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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: Ike the GSD on April 22, 2024, 09:16:38 PM
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My buddy brought over his chronograph today and I finally got a chance to find out how powerful my Marauder is. 21.14 gr Baracuda Power 860 FPS/34.7 FT LBS. Crosman 14.3 gr Hollow Points 946 FPS/28 FT LBS. To say the least I was astounded and very very happy👍😁
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Have .22 Gen 1 2009 Marauder Tuned w/21.1 gr. Baracuda Match 5,52 mm to 845 fps 33.5 flb for 30 Perfect POI Shot's, for bench-rest 25 targets 5 sighter's per Card. Tried to get 860 fps,that's where the Marauder Shoots the Best but it would't give My goal of 860 fps for 30 perfect Shot's per Card. I see where you Like 860 fps w/21gr Cudda's too. What Head Size are the Baracuda Power's You use Thank's Franky
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Have .22 Gen 1 2009 Marauder Tuned w/21.1 gr. Baracuda Match 5,52 mm to 845 fps 33.5 flb for 30 Perfect POI Shot's, for bench-rest 25 targets 5 sighter's per Card. Tried to get 860 fps,that's where the Marauder Shoots the Best but it would't give My goal of 860 fps for 30 perfect Shot's per Card. I see where you Like 860 fps w/21gr Cudda's too. What Head Size are the Baracuda Power's You use Thank's Franky
I just have the standard diameter Baracuda Power pellets 5.50 mm they don't do well in either of my springers, but this Marauder likes them. I haven't shot for groups yet but they knock over the small reset squirrel target every time at 25 yards and they penetrate an inch and a quarter into a 2x6 at 30 yards. I'm getting about 20 shots at full power before it noticeably drops off, by the time it gets to 1/4 green the baracuda's are down to 700 fps. I'm just impressed with the incredible amount of power this rifle is capable of🐻
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Nice!
I'm a huge Marauder fan!
I have a .25 Gen 2 SynRod.
It has a Termidator Industries Chassis with a JSAR Balance valve and TSS setup along with their lightweight Super Hammer.
On a 2600 psi fill it shoots JSB 33.95 MkII Heavies at 850 fps for 55 ft lbs.
Any varmint that would be dumb enough to get hit by one of those Mk II Heavies in the boiler room at a reasonable distance, is in for a bad day!
I get about 2 mags on a fill.
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Nice!
I'm a huge Marauder fan!
I have a .25 Gen 2 SynRod.
It has a Termidator Industries Chassis with a JSAR Balance valve and TSS setup along with their lightweight Super Hammer.
On a 2600 psi fill it shoots JSB 33.95 MkII Heavies at 850 fps for 55 ft lbs.
Any varmint that would be dumb enough to get hit by one of those Mk II Heavies in the boiler room at a reasonable distance, is in for a bad day!
I get about 2 mags on a fill.
Wow that's impressive, I went back and forth whether I wanted a .22 or a .25 and I went with the .22 mostly because of the pellet availability and all I hunt is small game, but there is no doubt the 25's hit like a freight train, I have an Invader in .25 cal and it's amazing the difference in impact on targets and it's got 17 ft lbs less energy than your Marauder. I think when Crosman started putting Turkish walnut stocks on the Marauders it transformed them aesthetically, the stock on my Marauder is so pretty I hate to use the rifle in the woods LOL! 😜👍
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The .25 Marauders are great guns all fixed up. Mine has a few different internals as listed in the notes and has a lightweight air tube. Some of my last shots were at two squirrels on back-to-back mornings at 75 yards. Both DRT with one shot using the JSB MKIIs. That was fun.
Here is the typical tune I run with it.
(https://i.ibb.co/0V2Yt86/Best-FPE-Tune.jpg)
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The thing about the marauders I’ve found is, the more you tinker on them and make them “your own” the more you like them.
I’ve done an unreasonable amount of work to mine, (1st gen 25 cal with the green mtn barrel) and once I got the bugs worked out I absolutely love it. My last mod in the mail is a side lever action to ditch my binding bolt. That things been giving me fits. Poor machine work on the original.
Actually I take that back, I have a teryx stock in the mail as well to make it hopefully lighter and add the Picatinny rail options.
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Then I’m done! Honest this time! If only because there isn’t anything left to upgrade.
It has a huma regulator, full matched hill internals lighter hammer etc, upgraded hammer spring, regulator is set for a 50-60 shot count at approximately 35 ft lb energy. If I remember correctly. It’ll just stack dime sized groups at 50 yards like it’s no big deal. I imagine it’d do much better if I took the time to actually sort pellets.
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Then I’m done! Honest this time! If only because there isn’t anything left to upgrade.
It has a huma regulator, full matched hill internals lighter hammer etc, upgraded hammer spring, regulator is set for a 50-60 shot count at approximately 35 ft lb energy. If I remember correctly. It’ll just stack dime sized groups at 50 yards like it’s no big deal. I imagine it’d do much better if I took the time to actually sort pellets.
Do you think I could accomplish that with my .22 Marauder 50-60 shots at 30 ft lbs would be excellent👍
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Then I’m done! Honest this time! If only because there isn’t anything left to upgrade.
It has a huma regulator, full matched hill internals lighter hammer etc, upgraded hammer spring, regulator is set for a 50-60 shot count at approximately 35 ft lb energy. If I remember correctly. It’ll just stack dime sized groups at 50 yards like it’s no big deal. I imagine it’d do much better if I took the time to actually sort pellets.
Do you think I could accomplish that with my .22 Marauder 50-60 shots at 30 ft lbs would be excellent
You certainly can or at least come very close to that. It just depends on the distance and how much ES you are willing to put up with. These are some recorded tunes I worked out when messing around with some mods on my '22 Marauder. This is an unregulated .22.
(https://i.ibb.co/GcKtmHD/22-Synrod-unregulated.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/bdn6zCF/SSG-11-02-zpsadutuopa.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/sKwvqtB/2nd-SSG-F-A-M-E-HF-Barrel-Test-01.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Nrhfxx4/SSG-FAME-FIFH-SUMMARY.jpg)
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Having gone crazy on this platform. I can honestly say it's a slippery slope lol. But once I was done crying about the money spent I really love those guns.
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Then I’m done! Honest this time! If only because there isn’t anything left to upgrade.
It has a huma regulator, full matched hill internals lighter hammer etc, upgraded hammer spring, regulator is set for a 50-60 shot count at approximately 35 ft lb energy. If I remember correctly. It’ll just stack dime sized groups at 50 yards like it’s no big deal. I imagine it’d do much better if I took the time to actually sort pellets.
Do you think I could accomplish that with my .22 Marauder 50-60 shots at 30 ft lbs would be excellent
I’m not the expert, but I think you’d be able to get close to that with an adjustable huma regulator and the right pellet/hammer/spring choice.
When I was deciding on a tune I contacted Tim Hill because I was looking at his matched parts kits. He was quite helpful getting me pointed in the right direction, and had helpful suggestions for regulator settings and what parts could get me there.
One thing I did was mark the regulator at two different set points for the two different tunes I planned on using) max shots 60, and “40 at 40” I just made some distinct scratches on the end corresponding with the regulator settings so I could use a long screwdriver to adjust it by just removing the fill cap (after degassing of course) this way you can pull the tube end and adjust it without pulling the regulator. Saving time and oring damage potential.
I’m sure there’s others who can do the same thing, but that’s the route I took. A lot of aftermarket parts we read about on the forums aren’t around for this platform anymore- unfortunately, he’s still got his site up and going and I’m happy to support that.
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Then I’m done! Honest this time! If only because there isn’t anything left to upgrade.
It has a huma regulator, full matched hill internals lighter hammer etc, upgraded hammer spring, regulator is set for a 50-60 shot count at approximately 35 ft lb energy. If I remember correctly. It’ll just stack dime sized groups at 50 yards like it’s no big deal. I imagine it’d do much better if I took the time to actually sort pellets.
Do you think I could accomplish that with my .22 Marauder 50-60 shots at 30 ft lbs would be excellent
I’m not the expert, but I think you’d be able to get close to that with an adjustable huma regulator and the right pellet/hammer/spring choice.
When I was deciding on a tune I contacted Tim Hill because I was looking at his matched parts kits. He was quite helpful getting me pointed in the right direction, and had helpful suggestions for regulator settings and what parts could get me there.
One thing I did was mark the regulator at two different set points for the two different tunes I planned on using) max shots 60, and “40 at 40” I just made some distinct scratches on the end corresponding with the regulator settings so I could use a long screwdriver to adjust it by just removing the fill cap (after degassing of course) this way you can pull the tube end and adjust it without pulling the regulator. Saving time and oring damage potential.
I’m sure there’s others who can do the same thing, but that’s the route I took. A lot of aftermarket parts we read about on the forums aren’t around for this platform anymore- unfortunately, he’s still got his site up and going and I’m happy to support that.
I just love this rifle, it's so accurate, I was impressed with the power it produced after I adjusted everything but you guys have taken this to the next level, the shot count paired with the power you're getting is amazing👍
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I believe the marauder platform was too quickly disregarded due to the leaps and bounds the airgun world has made in the last three maybe four years. I have read a lot on the forums about people wishing they had never sold theirs. I took that to heart when I built mine. I have a 22 right now that will push 25 gr pellets 925 fps for 40 shots. That's not bad on a 215 cc tube. I'm also happy Tim is still around. He is a straight shooter. There's still a small list of outfits carrying aftermarket parts. And they are all good.
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I believe the marauder platform was too quickly disregarded due to the leaps and bounds the airgun world has made in the last three maybe four years. I have read a lot on the forums about people wishing they had never sold theirs. I took that to heart when I built mine. I have a 22 right now that will push 25 gr pellets 925 fps for 40 shots. That's not bad on a 215 cc tube. I'm also happy Tim is still around. He is a straight shooter. There's still a small list of outfits carrying aftermarket parts. And they are all good.
👍👍👍
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The Marauder was the very first repeatable PCP air rifle with a magazine. Up until the last few years, it has been the main choice financially for many. It was the one I chose to get into the PCP game with after failures with the local store-bought models.
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The Marauder was the very first repeatable PCP air rifle with a magazine. Up until the last few years, it has been the main choice financially for many. It was the one I chose to get into the PCP game with after failures with the local store-bought models.
I'm more than satisfied with the quality and workmanship of my Marauder and I'd sit next to any FX owner and feel proud, this is a beautiful, accurrate, powerful air rifle and I'm so glad I bought it! The Turkish walnut stocks transformed these rifles aesthetically, but the platform itself is well engineered and reliable. Thanks for all of the replies fellas👍
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The Marauder was the very first repeatable PCP air rifle with a magazine. Up until the last few years, it has been the main choice financially for many. It was the one I chose to get into the PCP game with after failures with the local store-bought models.
I'm more than satisfied with the quality and workmanship of my Marauder and I'd sit next to any FX owner and feel proud, this is a beautiful, accurrate, powerful air rifle and I'm so glad I bought it! The Turkish walnut stocks transformed these rifles aesthetically, but the platform itself is well engineered and reliable. Thanks for all of the replies fellas
In 2017, at the GTA Fun shoot in Ohio, I beat out lots of FX and other high-end guns with my measly .22 Marauder with synthetic stock and took first place. It was my first competition, and I wasn't even going to enter the comp because I was scared and intimidated by all the expensive guns there. It was also very windy up on the bluff. I got talked into competing, and it was free to enter, so nothing to lose. I couldn't believe I won, but I knew my Marauder was fairly accurate because I had put a lot of time and effort into it in my backyard. I still have the trophy and I bought a lightweight air tube for it with the cash prize. It's still on the gun.
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The Marauder was the very first repeatable PCP air rifle with a magazine. Up until the last few years, it has been the main choice financially for many. It was the one I chose to get into the PCP game with after failures with the local store-bought models.
I'm more than satisfied with the quality and workmanship of my Marauder and I'd sit next to any FX owner and feel proud, this is a beautiful, accurrate, powerful air rifle and I'm so glad I bought it! The Turkish walnut stocks transformed these rifles aesthetically, but the platform itself is well engineered and reliable. Thanks for all of the replies fellas
In 2017, at the GTA Fun shoot in Ohio, I beat out lots of FX and other high-end guns with my measly .22 Marauder with synthetic stock and took first place. It was my first competition, and I wasn't even going to enter the comp because I was scared and intimidated by all the expensive guns there. It was also very windy up on the bluff. I got talked into competing, and it was free to enter, so nothing to lose. I couldn't believe I won, but I knew my Marauder was fairly accurate because I had put a lot of time and effort into it in my backyard. I still have the trophy and I bought a lightweight air tube for it with the cash prize. It's still on the gun.
That's just outstanding great job and Congrats👍👍👍
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That's awesome Keith. It's crazy how we can second guess our own rigs just because somebody spent twice as much on theirs.ive always appreciated all the help you gave me when I was still getting my mind wrapped around tuning Keith. I especially liked that you got the aluminum tube with the winnings. As for the marauder platform it is amazing yet simple. Mic drop,lol.
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Thanks, Wes and Chris! The GTA Fun shoots were good times for me. I got to meet a lot of awesome people on here and put a face with their names. Some of the highlights were being able to shoot With Lloyd Sikes and Travis (oldpro) among others.
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I believe the marauder platform was too quickly disregarded due to the leaps and bounds the airgun world has made in the last three maybe four years. I have read a lot on the forums about people wishing they had never sold theirs. I took that to heart when I built mine. I have a 22 right now that will push 25 gr pellets 925 fps for 40 shots. That's not bad on a 215 cc tube. I'm also happy Tim is still around. He is a straight shooter. There's still a small list of outfits carrying aftermarket parts. And they are all good.
I’d have to agree with this. If they just refined a bit more on the platform and kept the line progressing in accuracy, consistency etc they could have maintained more market share.
Right now I’ve been thinking about compiling upper parts to have a “swappable to .22 slug gun” without storing another rifle just a barrel, and breech assembly. Of course that gets into a polygon lothar walther barrel and the machine work etc.
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A sidelever breech would have boosted sales back up on the marauder. And I believe they would have sold a ton to guys like me to retrofit on the gen 2.
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A sidelever breech would have boosted sales back up on the marauder. And I believe they would have sold a ton to guys like me to retrofit on the gen 2.
This is probably the biggest thing that compelled me to move passed the Marauder and on to affordable guns with more features.
Sure, there are tons of aftermarket upgrades available but all of them come at a cost.
I picked up a .25 AV Avenger a few years back when they stormed out on the market and it quickly became my most shot gun. I get 48 regulated shots at 40 fpe per fill. The trigger and cocking actions are smooth predictable. The only thing I've done to the gun is clean the barrel, adjusted the reg and stuffed a tea towel in the stock to deaden the hollow sound.
It's shoots my cast pellets as well as any pellet on the market (that I have tried) and that is a huge plus to me. The gun weighed less than the Marauder and I didn't have to spend $150 on a light weight tube to make that happen. And it comes in at near half the price of a Marauder.
Parts? What parts? Perishables? Yeah, they are available if needed including poppet and reg kits. If you are breaking parts beyond that you might want to check the quality of the gun you chose.
And, at least in my case, my AV is just as accurate as my MRod was... YMMV.
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I cock my two Marauders with just three fingers. Thumb on the end cap and two fingers on the bolt. Very easy to cock. Stock would be even easier and practically effortless. That said a sidelever would be neat, I think. I kinda like the bolt action.
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Your absolutely right Bill in that many lower prices guns with more features than the m-rod entered the market and people bought them. The avenger sounds like a mighty fine gun at a great price.