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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => Projectiles => Boolit and Pellet Casting => Topic started by: singleshotcajun on July 15, 2022, 08:31:03 PM
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I cast my own projectiles for 30-30,45/70 and.600” for my Snider rifle. I have never been able to .22 air rifle molds in stock . I ordered a JTS air rifle in .25 and hoped like in the past I could find a mold for .25 pellets and slugs but now that I am searching I find none. Well , as of today my JTS .25 won’t get to me by at least October , that’s more time to source a mold. Can anyone help me find a .25 cal 30 to 32 grain pellet or slug mold ? Thanks.
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I cast my own projectiles for 30-30,45/70 and.600” for my Snider rifle. I have never been able to .22 air rifle molds in stock . I ordered a JTS air rifle in .25 and hoped like in the past I could find a mold for .25 pellets and slugs but now that I am searching I find none. Well , as of today my JTS .25 won’t get to me by at least October , that’s more time to source a mold. Can anyone help me find a .25 cal 30 to 32 grain pellet or slug mold ? Thanks.
I'm really enjoying my 27 grain NOE hunter. I have found that I have to run my pot around 800 degrees to get consistent results though. I know it's frustrating but it should be back in stock before your rifle arrives.
https://noebulletmolds.com/site/shop/bullet-moulds/251/250-27-rf-cc3-hunter-pellet/250-27-rf-cc3-4-cavity-hb-hunter-pellet/
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press or casting?
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press or casting?
Casting, After I retire I may explore swagging. I am a Machinist/Millwright by trade and have been since 1985. No lathe or mill in my little Gunsmithing shack outback yet but soon before I retire hopefully. Will give a go making my own tooling then.
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press or casting?
Casting, After I retire I may explore swagging. I am a Machinist/Millwright by trade and have been since 1985. No lathe or mill in my little Gunsmithing shack outback yet but soon before I retire hopefully. Will give a go making my own tooling then.
I'd love to try swaging but the dies are too expensive for my limited needs.
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Stephen@AVS slugs started out in .22 cal with the Nova Liberty with great success but yes it's initially very expensive and that's why I've always cast.
Yesterday morning I was using my Challenger 22 cal shooting my cast NOE 218-25-RF slugs and got a chipmunk headshot at 35yads, the slugs out
of this gun shoot very accurate and flat, from 30 to 50 yards I zero the cross hairs on what I want to shoot.
(https://i.imgur.com/sX8fCK6.png)
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press or casting?
Casting, After I retire I may explore swagging. I am a Machinist/Millwright by trade and have been since 1985. No lathe or mill in my little Gunsmithing shack outback yet but soon before I retire hopefully. Will give a go making my own tooling then.
I'd love to try swaging but the dies are too expensive for my limited needs.
Same here Eddie! Yesterday I only shot the gun twice, once on that chipmunk and one to empty the chamber when I left.
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I am fortunate in that everything I cast works as cast for my needs using Lee molds . 30-30, 45/70 Lee molds work extemely well for my rifles. It seems the airgun game with casting is a little more "alchemy" . Looking hard at NOE molds.
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I am fortunate in that everything I cast works as cast for my needs using Lee molds . 30-30, 45/70 Lee molds work extemely well for my rifles. It seems the airgun game with casting is a little more "alchemy" . Looking hard at NOE molds.
I own quite a few Lee molds myself, but NOE is the main player for airguns. Al is very open and receptive to our wants and needs in this community. Keep an eye open here on GTA and you should find out when air rifle molds are back in stock there.
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If you are going to cast pellets I'd recommend watching Wayne's video of pressure casting. IMHO it makes casting pellets much more forgiving as far as lead and mold temperatures. It's what got me able to cast pellets almost right from the start. Slugs are in my opinion much easier to cast than pellets so your experience casting slugs might not help as much as you might think.
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Did a search , do you have a link. I do not have a bottom pour pot, just a big Lyman pot . Do I need a bottom pour pot to pressure pour ?
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Go to boolit and pellet casting child board. It's the first pinned thread.
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you can pressure pour with the Lyman ladles...That is the video Madd Hatter is talking about... looks like he beat me to posting it's location...
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Ok,that’s exactly how I do everything even .600” round balls for my Snider Enfield. Cool.
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Stephen@AVS slugs started out in .22 cal with the Nova Liberty with great success but yes it's initially very expensive and that's why I've always cast.
Yesterday morning I was using my Challenger 22 cal shooting my cast NOE 218-25-RF slugs and got a chipmunk headshot at 35yads, the slugs out
of this gun shoot very accurate and flat, from 30 to 50 yards I zero the cross hairs on what I want to shoot.
upfront cost is not more than casting unless you want a corbin press i suppose
most anyone with a lathe can do slug moulds for you, SS or common steel doesn´t matter, just oil it with wd40 when not using for some time
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Moved this to Bullit & Pellet Casting gate.
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Stephen@AVS slugs started out in .22 cal with the Nova Liberty with great success but yes it's initially very expensive and that's why I've always cast.
Yesterday morning I was using my Challenger 22 cal shooting my cast NOE 218-25-RF slugs and got a chipmunk headshot at 35yads, the slugs out
of this gun shoot very accurate and flat, from 30 to 50 yards I zero the cross hairs on what I want to shoot.
upfront cost is not more than casting unless you want a corbin press i suppose
most anyone with a lathe can do slug moulds for you, SS or common steel doesn´t matter, just oil it with wd40 when not using for some time
What kind of press do you need? Could I repurpose a hydraulic jack or something?
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DJ I've brainstormed before seriously contemplating on whether or not I wanted to swage slugs/pellets and came to the conclusion that one of the arbor's from Harbor freight would probably work good to swage. I pretty much abandoned the idea for swaging because pellet dies probably wouldn't really work nearly as easy as simple casting. If I was going to go commercial I would probably opt to swage but for me it's just not worth it.
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Stephen@AVS slugs started out in .22 cal with the Nova Liberty with great success but yes it's initially very expensive and that's why I've always cast.
Yesterday morning I was using my Challenger 22 cal shooting my cast NOE 218-25-RF slugs and got a chipmunk headshot at 35yads, the slugs out
of this gun shoot very accurate and flat, from 30 to 50 yards I zero the cross hairs on what I want to shoot.
upfront cost is not more than casting unless you want a corbin press i suppose
most anyone with a lathe can do slug moulds for you, SS or common steel doesn´t matter, just oil it with wd40 when not using for some time
What kind of press do you need? Could I repurpose a hydraulic jack or something?
i've seen ppl using a hydraulic jack, the easiest would be this $5 repurposed car's drive box https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ7mAkmRXyg
or a harbor press which i use at almost the same leverage as the one above, maybe a bit more force
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Those look like they'd be really nice slugs for sure, doing it that way is dirtier than casting by the looks of it, I'd be wearing surgical gloves doing that. I weigh everything
that I cast because a drastic weight change immediately needs inspection. Even casting my cup points you'll usually see that the cup isn't deep enough if anything. The
biggest plus to those slugs he's casting is the great hollowed base which is perfect for airguns.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/284868149846?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=s2hM5SAwRze&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=uxbUA3xDRkm&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY (https://www.ebay.com/itm/284868149846?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=s2hM5SAwRze&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=uxbUA3xDRkm&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY)
A lot cheaper than a Corbin.
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That looks like a good deal on that Swag-o-matic for sure.
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I just saw on Airgun Gear Show, RMAC edition, that air Force Airguns is releasing a slug swaging kit, sounds it will be in the $1500 range .177 - 35 cal..
https://youtu.be/66hrWgbsWcA?t=8622
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This has me thinking all one would need is a die and a good press . I see no reason my RCBS Rockchucker would not work.
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https://youtu.be/iRfl7RnMwso
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Those look like they'd be really nice slugs for sure, doing it that way is dirtier than casting by the looks of it, I'd be wearing surgical gloves doing that. I weigh everything
that I cast because a drastic weight change immediately needs inspection. Even casting my cup points you'll usually see that the cup isn't deep enough if anything. The
biggest plus to those slugs he's casting is the great hollowed base which is perfect for airguns.
yeah i got a pack of black nitrile gloves, also he was not pre-lubing the lead pieces which i think is the best way to go
he mentions the dish base and pellet base which looks like this http://corbins.com/images/airgun-2.jpg (http://corbins.com/images/airgun-2.jpg)
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Stephen@AVS slugs started out in .22 cal with the Nova Liberty with great success but yes it's initially very expensive and that's why I've always cast.
Yesterday morning I was using my Challenger 22 cal shooting my cast NOE 218-25-RF slugs and got a chipmunk headshot at 35yads, the slugs out
of this gun shoot very accurate and flat, from 30 to 50 yards I zero the cross hairs on what I want to shoot.
upfront cost is not more than casting unless you want a corbin press i suppose
most anyone with a lathe can do slug moulds for you, SS or common steel doesn´t matter, just oil it with wd40 when not using for some time
What kind of press do you need? Could I repurpose a hydraulic jack or something?
i've seen ppl using a hydraulic jack, the easiest would be this $5 repurposed car's drive box https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ7mAkmRXyg
or a harbor press which i use at almost the same leverage as the one above, maybe a bit more force
I would be interested in that die. Corbin makes it sound like a single stroke HP and cup base slug is impossible. Looks like the perfect weight for my eagle claw, and I have sizing dies so the swaged slugs don't even have to be perfect in diameter. I can knurl and size after swaging to get the perfect slug. A press is pretty easy to figure out if you don't even need a hydro press.
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https://youtu.be/iRfl7RnMwso
Googled the website and prices for the kit. Too rich for me My Rockchucker stays in my workshop for reforming brass and My Lee Classic lives inside for seating bullets inside climate control.