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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: kbstingwing on May 14, 2024, 12:49:13 PM
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Well, I finally got the stupid Lathe to work right, after not having the right gears for threading 1.25 pitch threads, I got the new gear set and still didn't have the right gears, so I decided to find the closest thread to 1.25 pitch, well turns out 20 pitch is almost exactly the same and I had the gears for that????? ???, so I also needed 1.50 pitch witch I had the gears for... ;) then the lead screw Bearing seized up... >:( >:( :-[ :'(, fortunately it wasn't bad, so I took it apart and cleaned it and lubed it with some good Moly grease, this is a Lathe that has hardly been used? ??? ??? ??? oh well, so I made my bottle adapter and a Plug/fill port that fit just right, tapped a fill port into the side of the plug which works out perfectly for airing up, I cut the stock to fit the bottle and I made a Barrel/ Bottle Band I designed on tinkercad, it's a prefect fit but I need longer M4 screws for the clamp between the barrel and the Bottle, I mounted a picatinny rail to the bottom of the Barrel band which I had M5 Screws and nut holes already in the design, sorry I am notorious for not documenting my entire built process, but here's a few pictures of it after the process.
Thanks
Kevin
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Dialed in the scope and did a shot count, gun regulator set to 2800 psi, shooting 875 fps, shooting JSB King Heavy MKll's 33.95grn, shot 48 rounds, from a 4500 psi fill on 500cc tank, down to 4000 psi, Estimate 150 +/- shots from 4500 psi to 2800 psi, not to bad, plenty for hunting and the gun weight is 6.6 lbs, Stock Avenger weight is 6.4 lbs, with the Discovery scope and Westhunter rings it weighs 8.1 lbs.
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Awesome!
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Oh...YEAH Kevin! That is AWESOME! Excellent lathe work! Now I know who to send my not yet purchased Notos too for bottle mods.....😂👍...critters BEWARE! Ha!
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Awesome!
thanks Wendy, it's much better with 150 shots per fill
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Oh...YEAH Kevin! That is AWESOME! Excellent lathe work! Now I know who to send my not yet purchased Notos too for bottle mods.....😂👍...critters BEWARE! Ha!
Thanks Randall, I had to fight the lathe the whole way.... :o :o :o
Don't forget Firewalker is the one who is doing the bottle mods for the Notos, so give him a PM when your ready. ;)
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Oh...YEAH Kevin! That is AWESOME! Excellent lathe work! Now I know who to send my not yet purchased Notos too for bottle mods.....😂👍...critters BEWARE! Ha!
Thanks Randall, I had to fight the lathe the whole way.... :o :o :o
Don't forget Firewalker is the one who is doing the bottle mods for the Notos, so give him a PM when your ready. ;)
Fight fight......WIN! LOL! Yes, Firewalker is the Notos dude for sure! How is TX treating you with all that WONDERFUL BRISKET!? ☺️
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Well done!
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Oh...YEAH Kevin! That is AWESOME! Excellent lathe work! Now I know who to send my not yet purchased Notos too for bottle mods.....😂👍...critters BEWARE! Ha!
Thanks Randall, I had to fight the lathe the whole way.... :o :o :o
Don't forget Firewalker is the one who is doing the bottle mods for the Notos, so give him a PM when your ready. ;)
Fight fight......WIN! LOL! Yes, Firewalker is the Notos dude for sure! How is TX treating you with all that WONDERFUL BRISKET!? ☺️
Brisket is a staple food for me now, I even put it on my Pizza.... :o :o 8)
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Well done!
Thanks Dihn, you know these cheap Lathes are really terrible, you have to rebuild them every time you go to use them, they are very sloppy and trying to make them work is more work than you want.... ::) :-[, but I got it done.. ;)
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Just finished making a Bottle conversion kit for my Friend, I am getting old, I goofed on the thread sizing and cut too much material from one of the parts, had to make a new one, I'm getting tired of threading parts on the lathe and threading all together, what a pain, no wonder they invented the CNC..... ;)
Oh well, I sent it off to him this Morning. ;)
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Well, I finally got the stupid Lathe to work right, after not having the right gears for threading 1.25 pitch threads, I got the new gear set and still didn't have the right gears, so I decided to find the closest thread to 1.25 pitch, well turns out 20 pitch is almost exactly the same and I had the gears for that????? ???, so I also needed 1.50 pitch witch I had the gears for... ;) then the lead screw Bearing seized up... >:( >:( :-[ :'(, fortunately it wasn't bad, so I took it apart and cleaned it and lubed it with some good Moly grease, this is a Lathe that has hardly been used? ??? ??? ??? oh well, so I made my bottle adapter and a Plug/fill port that fit just right, tapped a fill port into the side of the plug which works out perfectly for airing up, I cut the stock to fit the bottle and I made a Barrel/ Bottle Band I designed on tinkercad, it's a prefect fit but I need longer M4 screws for the clamp between the barrel and the Bottle, I mounted a picatinny rail to the bottom of the Barrel band which I had M5 Screws and nut holes already in the design, sorry I am notorious for not documenting my entire built process, but here's a few pictures of it after the process.
Thanks
Kevin
Dear Kevin,
After my science project with the interior Huma regulator and then unregulated search for a SSS hammer on the .303 Challenger I am considering a 2800psi output bottle. I found a couple of bottle and regulator options on AliEx and of course Hajimoto makes a Gauntlet kit. I see you went with a 4500 PSI bottle and at your regulater pressure expect 150ish 875fps shots (fast enough to expand HPs).
Here are my questions;
1. I assume you made the drop-block on your lathe because there is not a source for one?
2. If you would consider making one for the .303 Challenger, please DM me.
3. My GX-CS1 is struggling with my 4000psi fills on the .33L tube is there a way to calculate how many shots I would get from a 3000psi bottle with a 2800psi output?
4. I was thinking barrel band with enough bottom Pic rail to mount a bi-pod and qdc sling....also DM me if you would be open to making that as part of my bespoke kit....
5. Looks like you sheared off your stock to accommodate the bottle. I have the tools to do that to my wood stock as long as that is just past the magic bottom stock bolt. Wood and steel lovers are cringing at this point...lol
Thanks in advance
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Well, I finally got the stupid Lathe to work right, after not having the right gears for threading 1.25 pitch threads, I got the new gear set and still didn't have the right gears, so I decided to find the closest thread to 1.25 pitch, well turns out 20 pitch is almost exactly the same and I had the gears for that????? ???, so I also needed 1.50 pitch witch I had the gears for... ;) then the lead screw Bearing seized up... >:( >:( :-[ :'(, fortunately it wasn't bad, so I took it apart and cleaned it and lubed it with some good Moly grease, this is a Lathe that has hardly been used? ??? ??? ??? oh well, so I made my bottle adapter and a Plug/fill port that fit just right, tapped a fill port into the side of the plug which works out perfectly for airing up, I cut the stock to fit the bottle and I made a Barrel/ Bottle Band I designed on tinkercad, it's a prefect fit but I need longer M4 screws for the clamp between the barrel and the Bottle, I mounted a picatinny rail to the bottom of the Barrel band which I had M5 Screws and nut holes already in the design, sorry I am notorious for not documenting my entire built process, but here's a few pictures of it after the process.
Thanks
Kevin
Dear Kevin,
After my science project with the interior Huma regulator and then unregulated search for a SSS hammer on the .303 Challenger I am considering a 2800psi output bottle. I found a couple of bottle and regulator options on AliEx and of course Hajimoto makes a Gauntlet kit. I see you went with a 4500 PSI bottle and at your regulater pressure expect 150ish 875fps shots (fast enough to expand HPs).
Here are my questions;
1. I assume you made the drop-block on your lathe because there is not a source for one?
2. If you would consider making one for the .303 Challenger, please DM me.
3. My GX-CS1 is struggling with my 4000psi fills on the .33L tube is there a way to calculate how many shots I would get from a 3000psi bottle with a 2800psi output?
4. I was thinking barrel band with enough bottom Pic rail to mount a bi-pod and qdc sling....also DM me if you would be open to making that as part of my bespoke kit....
5. Looks like you sheared off your stock to accommodate the bottle. I have the tools to do that to my wood stock as long as that is just past the magic bottom stock bolt. Wood and steel lovers are cringing at this point...lol
Thanks in advance
hey Charles, as to the Avenger, I didn't make a drop block, it already had one since it had 2 Cylinders stock, all I did was make a straight adapter to fit the bottle to the gun on the lower cylinder port and a plug bolt for the upper cylinder port, as per shots per fill it all depends on the tuning and the .303 Challenger might be lucky to get 15 shots from a .33L bottle at 3000 of course that estimate is from my .30 cal Prophet ll which I get about 50 + shots from a .5L bottle at 4500
btw GX has rebuild kits for their compressors....https://gxpumpofficial.com/,
I would suggest contacting Firewalker, he's an accomplished Machinist where I'm just a Tinkerer who fights with his cheap Lathe and forgetful brain, yeah I have my Homer Simpson moments more than I would like, you would laugh at how many Rejects I did just to make this one simple part..... Doh... :o :o :o ;D let's just say the reject box is getting pretty full.... ;D
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Nice Job Kevin!, Now you might want to locate the center of the plenum and hole saw a properly sized hole in the bottom of the stock's reciever area and fit the Avenger with a bit larger power plenum, A bit heavier hammer and you'll be stylin out past 250 yrds. Looks sweet.
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Well, I finally got the stupid Lathe to work right, after not having the right gears for threading 1.25 pitch threads, I got the new gear set and still didn't have the right gears, so I decided to find the closest thread to 1.25 pitch, well turns out 20 pitch is almost exactly the same and I had the gears for that????? ???, so I also needed 1.50 pitch witch I had the gears for... ;) then the lead screw Bearing seized up... >:( >:( :-[ :'(, fortunately it wasn't bad, so I took it apart and cleaned it and lubed it with some good Moly grease, this is a Lathe that has hardly been used? ??? ??? ??? oh well, so I made my bottle adapter and a Plug/fill port that fit just right, tapped a fill port into the side of the plug which works out perfectly for airing up, I cut the stock to fit the bottle and I made a Barrel/ Bottle Band I designed on tinkercad, it's a prefect fit but I need longer M4 screws for the clamp between the barrel and the Bottle, I mounted a picatinny rail to the bottom of the Barrel band which I had M5 Screws and nut holes already in the design, sorry I am notorious for not documenting my entire built process, but here's a few pictures of it after the process.
Thanks
Kevin
Dear Kevin,
After my science project with the interior Huma regulator and then unregulated search for a SSS hammer on the .303 Challenger I am considering a 2800psi output bottle. I found a couple of bottle and regulator options on AliEx and of course Hajimoto makes a Gauntlet kit. I see you went with a 4500 PSI bottle and at your regulater pressure expect 150ish 875fps shots (fast enough to expand HPs).
Here are my questions;
1. I assume you made the drop-block on your lathe because there is not a source for one?
2. If you would consider making one for the .303 Challenger, please DM me.
3. My GX-CS1 is struggling with my 4000psi fills on the .33L tube is there a way to calculate how many shots I would get from a 3000psi bottle with a 2800psi output?
4. I was thinking barrel band with enough bottom Pic rail to mount a bi-pod and qdc sling....also DM me if you would be open to making that as part of my bespoke kit....
5. Looks like you sheared off your stock to accommodate the bottle. I have the tools to do that to my wood stock as long as that is just past the magic bottom stock bolt. Wood and steel lovers are cringing at this point...lol
Thanks in advance
hey Charles, as to the Avenger, I didn't make a drop block, it already had one since it had 2 Cylinders stock, all I did was make a straight adapter to fit the bottle to the gun on the lower cylinder port and a plug bolt for the upper cylinder port, as per shots per fill it all depends on the tuning and the .303 Challenger might be lucky to get 15 shots from a .33L bottle at 3000 of course that estimate is from my .30 cal Prophet ll which I get about 50 + shots from a .5L bottle at 4500
btw GX has rebuild kits for their compressors....https://gxpumpofficial.com/,
I would suggest contacting Firewalker, he's an accomplished Machinist where I'm just a Tinkerer who fights with his cheap Lathe and forgetful brain, yeah I have my Homer Simpson moments more than I would like, you would laugh at how many Rejects I did just to make this one simple part..... Doh... :o :o :o ;D let's just say the reject box is getting pretty full.... ;D
I will reach out to Firewalker. 15 shots is almost 2 mags and more than adequate for a days hunting. I will order a rebuild kit for my value-forward entry level buzzbox and study up on some Y-tube videos.
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Nice Job Kevin!, Now you might want to locate the center of the plenum and hole saw a properly sized hole in the bottom of the stock's reciever area and fit the Avenger with a bit larger power plenum, A bit heavier hammer and you'll be stylin out past 250 yrds. Looks sweet.
that sounds cool, but all my hunting is 20-60 yards, lots of trees here, no real long shots, But thanks for the Info, my friend might just need something like that, he hunts Ground Squirrels and Coyotes over in Ca, long shots on the GS's would be the ticket.
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Great job on the avenger Kevin.
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Great job on the avenger Kevin.
Thanks Chris, Backyard Tinkering is a lot of fun.... ;D
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I wonder if Buck Rail's tactical conversion would adapt to that with some modifying?
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I wonder if Buck Rail's tactical conversion would adapt to that with some modifying?
not sure, They have other kits for sale on Ebay, I just wanted to make my own, cheaper... almost... ;D
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Well done!
Thanks Dihn, you know these cheap Lathes are really terrible, you have to rebuild them every time you go to use them, they are very sloppy and trying to make them work is more work than you want.... ::) :-[, but I got it done.. ;)
I was a machinist for just shy of 40 yrs. One reasonably priced Engine Lathe I will vouch for is the "Jet Lathe". I believe Northern Hydraulic use to sell them. Rather than shelling out a whole lot of money on Digital readouts fit it with precision travel dials and save a good buck. There is other ways to do high precision work without digital equipt.
as well, Joe Blocks and Gage rods, Center height gages, etc
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Well done!
Thanks Dihn, you know these cheap Lathes are really terrible, you have to rebuild them every time you go to use them, they are very sloppy and trying to make them work is more work than you want.... ::) :-[, but I got it done.. ;)
I was a machinist for just shy of 40 yrs. One reasonably priced Engine Lathe I will vouch for is the "Jet Lathe". I believe Northern Hydraulic use to sell them. Rather than shelling out a whole lot of money on Digital readouts fit it with precision travel dials and save a good buck. There is other ways to do high precision work without digital equipt.
as well, Joe Blocks and Gage rods, Center height gages, etc
Jet lathes and other equipment are much nicer, but the prices reflect that, too much for my budget... I just have to put up with the cheap lathes and improve it as needed, I have some Dials for adjusting, I only have the Digital readout on my Mill, it was cheap in cost, I knew what I was getting when I bought the lathe, it's doing much better since I did some work on it, but it's still not dialed in to where I would like it to be.