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Airguns by Make and Model => Crosman Airguns => Topic started by: parkerd on November 16, 2011, 01:23:24 PM
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Hello guy's and gal's I have been looking at the Crosman Custom Shop, and have built a Carbine that I like alot but have have a few question's.... Here are the specs- Barrel--14.6 .22 Front sight--Silver Muzzle Scope--Already have one that will work so nothing there Trigger--Silver (not a big deal) Stock--Just a normal shoulder stock.. Will this setup be good enough to kill squirrels and a few birds?? But I don't know if a .22 at 600 FPS will be enough nock down power?
Thanks,Parker
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i would think so at a reasonable distance.
joe
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should be good, You can get an aftermarket vlave that will increase velocity, at the cost of shot count later on if you feel you need it. While that gun should take down squirrels, with good shot placement, you are not going to be hitting that 600 FPS numbers with out a new valve.
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A melon power adjuster will get you a few more FPS. Id think head shots at 20 yards should be no problem for it.
Dave
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Alright guys Thanks!!! Does anyone have one of these? Is it comfortable? I'm 6'1 so i prefer a longer gun...What's a "Melon Power Adjuster"?
Thanks,Parker
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Oh also for anyone who owns one what size of CO2 canisters do they use?
Thanks,Parker
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What's a "Melon Power Adjuster"?
http://MellonAir.com/index.php?p=1_8_Power-Ajusters (http://MellonAir.com/index.php?p=1_8_Power-Ajusters)
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there are several companies that sell power adjusters. Also you can just buy the gun at wal mart, and order all the parts you want or need. Instead of waiting for Crosman to finish your gun, you can do it yourself (not hard, I just did t last night), or have a custom airgun guy do it for you. you will have your guna bit fater that way, though it may cost a bit more.
Crooked barn Airguns
Mellon air
mountain air
Are just 3 off the top of my head.
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It will be just fine for tree rat kills at 20 yards or so if you need more power you can install a Boss valve.
Mike
http://www.bryanandac.com/default.htm (http://www.bryanandac.com/default.htm)
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I love mine. I have taken squirrels out to 30 yards on a very warm day. My son took a bunny with a head shot at about 25 yards in 65 or 70 degree weather. Mine is a basic .22 with the 14.6" barrel, shoulder stock and no modifications (well I did polish the trigger components and touch up the crown but that is it). It is a great little gun. It loves H$N FTT 5.54 head size. Do a little searching I think the pull length is around 13.75" if I remember which is a little longer than my Titan. The gun is very compact. If you are not going to put a tko on it the 18" barrel will give you a few extra FPS and it will still be a short gun. OAL is around 32" if I remember correctly.
Again I love my 2400KT, almost as much as my 7 year old son does. It is very versatile and can be massively modified. The only downside is that on CO2 it is temperature sensitive.
Here is my 30 yard nutter in 90+ ( I believe it was close to 100 that day) weather.
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll180/bradyman1/utf-8BSU1BRzAxOTguanBn.jpg)
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Thanks guys! @dpricenator I don't think I could do it by myself without a helping hand but my grandpa is real big into real guns he blues his own builds them from the ground up and i want to follow in his footsteps I'm good at shooting and sighting in and stuff but taking apart and putting back together ehh not so much.... How much faster would a gun go with a power adjuster??
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I love mine. I have taken squirrels out to 30 yards on a very warm day. My son took a bunny with a head shot at about 25 yards in 65 or 70 degree weather. Mine is a basic .22 with the 14.6" barrel, shoulder stock and no modifications (well I did polish the trigger components and touch up the crown but that is it). It is a great little gun. It loves H$N FTT 5.54 head size. Do a little searching I think the pull length is around 13.75" if I remember which is a little longer than my Titan. The gun is very compact. If you are not going to put a tko on it the 18" barrel will give you a few extra FPS and it will still be a short gun. OAL is around 32" if I remember correctly.
Again I love my 2400KT, almost as much as my 7 year old son does. It is very versatile and can be massively modified. The only downside is that on CO2 it is temperature sensitive.
Here is my 30 yard nutter in 90+ ( I believe it was close to 100 that day) weather.
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll180/bradyman1/utf-8BSU1BRzAxOTguanBn.jpg)
I live in FL and possibly moving to S FL and it's usally above 65* F everyday....
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Thanks guys! @dpricenator I don't think I could do it by myself without a helping hand but my grandpa is real big into real guns he blues his own builds them from the ground up and i want to follow in his footsteps I'm good at shooting and sighting in and stuff but taking apart and putting back together ehh not so much.... How much faster would a gun go with a power adjuster??
unless you are missing a hand or several fingers, and I hope you are not, becaue then I look like a real ^&*, you can do everything I did last night, with no issues. I replaced the barrel, valve, breech, bolt, trigger spring, and addd a trigger shoe. Took me a couple hours, but I had dinner in the middle, and put 3 kids to bed as weel. And I was drinking. So Yeah I think you can handle this no problem, and if you run into issues...we are here to help.
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As dpricenator said nodding this platform is very easy. Many of the mods are bolt on (just remove a few screws and replace 1 part with another). I would highly suggest purchasing a custom shop gun over a base pistol and the extras seperately. With the custom shop you start off with a steel breach, which is a necessity for scoping it, and a slightly better trigger set up. The custom shop built how you want it is less expensive run building up a stock pistol anyway. You can always add valves and other goodies to your custom shop to make it more powerful, or quieter etc. after you get it and figure hot what you need.
I get about 30 powerful shots per cart. My gun is 30.5" long, lenght of pull is 16" from trigger to gun butt.
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Thanks Guys!!! dpricenator you didn't come across as that to me! LMBO I'm still tring to decide but when I make my decision I will let ya'll know and ask ALOT more questions!! This is probably my last question for this carbine is it comfortable?? Ahhh one more question is a 14.6 barrel long enough?
Thanks,Parker
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It is comfortable. The cheek weld is a bit low, but there are cheap clamp on cheek pieces or you could add a piece of pipe foam Luke I did in the pic. That made it much more comfy for me. The 14.6 makes it a nice short carbine. The 18" will give you a few more fps. If I had it to do over, I would stick with the 14.6". It's nice and compact with that barrel.
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Alright that was quick!!! Is there 11mm dovetails on it to attach a scope?
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the carbines come with a steel breech with dove tails.
joe
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Thanks!!! Man this Forum is off tha hook!!
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The CS 2400KT is just a Cr2250 ( no longer available) with a choice of options. an all around good carbine capable of taking squirrel at 20-25 yards. when I purchased mine,
( about 100 bucks shipped, bone stock) only I went with a 18" 22 cal barrel as I have a Cr2250 with a 14" barrel. a little extra barrel will give ya a little more fps.
No front sight, but you'll still get the plastic slip on if you dint choose any. It does come with a steel breech , which is a upgrade from the Cr22xx guns, with 11mm/3/8" rails to mount a scope. I planned to use a scope with mine , so no need for the extra $$$ for a front sight.
There are many options when ordering from crosman, but there are also many after market products as well.
Order a TKO, helps with the bark for back yard shooting.
as said here, the temp effects the gun , but any C02 gun is affected as well.
The stock doesn't fit every one, me included, so I cut mine down to fit me. my 2250 I added a XE stock, which was purchased used , but a perfect fit for me.
order one and enjoy it, mod it.to your liking.
pics of my Cr2400KT and my Cr2250B
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My 2250 when stock on co2 would take down grackles and squirrels out to about 20 yds with ease. I convertaed mine to pcp and now its kicking out 14.66 gr pellets at twice the fpe. I ised a hipax conversion, awesome kit! They are super easy to work on. The ball and spring for the trigger safety is the most challanging part just because they are tiny and i didnt see where they fell out of. The guys here will walk you through anything you can run into which isnt much with these guns.
Good luck bro keep is posted!
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Alright that was quick!!! Is there 11mm dovetails on it to attach a scope?
Yes the custom shop has the steel breech with 11mm dovetails.
The stock pistol that you can buy at the retailers has a plastic breech with no provisions for scope mounting.
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They run on regular CO2 Carts, and also i dont think it comes withb a rear sight, so be prepared.
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They run on regular CO2 Carts, and also i dont think it comes withb a rear sight, so be prepared.
I know for use the Crosman steel breech you buy seperatly does not have any way to secure the stock rear sight. This was one of the main beneifts to ordering the Crooked Bard version of the breech. I'm not sure if the custom shop version has a rear sight or not. But the Custom Shop offers the MIM rear sight. or the williams, that will fir on the dovetails.
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Yep but i got a scope so, no worries of that.
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The guns will go 550 FPS in stock form and with a Power prep 600 is no problem at all making it a 10 fpe plus gun. They can be really accurate guns and there are lots of dodads you can add.
My most popular CO2 gun is the LD Light. That is a 2240 with 14", Gen II Brake, Power Prep accuracy prep 14" .22 and the Steel Breech. It is $160 t do this work to a Customers gun and $220 to buy the gun outright.
To have a gun tuned that already has the Steel breech and long barrel it costs $110. $50 for Acc & Power tunes and $60 for Gen II Brake.
With the extended Bolt Probe and sweet trigger you are good out to 35-40 yards if you can do your part.
MOST IMPORTANT ON ALL DAN AND CROSMAN CO2 GUNS!
Do not overtioghten cap. YOU ARE NOT PIERCING CO2. The first shot pierces the CO2 and if you crank the cap man tight you will lose all sorts of power and shorten the lifespan of the face seal dramatically.
If a 6 year old girl can get it tight enuf you can imagine how overtight you can get it.
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It is comfortable. The cheek weld is a bit low, but there are cheap clamp on cheek pieces or you could add a piece of pipe foam Luke I did in the pic. That made it much more comfy for me. The 14.6 makes it a nice short carbine. The 18" will give you a few more fps. If I had it to do over, I would stick with the 14.6". It's nice and compact with that barrel.
Bradyman: Other than the trigger-shoe option, I have never been able to figure out what (if anything) Cros custom shop does to the 22XX triggers? Do they actually get into the trigger assembly and do work?
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should do the job if you keep shots at a decent range. I love my 2240 carbine, pretty much all i shoot now. the valve was modded from the guy i ordered from as well as poly modded. added a hi pac to it and shoot it at 2400 psi. guns awsome!!!! so many mods that can be done to them. im still not done modding it yet
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SSScream: The 2240 never ends! $$$$$$
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SSScream: The 2240 never ends! $$$$$$
Yep, I've already droped $150 into a $50 gun, and have yet to buy the Brake $44, Power adjuster$8, custom Steel knob up front $25, new bolt handle $10, stock $30, Scope and mount $60. So you can easly make a $400 gun out a 2240. I would have almost been to a Sumatra .25
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It is comfortable. The cheek weld is a bit low, but there are cheap clamp on cheek pieces or you could add a piece of pipe foam Luke I did in the pic. That made it much more comfy for me. The 14.6 makes it a nice short carbine. The 18" will give you a few more fps. If I had it to do over, I would stick with the 14.6". It's nice and compact with that barrel.
Bradyman: Other than the trigger-shoe option, I have never been able to figure out what (if anything) Cros custom shop does to the 22XX triggers? Do they actually get into the trigger assembly and do work?
Yes. They put an over travel screw on the trigger frame, an adjustable spring guide, and I think the spring is also a little lighter. I have a 1377 ( it had the same trigger frame) and the 2400 has a smoother, lighter trigger. My 2400kt is my most accurate gun.
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SSScream: The 2240 never ends! $$$$$$
i stopped counting how much i have in it. alot of parts i bought i dont even use since i switched it to HPI. Still have about $200 im going to put into it. going to bulk fill it and going to order a leapers bug buster 3-9 (its barrowing the m rods scope right now) :) cant wait to get those parts ordered and play around some more. im sure ill add more after that though. to many cools things you can do with these guns