scoured thru Amazon and found that Monstrum has a few rings that they indicate will both weaver and picatinny. They also indicate when a mount is for picatinny only. I have a 30mm high set on the way.
https://a.co/d/cuCMSvP
The P-pup drew first blood today on a nutter. 40yd shot with the gun braced up against a deck beam.
ANY weaver mount or ANY picatinny mount will fit this gun AS LONG AS it tightens to 19mm. Some only go to down to 20mm and apparently this rail is just a tad smaller at 19 and change.
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Dinh, you might want to check your safety as well. Once that small safety issue was corrected, mine has been trouble free and a pleasure to shoot so far.
Will do!
My safety button will seat past the trigger if I make sure to fully push it through. So, no need for any grinding.
I went through my drawer of scope mounts, and found 3 sets that fits onto the P-pup's weaver rail. Unfortunately, they're not tall enough enough. I scoured thru Amazon and found that Monstrum has a few rings that they indicate will both weaver and picatinny. They also indicate when a mount is for picatinny only. I have a 30mm high set on the way.
https://a.co/d/cuCMSvP
The P-pup drew first blood today on a nutter. 40yd shot with the gun braced up against a deck beam.
ANY weaver mount or ANY picatinny mount will fit this gun AS LONG AS it tightens to 19mm. Some only go to down to 20mm and apparently this rail is just a tad smaller at 19 and change.
Regardless, the seller, Monstrum, actually will indicate whether or not their mounts will work with a weaver rail or not, which takes the guess work out of it. Just trying to help other members life a little easier, not argue about actual specs.
Here are screen shots of descriptions of 2 their scope mount models.
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Just an FYI, these are the rings I use on my Pinty Bullpup... my scope is 30mm.
CVLIFE Scope Rings Mount - Compatible with Weaver and Picatinny Rails - See Through Rifle Scope Mount for 20mm Rails - 2 Pieces (Amazon)
Unfortunately Rich, my Sig Romeo 5 Red Dot Picatinny mounts will not fit the Pinty Bullpup rail, but does fit on other rifles I have owned. This has nothing to do with the width of the rail, but has to do with the width and depth of the slots.
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John, it looks like the gentleman on the other forum is going to go ahead with the Pinty Bullpup magazines. I will let you know when he is far enough along to consider payment and how that can be arrainged.
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John, it looks like the gentleman on the other forum is going to go ahead with the Pinty Bullpup magazines. I will let you know when he is far enough along to consider payment and how that can be arrainged.
Does this guy have or intend to have a website or some contact info?
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Hi Bill, he has been selling .177/.22 custom mags for the P35 for some time so he probably does, but I will have to get with him for that information.
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Dinh, you might want to check your safety as well. Once that small safety issue was corrected, mine has been trouble free and a pleasure to shoot so far.
Will do!
My safety button will seat past the trigger if I make sure to fully push it through. So, no need for any grinding.
I went through my drawer of scope mounts, and found 3 sets that fits onto the P-pup's weaver rail. Unfortunately, they're not tall enough enough. I scoured thru Amazon and found that Monstrum has a few rings that they indicate will both weaver and picatinny. They also indicate when a mount is for picatinny only. I have a 30mm high set on the way.
https://a.co/d/cuCMSvP
The P-pup drew first blood today on a nutter. 40yd shot with the gun braced up against a deck beam.
ANY weaver mount or ANY picatinny mount will fit this gun AS LONG AS it tightens to 19mm. Some only go to down to 20mm and apparently this rail is just a tad smaller at 19 and change.
Regardless, the seller, Monstrum, actually will indicate whether or not their mounts will work with a weaver rail or not, which takes the guess work out of it. Just trying to help other members life a little easier, not argue about actual specs.
Here are screen shots of descriptions of 2 their scope mount models.
I'm going to give up after this because it's apparent what I am saying it not getting thru. PIC and WEAVER rails are, by spec supposed to be 21.2mm wide (give or take .2mm)
TRUE weaver or pic rings are only required to tighten down to fit on this spec. A lot of the higher cost ones only do this so that there is little chance of the rings being off-centered. If you by chance get a set of rings that tightens down to 19mm (the actually approx width of the pinty rail) then you will be fine, your rings will just be slightly off center, but they will tighten. So what I am saying it that it doesn't matter whether or not you order pic or weaver rings, what matters is that the rings you happen to get, tighten past the width of the rail.
Edit to add - I'm not arguing about anything, just pointing out facts.
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John, it looks like the gentleman on the other forum is going to go ahead with the Pinty Bullpup magazines. I will let you know when he is far enough along to consider payment and how that can be arrainged.
thanks Steve, just holler when ready..... ;D
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I'm going to give up after this because it's apparent what I am saying it not getting thru. PIC and WEAVER rails are, by spec supposed to be 21.2mm wide (give or take .2mm)
TRUE weaver or pic rings are only required to tighten down to fit on this spec. A lot of the higher cost ones only do this so that there is little chance of the rings being off-centered. If you by chance get a set of rings that tightens down to 19mm (the actually approx width of the pinty rail) then you will be fine, your rings will just be slightly off center, but they will tighten. So what I am saying it that it doesn't matter whether or not you order pic or weaver rings, what matters is that the rings you happen to get, tighten past the width of the rail.
Edit to add - I'm not arguing about anything, just pointing out facts.
Perhaps, the Monstrum vendors are actually shooters and already know these facts, and are including these fitting info to keep it simple for the buyers. So perhaps when they mention compatibility with both pic and weaver, they are in actually saying that the mounts will clamp down to 19mm.
Honestly, I don't truly care for actual specs or anything, I just want a scope mount that will work with these P-pups rail. Close enough is good for me. Im just a plinker and pester, and I shoot my airguns under 50yd, so 1mm off center is a non-issue for me. As long as the scope is on tight to the gun, I'm good with that.
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I'm going to give up after this because it's apparent what I am saying it not getting thru. PIC and WEAVER rails are, by spec supposed to be 21.2mm wide (give or take .2mm)
TRUE weaver or pic rings are only required to tighten down to fit on this spec.
Weaver rails mounts do not have "specs" per se. Generally they have recoil groove widths between rails of .180". That's it, that is as close to a "spec" the Weaver has, straight from William Weaver in 1930. There is no specified base width, nor height from base to top. Just a groove width. It is not a military invention, so there is no strict spec to follow with regard to Weaver rails. Some are 19mm in width. Some are 20mm or 21mm in width. The Russians traditionally used 19mm as their Weaver rail width. William Weaver himself came up with it to sell his own scopes and compete with Leupold..
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I think it's a moot deal at this point... the problem has been defined and more than one solution has been proposed and proven.
I find it difficult to quibble about 1 - 2 mm side to side variance when we are all over the place with center of scope to center of bore in height with our scope mounting. :-\
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I'm going to give up after this because it's apparent what I am saying it not getting thru. PIC and WEAVER rails are, by spec supposed to be 21.2mm wide (give or take .2mm)
TRUE weaver or pic rings are only required to tighten down to fit on this spec.
Weaver rails mounts do not have "specs" per se. Generally they have recoil groove widths between rails of .180". That's it, that is as close to a "spec" the Weaver has, straight from William Weaver in 1930. There is no specified base width, nor height from base to top. Just a groove width. It is not a military invention, so there is no strict spec to follow with regard to Weaver rails. Some are 19mm in width. Some are 20mm or 21mm in width. The Russians traditionally used 19mm as their Weaver rail width. William Weaver himself came up with it to sell his own scopes and compete with Leupold..
Weaver actually developed their rails in 1975 and the width was 7/8". The Pic rail was then adapted (for the military) from the weaver rail.
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Weaver actually developed their rails in 1975 and the width was 7/8". The Pic rail was then adapted (for the military) from the weaver rail.
No.
Bonus fact: Bill Weaver died in 1975
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Weaver actually developed their rails in 1975 and the width was 7/8". The Pic rail was then adapted (for the military) from the weaver rail.
No.
Bonus fact: Bill Weaver died in 1975
Guessing the "No" you are referring to is the year. I was referencing the "one piece" rail. And I know it was 7/8" and in the 90's it was "refined" for military use and named the Picatinny.
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Weaver 3-30 scope mount, 1930:
(https://dzq8as2o6rtz2.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/Two-Piece-Weaver-mount.jpg)
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Weaver 3-30 scope mount, 1930:
(https://dzq8as2o6rtz2.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/Two-Piece-Weaver-mount.jpg)
Surely, you're not saying those slotted rail mounts are from one of the Weaver 330 scopes, right? Made from 1930-1947?
I'd love to see the documentation you have from Weaver........
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Someone thinks slotted rails are "recent". Sigh. Let's start going back in time....I have far earlier but this one shows it very well: the Weaver V mount, version 9, in their 1967 catalog:
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Here's the 1958 version, again with the same mounts:
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I like this one because the wood grain looks nice. 1969. Still with the same model V split Weaver rail. You get the point? He started selling the thing in 1930. He invented it prior to even that. He sold tens of thousands of the model 3-30 scope and these mounts. 36,000 of them were used as sniper scope sets by the US military in WW2. By 1975 (November 8th) he was dead at age 75.
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I like this one because the wood grain looks nice. 1969. Still with the same model V split Weaver rail. You get the point? He started selling the thing in 1930. He invented it prior to even that. He sold tens of thousands of the model 3-30 scope and these mounts. 36,000 of them were used as sniper scope sets by the US military in WW2. By 1975 (November 8th) he was dead at age 75.
All of this weaver mounts history is great, maybe you missed it but I was taking about the "One Piece" Weaver rail system. I'm pretty sure that's what everyone was talking about, right? I mean how would any of those rings pictured fit on a Picatinny Rail?
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Congrats Dinh on proving that the Pinty Pup is a hunter, nice shooting at 40 yards. Which pellet did you use for that shot?
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Congrats Dinh on proving that the Pinty Pup is a hunter, nice shooting at 40 yards. Which pellet did you use for that shot?
Hades.
I haven't really had time to really play with this gun. What I do know is that it hits hard, and it shoots straight! Perfect! When I get the time, I want to find out the fps, pellet preference, and shot count. New scope and rings should be here tomorrow. Hopefully, the rings fit and I like the scope.
I am really, really liking this gun! The Notos, my favorite compact pester/plinker for the past 2 years, is a fantastic gun, but it just doesn't have the horse power I need pass 20yd. It's still very early, but I contemplate on getting a 2nd one if the price stays below $250.
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Congrats Dinh on proving that the Pinty Pup is a hunter, nice shooting at 40 yards. Which pellet did you use for that shot?
Hades.
I haven't really had time to really play with this gun. What I do know is that it hits hard, and it shoots straight! Perfect! When I get the time, I want to find out the fps, pellet preference, and shot count. New scope and rings should be here tomorrow. Hopefully, the rings fit and I like the scope.
I am really, really liking this gun! The Notos, my favorite compact pester/plinker for the past 2 years, is a fantastic gun, but it just doesn't have the horse power I need pass 20yd. It's still very early, but I contemplate on getting a 2nd one if the price stays below $250.
Might want to hurry... the P-Force tactical is now sold out. I would guess the pup would be next to sell out.
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Congrats Dinh on proving that the Pinty Pup is a hunter, nice shooting at 40 yards. Which pellet did you use for that shot?
Hades.
I haven't really had time to really play with this gun. What I do know is that it hits hard, and it shoots straight! Perfect! When I get the time, I want to find out the fps, pellet preference, and shot count. New scope and rings should be here tomorrow. Hopefully, the rings fit and I like the scope.
I am really, really liking this gun! The Notos, my favorite compact pester/plinker for the past 2 years, is a fantastic gun, but it just doesn't have the horse power I need pass 20yd. It's still very early, but I contemplate on getting a 2nd one if the price stays below $250.
Might want to hurry... the P-Force tactical is now sold out. I would guess the pup would be next to sell out.
If it's not meant to be, it's not meant to be. Besides, I'm anxiously awaiting the Air Venturi Micro Strike!
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well i was playing with the QM23 this morning to see if i could get better accuracy by decreasing the
HS tension. i started with 1/4 turns, then 1/2 turns, then a full turn.......not much if any difference
either way up or down. i guess i'm doing it right as there is a screw on the back of the action that appears to be the
HS adjustment---Maybe ??
i bore scoped the barrel and it looks about like a Hatsan barrel, dark with light rifling.
i have cleaned the barrel in the beginning until patches were clean, so maybe i need to polish it next. it only likes
heavy pellets and they are really not that consistent. my scope and mounts are perfect, so back to the drawing board
maybe cut a coil or 2... ::)
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I agree John, the HS adjustment didn"t do much on my Pup either.
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Perhaps, the Monstrum vendors are actually shooters and already know these facts, and are including these fitting info to keep it simple for the buyers. So perhaps when they mention compatibility with both pic and weaver, they are in actually saying that the mounts will clamp down to 19mm.
I got my Amazon order yesterday, and the Monstrum weaver specified scope mount does not fully fasten onto the P-pup's rail. However, along with that order, there was a scope I wanted to try out. It just happens to be a Pinty scope, and it included tall mounts. These mounts fastens snugly onto the P-pup's rail!
So, my initial disappointment was complete turned around because this is a fantastic budget scope! Lightweight, good clarity, side focus, and, so far, accurate. I only wished the reticle had mil dots, but I can live with the duplex reticle. With the gun shooting well over 800fps, the 15.89g Hades was hitting targets from 15yd to 55yd with very little holdover/holdunder. The glass clarity is on par with my Hawke Vantage, the side focus is smooth and not overly tight, and about 3" of eye relief. It's still early, but I gotta say that this is the best budget scope($60) I own, and I own quite a few.
https://a.co/d/50e5XpA
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Perhaps, the Monstrum vendors are actually shooters and already know these facts, and are including these fitting info to keep it simple for the buyers. So perhaps when they mention compatibility with both pic and weaver, they are in actually saying that the mounts will clamp down to 19mm.
I got my Amazon order yesterday, and the Monstrum weaver specified scope mount does not fully fasten onto the P-pup's rail. However, along with that order, there was a scope I wanted to try out. It just happens to be a Pinty scope, and it included tall mounts. These mounts fastens snugly onto the P-pup's rail!
So, my initial disappointment was complete turned around because this is a fantastic budget scope! Lightweight, good clarity, side focus, and, so far, accurate. I only wished the reticle had mil dots, but I can live with the duplex reticle. With the gun shooting well over 800fps, the 15.89g Hades was hitting targets from 15yd to 55yd with very little holdover/holdunder. The glass clarity is on par with my Hawke Vantage, the side focus is smooth and not overly tight, and about 3" of eye relief. It's still early, but I gotta say that this is the best budget scope($60) I own, and I own quite a few.
https://a.co/d/50e5XpA
Dinh... does that scope really weigh 2.1 pounds?
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I agree John, the HS adjustment didn"t do much on my Pup either.
Likely the HS is too long
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Perhaps, the Monstrum vendors are actually shooters and already know these facts, and are including these fitting info to keep it simple for the buyers. So perhaps when they mention compatibility with both pic and weaver, they are in actually saying that the mounts will clamp down to 19mm.
I got my Amazon order yesterday, and the Monstrum weaver specified scope mount does not fully fasten onto the P-pup's rail. However, along with that order, there was a scope I wanted to try out. It just happens to be a Pinty scope, and it included tall mounts. These mounts fastens snugly onto the P-pup's rail!
So, my initial disappointment was complete turned around because this is a fantastic budget scope! Lightweight, good clarity, side focus, and, so far, accurate. I only wished the reticle had mil dots, but I can live with the duplex reticle. With the gun shooting well over 800fps, the 15.89g Hades was hitting targets from 15yd to 55yd with very little holdover/holdunder. The glass clarity is on par with my Hawke Vantage, the side focus is smooth and not overly tight, and about 3" of eye relief. It's still early, but I gotta say that this is the best budget scope($60) I own, and I own quite a few.
https://a.co/d/50e5XpA
Dinh... does that scope really weigh 2.1 pounds?
No, 1.3lb
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Perhaps, the Monstrum vendors are actually shooters and already know these facts, and are including these fitting info to keep it simple for the buyers. So perhaps when they mention compatibility with both pic and weaver, they are in actually saying that the mounts will clamp down to 19mm.
I got my Amazon order yesterday, and the Monstrum weaver specified scope mount does not fully fasten onto the P-pup's rail. However, along with that order, there was a scope I wanted to try out. It just happens to be a Pinty scope, and it included tall mounts. These mounts fastens snugly onto the P-pup's rail!
So, my initial disappointment was complete turned around because this is a fantastic budget scope! Lightweight, good clarity, side focus, and, so far, accurate. I only wished the reticle had mil dots, but I can live with the duplex reticle. With the gun shooting well over 800fps, the 15.89g Hades was hitting targets from 15yd to 55yd with very little holdover/holdunder. The glass clarity is on par with my Hawke Vantage, the side focus is smooth and not overly tight, and about 3" of eye relief. It's still early, but I gotta say that this is the best budget scope($60) I own, and I own quite a few.
https://a.co/d/50e5XpA
Dinh... does that scope really weigh 2.1 pounds?
No, 1.3lb
Oh ok, I must have looked at the wrong description. Maybe this is boxed shipping weight with rings, allen wrench and packing included.
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Oh ok, I must have looked at the wrong description. Maybe this is boxed shipping weight with rings, allen wrench and packing included.
Yea. Figuring the rings, scope covers, tool and manual, and a very beefy box would bring it to around 2lb.
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Oh ok, I must have looked at the wrong description. Maybe this is boxed shipping weight with rings, allen wrench and packing included.
Yea. Figuring the rings, scope covers, tool and manual, and a very beefy box would bring it to around 2lb.
Got ya... I'm a big fan of the SF and this looks like a good deal.
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Xraycer is the scope tube 25.4 or 30 mm ?
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Xraycer is the scope tube 25.4 or 30 mm ?
30mm
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Thank you- think I will order a few for my P-RIFLE P-FORCE AND P-PUP.
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Thank you- think I will order a few for my P-RIFLE P-FORCE AND P-PUP.
Does the Prifle and Ptactical have the same rail issue as the Ppup?
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My P-FORCE rail is weaver / picatany and seems fine and the P-RIFLE is dovetail. I have no issues with either one.
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I think the pup was the only one with the rail issue.
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i have requested a return label for a replacement pup, or a refund.......its in there hands now ???
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i have requested a return label for a replacement pup, or a refund.......its in there hands now ???
What issues are you having?
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it would not group with over 25 different pellets. some that you guys said worked good with yours....
33.95gr was about 1.5"@ 30yrds and the 25.39 1+"
poorly consistent, flyers every 3rd of 4th shot.
i tryed adjusting the HS with no better results or FPS change.. before i go cutting springs which could void the warranty,
i'm done with it.
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Xraycer is the scope tube 25.4 or 30 mm ?
30mm
Sorry, Richard, it's actually a 1" tube.
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Sorry to hear John, hopefully they will take care of it post haste.
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Sorry to hear John, hopefully they will take care of it post haste.
They'll likely give him a refund (or new gun) and then this will be back in stock and some poor sucker will buy it......
https://pintydevices.com/products/second-hand-9-pellet-22cal-bullpup-pcp-air-gun-high-power
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Sorry to hear John, hopefully they will take care of it post haste.
They'll likely give him a refund (or new gun) and then this will be back in stock and some poor sucker will buy it......
https://pintydevices.com/products/second-hand-9-pellet-22cal-bullpup-pcp-air-gun-high-power
Nope.....they just told me by email, there sending me a new gun and to keep the old one but provide them with photo's of the groups.
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I would be in for a $100 P-Force Tactical just for the parts... have you priced a Huben Cricket regulator? You would get all the good parts for spares that I don't see offered right now.
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Sorry to hear John, hopefully they will take care of it post haste.
They'll likely give him a refund (or new gun) and then this will be back in stock and some poor sucker will buy it......
https://pintydevices.com/products/second-hand-9-pellet-22cal-bullpup-pcp-air-gun-high-power
Nope.....they just told me by email, there sending me a new gun and to keep the old one but provide them with photo's of the groups.
Well Dang, that's a heck of a deal... a free parts gun.
I wonder how they would handle that if it was the sold out tactical.
LOL... I bet your PM box is going to blow up with offers... haha
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Sorry to hear John, hopefully they will take care of it post haste.
They'll likely give him a refund (or new gun) and then this will be back in stock and some poor sucker will buy it......
https://pintydevices.com/products/second-hand-9-pellet-22cal-bullpup-pcp-air-gun-high-power
Nope.....they just told me by email, there sending me a new gun and to keep the old one but provide them with photo's of the groups.
That's fantastic, John!
Hopefully, all goes well with the replacement, and you get the bonus of having spares!
These people seems to do right for their customers. When UPS lost my first shipment, Pinty immediately sent out a replacement. They promptly replied to all my emails.
So far, I am totally loving this gun! I'm going to keep checking in on their second hand section to pick up another pup just for spares.
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Sorry to hear John, hopefully they will take care of it post haste.
They'll likely give him a refund (or new gun) and then this will be back in stock and some poor sucker will buy it......
https://pintydevices.com/products/second-hand-9-pellet-22cal-bullpup-pcp-air-gun-high-power
Nope.....they just told me by email, there sending me a new gun and to keep the old one but provide them with photo's of the groups.
Well Dang, that's a heck of a deal... a free parts gun.
I wonder how they would handle that if it was the sold out tactical.
I would guess: a refund or a store credit.
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Sorry to hear John, hopefully they will take care of it post haste.
They'll likely give him a refund (or new gun) and then this will be back in stock and some poor sucker will buy it......
https://pintydevices.com/products/second-hand-9-pellet-22cal-bullpup-pcp-air-gun-high-power
Nope.....they just told me by email, there sending me a new gun and to keep the old one but provide them with photo's of the groups.
Well Dang, that's a heck of a deal... a free parts gun.
I wonder how they would handle that if it was the sold out tactical.
LOL... I bet your PM box is going to blow up with offers... haha
NOT FOR SALE !
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Sorry to hear John, hopefully they will take care of it post haste.
They'll likely give him a refund (or new gun) and then this will be back in stock and some poor sucker will buy it......
https://pintydevices.com/products/second-hand-9-pellet-22cal-bullpup-pcp-air-gun-high-power
Nope.....they just told me by email, there sending me a new gun and to keep the old one but provide them with photo's of the groups.
Well Dang, that's a heck of a deal... a free parts gun.
I wonder how they would handle that if it was the sold out tactical.
LOL... I bet your PM box is going to blow up with offers... haha
NOT FOR SALE !
LOL... I don't blame you one bit.
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Matter of fact... THammer is doing some great things with caliber swaps and what not.. he might have a spare barrel or even do you an upgrade on yours. I think the gun is worthy of becoming a .25.
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Great news John!!!
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Today, I installed a sling stud onto the P-pup, to utilize the UTG Recon 360 bipod.
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Finally, got around to testing P-pup with my .22 inventory. H&N Baracuda Hunter Extreme was the big winner. The very first 3 shots went into the same hole! The P-pup absolutely hated CPHP! I've never had a gun that shot any pellets this badly. As I'm typing this, a thought just occurred to me whether I may have loaded the pellets backwards . I'll have to try CPHP again to be sure.
Testing was from a distance of 25yd. Gun was on a bipod with the butt stock supported by shoulders and hands. 5 rounds per pellet model, with the exception of CPHP which was 9 rounds.
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Dinh I had the same results with CPUM dome, my PuP didn't like them at all. It also didn't like the 21 gn Apolo slugs I tried, but it loves 21 gn H&N Baracuda pellets. I am doing more tests with the Apolo 18 gn pellets and so far they are doing great. Too much wind for definitive results at 50 yards yet.
BTW, I printed a Picatinny tank mount for the bipod I have on the way, should be here by the weekend. Will post pics... I also settled on a sling option , will pick up parts tomorrow.
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received #2 QM-23 yesterday afternoon. this was a brand new gun, not returned or refurbished
with all accessories.
1st i cleaned the barrel, and boy was it bad !! it appears to be some type of preservative coating.
it took about 9 ballistol soaked patches and a couple dry ones in between and in the end.
clean as a whistle then.
then i pumped her up from empty, had to cock the gun to close the seat. it took about
4 minutes to reach 250bar with the GX-CS4.
mounted a Discovery VT-3 4-16x44 SF-FFP with UTG pro rings that fit the rail which
was installed on the 1st pup. started to sight-in and found it to be very close as the 1st
pup's sight-in...... 8)
took a beer carton and drawed 3/4" circles on it to use as targets @ 35yrds
started out with about 6 different pellets and they all were much better controlled
grouping within 1.5" than the scattergun affect the 1st pup had !!
got it down to liking the 18.1 jsb and 18.5 H&N/BHE both were inside and touching the 3/4" circle @ 35yrds. 8)
now lets try some slugs !!!! i had several NSA slugs that were ok, and some KO's did good, then i tried
the FX hybrid/RMR slap slugs and they literally stole the 'hole' show !!
all 9 shots inside the circle as 1 big hole !
then i got curious......my son slugged the barrel to find which appears to not be choked.
so that explains why it shoot slugs very good.
im going to try a few more pellets when they come in from PA next week.
so all in all, #2 pup is a winner, and it held its 250bar pressure all night !! ;D
now for critters on the feeders :o
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(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/Themes/CustomGTA2023/images/post/thumbup.gif)
Good news ! 8)
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received #2 QM-23 yesterday afternoon. this was a brand new gun, not returned or refurbished
with all accessories.
1st i cleaned the barrel, and boy was it bad !! it appears to be some type of preservative coating.
it took about 9 ballistol soaked patches and a couple dry ones in between and in the end.
clean as a whistle then.
then i pumped her up from empty, had to cock the gun to close the seat. it took about
4 minutes to reach 250bar with the GX-CS4.
mounted a Discovery VT-3 4-16x44 SF-FFP with UTG pro rings that fit the rail which
was installed on the 1st pup. started to sight-in and found it to be very close as the 1st
pup's sight-in...... 8)
took a beer carton and drawed 3/4" circles on it to use as targets @ 35yrds
started out with about 6 different pellets and they all were much better controlled
grouping within 1.5" than the scattergun affect the 1st pup had !!
got it down to liking the 18.1 jsb and 18.5 H&N/BHE both were inside and touching the 3/4" circle @ 35yrds. 8)
now lets try some slugs !!!! i had several NSA slugs that were ok, and some KO's did good, then i tried
the FX hybrid/RMR slap slugs and they literally stole the 'hole' show !!
all 9 shots inside the circle as 1 big hole !
then i got curious......my son slugged the barrel to find which appears to not be choked.
so that explains why it shoot slugs very good.
im going to try a few more pellets when they come in from PA next week.
so all in all, #2 pup is a winner, and it held its 250bar pressure all night !! ;D
now for critters on the feeders :o
I'm glad Pinty has redeemed itself for you! I've tried the JSB Shockwave and Knockout, and they did just ok. I'll have to give those FX a try.
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My bullpup was supposed to arrive Friday, but tracking says it's only about 30 miles away, and will be delivered tomorrow!
My gun was supposed to be delivered last Friday(2/28), but UPS lost it. Pinty sent out another one 3/5. Delivery says 3/12. Fingers crossed!
I came home today and spot a package by my garage door. I had a feeling by the shape and size of the box, it may be my lost, original P-pup. Sure enough, it was!
I just emailed Pinty, to send me a shipping label, and I would resend it back to them.
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your a good man Dinh....... ;)
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Best thing to do... especially if you paid with a card. Once tracking shows it was delivered they would likely charge the card.
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your a good man Dinh....... ;)
The little guy on my shoulder with the halo won out this time ;D
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Best thing to do... especially if you paid with a card. Once tracking shows it was delivered they would likely charge the card.
Hmm
I've never thought of that. I'm gonna keep an eye on that pp acct.....just in case.
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your a good man Dinh....... ;)
The little guy on my shoulder with the halo won out this time ;D
that little guy is a great guy too....... 8)
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Best thing to do... especially if you paid with a card. Once tracking shows it was delivered they would likely charge the card.
Hmm
I've never thought of that. I'm gonna keep an eye on that pp acct.....just in case.
If I'm not mistaken I think I read that another guy had something like this happen and they told him just to keep the extra gun.
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Best thing to do... especially if you paid with a card. Once tracking shows it was delivered they would likely charge the card.
Hmm
I've never thought of that. I'm gonna keep an eye on that pp acct.....just in case.
If I'm not mistaken I think I read that another guy had something like this happen and they told him just to keep the extra gun.
i dont recall that happening, but that is exactly what they told me when my 1st pup failed right out of the box.
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Best thing to do... especially if you paid with a card. Once tracking shows it was delivered they would likely charge the card.
Hmm
I've never thought of that. I'm gonna keep an eye on that pp acct.....just in case.
If I'm not mistaken I think I read that another guy had something like this happen and they told him just to keep the extra gun.
i dont recall that happening, but that is exactly what they told me when my 1st pup failed right out of the box.
Maybe your case is what I am remembering. Memory ain't what it used to be.
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Anybody try the baracuda hunters in their pup-force?
I saw nsa slugs did ok. Which ones did you try that did ok?
Very curious how these will do at 100 yds.
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Anybody try the baracuda hunters in their pup-force?
I saw nsa slugs did ok. Which ones did you try that did ok?
Very curious how these will do at 100 yds.
At 25yd, my H&N Baracuda Hunter Extreme is so far the pup's favorite ammo. Don't bother with CPHP because it absolutely hates it!
I don't shoot pass 60yd, so can't help you with 100yd shooting.
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The gentleman over at the other forum that was making the custom magazines for the Pinty Bullpup has completed his testing and is ready to begin production. The picture below shows what the magazines look like, a hinged top with magnet design holding 12 .22 cal pellets or slugs. He can also make .177 mags for anyone that might be looking to convert the Pinty Bullpup to .177 cal. The price for one mag is $26.00 shipped to your door and additional mags in the same order are $23.00 each.
The gentleman is a one man hobby operation, and you will have to reach out to him with any questions or to place an order. (I have placed my order but have not received my magazines yet)
His email address is jupiterising12@proton.me
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It looks interesting, but how is it loaded? I am assuming there is a spring and the blue part needs to be turned to wind it. But that is as far as I can figure. What holds it in place to load the ammo?
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It looks interesting, but how is it loaded? I am assuming there is a spring and the blue part needs to be turned to wind it. But that is as far as I can figure. What holds it in place to load the ammo?
My guess is the blue wheel is turned fully counter clockwise, and then the 10 o'clock slot is placed with a pellet to hold the spring loaded blue wheel in place.
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I will report on these questions when I receive my magazines.
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The Pinty bullpup is back in stock on the Pinty website
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The Pinty bullpup is back in stock on the Pinty website
Was it ever OOS? Looks like they still have 8 left, no "new" shipment
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Dinh, I received the two custom magazines for the Bullpup and you are correct in your assumption of how the mag is loaded. Both of my mags loaded and functioned flawlessly so far, and the design is clever and works well. I would post pictures but they look identical to the picture already posted.
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Try using "GTA" for the discount code... ;) Should get you $40 off.
Sometimes it pays to read the GTA ads at the top of the page.
Amen to that! I used it this morning for mine!
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Try using "GTA" for the discount code... ;) Should get you $40 off.
Sometimes it pays to read the GTA ads at the top of the page.
Amen to that! I used it this morning for mine!
Well, since you are already here Jim. Reply 183 above is the magazine information.
~ Papa T
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Added some goodies to the bullpup. 3-way 3D printed tank-mounted picatinny rail set and a bipod that collapses small enough to match the barrel and airtube.
Did you print the tube mount, or order it? If you ordered, from where, and what is the correct size? Thanks!
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I printed my tube mount. The gentleman that is making the custom magazines also has a tube mount.
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A gentleman over on another forum is making custom magazines for the Snowpeak P35 and has suggested that he would make magazines for the Pinty Bullpup if the intrest is there. Let me know if you would be interested in afterrmarket magazines for the Pinty Pup and hopefully he will take on the task!
. Definitely want aftermarket mags for my P-Pup, and I just ordered it this morning! Sign me up for a few!
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LOL... not many different ways to unbox a gun. :o
Step 1: Cut tape
Step 2: Open box
Step 3: Remove gun
Step 4: Inspect gun
Step 5: Spend the next 5 hours editing video.
Hahahahahahaha! That's the way I was taught to inbox things!
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A gentleman over on another forum is making custom magazines for the Snowpeak P35 and has suggested that he would make magazines for the Pinty Bullpup if the intrest is there. Let me know if you would be interested in afterrmarket magazines for the Pinty Pup and hopefully he will take on the task!
. Definitely want aftermarket mags for my P-Pup, and I just ordered it this morning! Sign me up for a few!
I think you just email the feller at the email listed in reply 183.
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Try using "GTA" for the discount code... ;) Should get you $40 off.
Sometimes it pays to read the GTA ads at the top of the page.
Amen to that! I used it this morning for mine!
Well, since you are already here Jim. Reply 183 above is the magazine information.
~ Papa T
Thanks for the info about the mags! I wasn't even aware this thread existed until Avator let me know this am. I just emailed the gentleman about the mags he makes, and keeping my fingers crossed that my Pup will shoot strait!
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Added some goodies to the bullpup. 3-way 3D printed tank-mounted picatinny rail set and a bipod that collapses small enough to match the barrel and airtube.
Did you print the tube mount, or order it? If you ordered, from where, and what is the correct size? Thanks!
I ordered this set of 3D printer files and printed out the one with 3 rails - 2 sides and one on bottom for my bipod. Worked great. Size is 30-32mm airtube
https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/various/clip-on-rails-for-pcp-airguns-30-32mm-tubes-umarex-notos-etc-low-profile-picat
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Caution Pinty Flashpup owners... I noticed yesterday afternoon after shooting my Flashpup that the collar that the shroud screws into had moved up the barrel about a half inch and the grub screw that holds it had scored the barrel a bit as it moved up. I assume that happened because the grub screw had loosened up? Once I had the shroud off there were no signs of pellet clipping on any of the baffles, so I reassembled everything and will be watching to see if the grub screw gets loose again. (May need some Blue Loctite...) Might want to check your grub screw tighness!!
With the shroud off I noticed that the barrrel is threaded, but don't think it is 1/2-20?
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Thanks, Steve! I'll check mine tonight. Think I'll actually remove the shroud, and see if my Buck Rail modular 1/2-20 ldc will fit the thread.
This may be beneficial since I don't find the stock silencing system has a bit of a bark to it. So, if it is 1/2-20 threaded, an aftermarket ldc may quiet it down more. As long as it doesn't add too much extra overall length to the gun (for me).
I'll certainly apply blue locker to that screw, regardless.
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I tried to screw on one of the 1/2-20 printed moderators I made but it didn't feel like the threads were correct. Interested in your results with the Buck Rail.
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I tried to screw on one of the 1/2-20 printed moderators I made but it didn't feel like the threads were correct. Interested in your results with the Buck Rail.
I'm betting the P-pup isn't 1/2-20, but I'll give it a try. The BR modular ldc has metal threading, so it should be easy to confirm.
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Looks like I may be incorrect about the 1/2-20, my Donny FL Tanto screws on to the Pup and seems to line up properly. When I retried the printed moderator it seemed to line up properly as well, just feels loose going on, but lines up when screwed all the way down.
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Well, with the shroud back on my Pup, and the grub screw as tight as I can get it, I can see the collar begin to move again after five or six shots, so the collar is trashed. My Donny FL Tanto is an inch shorter on the rifle than the shroud, so there is room for an even longer ldc without over extending the rifle length. The Tanto is 1.22 inches in diameter and there is a little room between it and the tank for something slightly bigger. Hopefully the BR ldc will fit. Looking forward to your results.
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Well my collar and grub screw were secure when I checked it. I went ahead and removed the shroud. Unfortunately, the 1.5" diameter BR modular ldc is too big with the air tube in place. I put a bit of thread locker on the grub screw and reassembled the shroud.
Good to know that it is 1/2-20! I have another BR shroud on the way for one of my 2 Webley Nemesis X pcp, and it should be narrower. I'll try it on the P-pup to see if it reduces the report over the stock shroud.
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Sounds great. It does not seem that the Tanto reduces the noise quite as well as the shroud, but I will have to try some others as my shroud will not stay on now... :(
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Sounds great. It does not seem that the Tanto reduces the noise quite as well as the shroud, but I will have to try some others as my shroud will not stay on now... :(
So, the thread on the collar must be stripped. How about taking a Dremel and grinding a small pit into the barrel? This would allow the grub screw to be set into the pit, and prevent the shroud from moving off the barrel.
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That is certainly a possibility, and I may go that route, but now that I know the barrel is threaded 1/2-20, I may try a few other things first... 8)
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Or you could redrill and tap for a slightly bigger grub.
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The threads for the grub seem fine, but the grub itself has a completely flat, somewhat broad end which does not grab the barrel very well. I still think a pit was a good idea, but I will replace the grub with a better one if I go that route.
A BR Modular Supressor is on its way to me now and I will try it on the PuP. It may live there, or might get moved to my Airforce Escape UL if it does a good job.
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I picked up this 450 piece grub screw kit from Amazon.. It has some common screws in it for airguns.
The price was right.. especially if you need a little something to hit the free shipping minimum.
https://a.co/d/30LcGSV
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Nice, I may pick up one of those kits as well, thanks. I did find a couple of slightly longer grubs from another project that fits the collar and looks like they might work better.
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Yeah, I used 2 of the M5 - 12 for the trigger mod on my Avenger... night and day difference.
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Got my P-Pup in this afternoon! Gave it a good going over, checked all my screws, cleaned the bore. All nice and shiny now. Added my Pinty scope and mounts, filled her with air, no leakage heard, but have it sitting until tomorrow. Only thing is, I hate these magazines! They are trash in every way in my opinion. A backwards loaded pellet waiting to happen! Glad I ordered the aftermarkets.
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...I hate these magazines! They are trash in every way in my opinion. A backwards loaded pellet waiting to happen! Glad I ordered the aftermarkets.
I think they're fine. I've used better and I've used worst. These fall somewhere in-between. At least they work, unlike the Notos' magazines.
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Got my P-Pup in this afternoon! Gave it a good going over, checked all my screws, cleaned the bore. All nice and shiny now. Added my Pinty scope and mounts, filled her with air, no leakage heard, but have it sitting until tomorrow. Only thing is, I hate these magazines! They are trash in every way in my opinion. A backwards loaded pellet waiting to happen! Glad I ordered the aftermarkets.
Yay! Glad it has arrived, and looking forward to your experiences with it.
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So has anyone gotten the correct rail on the Bullpup?
According to my Ser.#, I have number 19, and the rail is correct. it just arrived today, and that was the very first thing I checked for. Maybe I got lucky!
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...I hate these magazines! They are trash in every way in my opinion. A backwards loaded pellet waiting to happen! Glad I ordered the aftermarkets.
I think they're fine. I've used better and I've used worst. These fall somewhere in-between. At least they work, unlike the Notos' magazines.
Yeah, I've got a Notos as well. One use and I ordered a handful of the Maple after markets for it as well. I even have one of the 15 rounders for it. They work like a champ.
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So has anyone gotten the correct rail on the Bullpup?
According to my Ser.#, I have number 19, and the rail is correct. it just arrived today, and that was the very first thing I checked for. Maybe I got lucky!
If you're using Pinty mounts, it will fit fine. It's the other standard picatinny mounts that will not fully clamp onto the P-pup's rail.
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...I hate these magazines! They are trash in every way in my opinion. A backwards loaded pellet waiting to happen! Glad I ordered the aftermarkets.
I think they're fine. I've used better and I've used worst. These fall somewhere in-between. At least they work, unlike the Notos' magazines.
Yeah, I've got a Notos as well. One use and I ordered a handful of the Maple after markets for it as well. I even have one of the 15 rounders for it. They work like a champ.
I've got their single loader, and I actually prefer that over magazines when I'm bench shooting.
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Got my P-Pup in this afternoon! Gave it a good going over, checked all my screws, cleaned the bore. All nice and shiny now. Added my Pinty scope and mounts, filled her with air, no leakage heard, but have it sitting until tomorrow. Only thing is, I hate these magazines! They are trash in every way in my opinion. A backwards loaded pellet waiting to happen! Glad I ordered the aftermarkets.
Checked it a few minutes ago, no air leaks! Gonna give my coffee time to kick in, then got see if I can get her zeroed in at 20. Yards. Already have a selection of 5 pellet types and weights to try.
Yay! Glad it has arrived, and looking forward to your experiences with it.
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So has anyone gotten the correct rail on the Bullpup?
According to my Ser.#, I have number 19, and the rail is correct. it just arrived today, and that was the very first thing I checked for. Maybe I got lucky!
If you're using Pinty mounts, it will fit fine. It's the other standard picatinny mounts that will not fully clamp onto the P-pup's rail.
Yep, Pinty mounts. After reading the issues others had, I figured go ahead and play it safe. I was kinda naive, thinking after checking post dates, surely problem been fixed, since date of others were in Feb. Lol, apparently not so much, since I got a lower serial numbered rifle. Glad I took the safe route and went Pinty for scope and mount. Scope is actually pretty nice too, side focus, pretty clear glass.
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Yay! Glad it has arrived, and looking forward to your experiences with it.
Checked it a few minutes ago, no air leaks! Gonna give my coffee time to kick in, then got see if I can get her zeroed in at 20. Yards. Already have a selection of 5 pellet types and weights to try.
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I can tell you right now to not even bother with CPHP.
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Yay! Glad it has arrived, and looking forward to your experiences with it.
Checked it a few minutes ago, no air leaks! Gonna give my coffee time to kick in, then got see if I can get her zeroed in at 20. Yards. Already have a selection of 5 pellet types and weights to try.
I can tell you right now to not even bother with CPHP.
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Hahahahaha, yeah, I've been seeing that as well! Nope, not even gonna give them a try. I will save those for my 392, 362, and Arrow. They love them. No sense in wasting their food.
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Yay! Glad it has arrived, and looking forward to your experiences with it.
Checked it a few minutes ago, no air leaks! Gonna give my coffee time to kick in, then got see if I can get her zeroed in at 20. Yards. Already have a selection of 5 pellet types and weights to try.
I can tell you right now to not even bother with CPHP.
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Hahahahaha, yeah, I've been seeing that as well! Nope, not even gonna give them a try. I will save those for my 392, 362, and Arrow. They love them. No sense in wasting their food.
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To this day, I'm still shocked at how much the Notos likes CPHP.