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Title: Are these the same scope?
Post by: Joe Smith on January 30, 2025, 12:24:51 AM
https://www.combathunting.com/AR15_M16_M4_SCOPES-SWAT_4-16X44_IE_Scope_36_Color_Reticle_AO_Mil-Dot_1.html

The scope above - is it the same as the one below?

https://www.pyramydair.com/product/leapers-utg-4-16x44-ao-accushot-swat-rifle-scope-ez-tap-illuminated?a=5191

The second one at PyramydAir and other Air rifle specific sites has the "Tru Strength"  label on it while the first does not "say" it.

Specs are very close, but not identical.

Cost is different.

Are they the same scope & OK for air rifles?
Title: Re: Are these the same scope?
Post by: Back_Roads on January 30, 2025, 09:15:39 AM
 Look to be the same per descriptions, and I did a legit check on combathunting, they seem to check out OK too. I have found optics cheaper than PA many times.
Title: Re: Are these the same scope?
Post by: mobilehomer on January 30, 2025, 12:04:45 PM
Wirhout the Leapers part number you can't be certain. They do have similar scopes with minor differences. They are all good, though. I have several.
Title: Re: Are these the same scope?
Post by: lefteyeshot on January 30, 2025, 12:14:45 PM
The upper says 390mm long which is 15.3543 inches.

The lower says 11.14 inches.

On the lower click read more.
Title: Re: Are these the same scope?
Post by: Rick67 on January 30, 2025, 12:28:58 PM
The upper says 390mm long which is 15.3543 inches.

The lower says 11.14 inches.

On the lower click read more.


Yes, PA’s is obviously a compact version.

Had one like it but with a glass-etched U-MOA hash-type reticle.
Title: Re: Are these the same scope?
Post by: Roadworthy on January 30, 2025, 02:39:29 PM
I do not know if the Leapers scope is airgun rated but they do have a lifetime guarantee - if you save your receipt for proof of purchase.  Watch out, some of their scopes have an etched reticle but they have similar less expensive models which do not.  I learned that when I saved a few bucks on a Leapers scope.  Generally scopes with a 30mm tube are considered sturdier than those with the one inch tube.
Title: Re: Are these the same scope?
Post by: Joe Smith on January 30, 2025, 09:32:05 PM
Answers are the reason I asked. Length - didn't see it. Tired eyes(I'll stick with that excuse...)

Any practical reason the overall length will make a difference in use?

Use will be on the AA S510 FAC SuperLight in /177 so "air gun rated" probably doesn't make much difference.

My main concern was/is getting the scope that will work best for me with this rifle. Mainly pesting, not targets.

Have been concerned about using it much due to how beautiful it is. Nervous about nicks & dings. Realize that is silly now - I'll use it and when it shows a bit of wear, live with it.

Appreciate the answers, thanks folks.

Title: Re: Are these the same scope?
Post by: Rick67 on January 31, 2025, 01:23:24 AM
Answers are the reason I asked. Length - didn't see it. Tired eyes(I'll stick with that excuse...)

Any practical reason the overall length will make a difference in use?

Use will be on the AA S510 FAC SuperLight in /177 so "air gun rated" probably doesn't make much difference.

My main concern was/is getting the scope that will work best for me with this rifle. Mainly pesting, not targets.

Have been concerned about using it much due to how beautiful it is. Nervous about nicks & dings. Realize that is silly now - I'll use it and when it shows a bit of wear, live with it.

Appreciate the answers, thanks folks.


The compact one isn't really that short, so I was able to mount mine on a Walther Rotek with no issues concerning eye relief.


You might want to check this one out:


https://www.walmart.com/ip/Crosman-Centerpoint-3-12x44mm-Ptl-Rifle-Scope/578419421

It's only 12x though but so much cheaper.
Title: Re: Are these the same scope?
Post by: Tater on January 31, 2025, 05:33:40 AM
Moved to the Optics Gate.