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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: thumbs on April 01, 2022, 04:08:14 PM
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Last time out I had a problem with an unintended discharge. Not a negligent discharge. I was just shooting targets when all of a sudden when I cocked the rifle and moved the bolt forward the rifle went off. I was in a safe area and had the muzzle in a safe direction so I tried it again thinking I did something wrong. It did it again so I packed up. I decided to try to figure what was goin on and to get some info to tell you guys.
Ok filled the rifle up and loaded a mag. I cocked the rifle and it was fine. Shot it when I wanted no problem. I did this three or four time with out a problem. After about the fourth time when I cocked the rifle and started to move the bolt forward the trigger fired. No projectile was launched just the trigger fired as the bolt went forward. I removed the pellet from the breach and tried it a couple more times. Same thing. It feels like the sear isnt getting enough bite to hold the trigger from firing. I tried it a couple more times what the same results each time..
Ok what are our thoughts as th to problem and the repair. I have not taken the rifle apart to even look at it. Is this a normal thing that happens after a lot of use? Do I just replace the trigger? Of course I have to take it apart to really see but has anyone else had this problem and what was the cause?
thanks
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Does it have the standard trigger unit? Sounds like the safety spring is getting weak and not locking the sear up tight. They usually won't even cock if the safety is out of the housing.
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Does it have the standard trigger unit? Sounds like the safety spring is getting weak and not locking the sear up tight. They usually won't even cock if the safety is out of the housing.
Yes the trigger is bone stock. Is there a way to test the safety and or repair it?
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Remove the safety by slipping a small Allen key or flat blade in the slot behind the trigger and pull the safety spring forward til the safety will pop out. Take the stock lug screw out. Pull the action out of the stock. Open up the trigger housing slowly. Now you can access the trigger guts. I would take that safety srlpring out and give it a little more bend to tension it up and put it all back together and test a few times til you know it's right. If it's broken or something you will need to get a new one from crosman. Only other thing I can think it is the sear is broken.
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Yeah, I hope thats it. I really dont want to put much in it. I put way to much in it when I got it. It was a fun project but not as they say a tack driver. I'll take a look at it in a day or so. Tied up for a while. Would like to get her up and shooting though.
Just remembered something. I tried something when testing. I cocked the bolt and held it back then put the safety on, closed the bolt and it was fine. I could then fire the shot as normal. I did that a couple of times. Cant remember if it held every time or not. May have to try that one again. Maybe it is the safety.
Nope went off with or without the safety on. I do hear and feel a clicking as I pull the trigger though about half way through the pull.
No air is expelled when I pull the trigger though.
Stay tuned. LOL
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you say your Disco has a clip? wonder if any other mods done. 2 & 3 screw trigger mods are common & easy to do.
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Ha a lot of mods when I got her. Could have bought a Marauder for the same price. It was fun though. Let me see if I remember.
Multi shot receiver. Uses Marauder magazines.
Valve mods cant remember exactly what.
Shrouded barrel. Quiet as a mouse
Brass hammer spring adjuster.
Didn't touch the trigger. Not great but its ok. Or at least was.
I bought her new a few years ago. Maybe 2015 wish ?? I was on my way to hunt prairie dogs when there was serious talk of a ban on shooting in the prairie beached of fires so I picked up the Disco knowing next to nothing about PCP stuff. Turned into kind of a project gun. If I didn't have so much money and time in it I would probably just let her sleep in the corner somewhere. Bugs me it isn't right so I gotta try to get her back. LOL
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It'll be an easy fix and cheap for the parts. That spring is probably 2 bucks from crosman, sear maybe 6 bucks. If that's it. I'm betting on the spring has just lost some tension and can just be bent a little on one end to get it back to locking up. Basically that spring rides on the back of the safety crossbar to tension it, and the other end rests under the sear. If the safety button isn't in the housing it won't latch the sear under the hammer. I doubt the sear tooth has worn down enough to not lock up, doubt it's broken either. I have heard of them breaking but only when they've been used with an Mrod trigger not spaced correctly.
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Here is a good picture and diagram of the trigger assembly
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Thanks I appreciate the help again. I guess I may have to put those things on the back burner and look at the Disco tomorrow. LOL
Things that aren't right bug me especially this stuff. Do you see any reason I have to degas to do this. I would think not. I have a degassing tool around here somewhere but it got away from me. Not sure exactly where it is. It may be an easy find but probably not.
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Here is a good picture and diagram of the trigger assembly
When you're in there, you should add the 2 or 3 screw mod. Those little bosses on the back of the housing are actually meant for the screws. 2 4-40 set screws about 1/2" long will thread right in those holes. You can add another screw to the front of the housing under the cantilever. Just drill a small hole in the center of the housing in front of the trigger guard and it will let you adjust the sear engagement. The other 2 screws control over travel. Will make it feel like a 2 stage trigger if set right. Also, add a ball point pen spring in the trigger and toss the stock trigger spring. You will get alot better accuracy this way. Doesn't cost buy a buck or so for those screws and a few minutes of your time.
There is a write up on her from RSterne describing it in full detail with pics. If the search button doesn't bring it up, Google it and it'll pop up under discovery 3 screw mod.
Good luck, hope you get it fixed! The disco is still one of my favorite guns to shoot!
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Here is a good picture and diagram of the trigger assembly
Thanks for the picture. Never got into the trigger so not a clue how they had it setup. It feels like something is clicking over something in there. Could be as simple as a loose trigger housing screw allowing parts to skip past each other rather than working properly. Hope I can get it workin.
I like it also. The think I dont like is the shroud being so long. She's a pretty long rifle now. Quiet as a mouse fart but long. Haven't measured her but maybe 46 47". The shrouded barrel added about 6" to her. Didn't really like that much. The receiver is smooth as glass.
Oh what the heck. May as well if Im in there. LOL Story of my live. LOL Never ends. Ha.
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Nope, don't have to degass. Just make sure it's not cooked which obviously it doesn't do right now lol. Remove the 8-32 trigger frame screw and stock lug and the whole assembly pops off. Then remove the 3 side plate screws and you're inside.
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I'm thinking you have a worn out sear which is a cheap and east fix. The Discovery is a good gun, I have shot the heck out of mine with very little problems.
Let us know what you figure out!
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Ha now I'm gettin into it. LOL I haven't been in there since I did the mods shortly after I got her. I know there is a trick to the safety trigger removal. That thing you were talking about earlier. My bench is a total disaster. Gotta get some room on it to work. May take half a day. Oh well its gotta be done anyway this just speeds the process a bit. It I see anything in the trigger area I'll take a picture and post it. May as well do soup to nuts while I'm here.
Hey while I have a couple of Disco guys here let me ask ya a general question or two. I have a ton of .22 Corsmen 14.?? domed.whatever they ares. I would like to use them. I have boxes of them. Anyway what velocities are you guys shooting and what is your shot count?
Oh yea another mod. A brass hammer spring adjuster. LOL I looked you signature. Always wanted to learn 3D printing. I was hoping to find a class locally like at the high school. Nothing big deal just to make some simple parts for other hobbies. Yeah other than a slow pressure leak I this is the first problem I have had.
Do you mean a worn out sear? Could be something is wrong for sure.
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Hey while I have a couple of Disco guys here let me ask ya a general question or two. I have a ton of .22 Corsmen 14.?? domed.whatever they ares. I would like to use them. I have boxes of them. Anyway what velocities are you guys shooting and what is your shot count?
I shoot 14.3 CPHP's. I get 16 shots from 885-915 but my gun is a bit wonky (I had it modified to a .30 caliber at one point) and probably wastes some air.
I looked you signature. Always wanted to learn 3D printing. I was hoping to find a class locally like at the high school. Nothing big deal just to make some simple parts for other hobbies.
I do machining, CAD and 3D printing work. Send me a message if you ever need anything. I started doing it for a living at the start of this year and it has been a rewarding and challenging experience so far. Thankfully I have a lot of hobbies with online presence and I've made a lot of friends that have supported me.
Do you mean a worn out sear? Could be something is wrong for sure.
Yes, fat fingers. I edited it. ;D
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Ha yeah I went back to read it again and it was changed. Another hobby is RC aircraft. Nothin special just scratch built foam planes electric powered. There are times I wish I had a small 3D printer. Example motor mounts camera mounts stuff like that. Anyway dont want to steal my own thread. LOL
Anyway according to my notes I think I was getting about 20 shots per fill with the 14.3 domes. Don't know the FPS though. So 20 to 25 shots is kinda "normal"??
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Standard disco on a 2000 psi fill will get 20 shots in its curve around 21-22 fpe with those 14.3s
Mine is tuned 3200 psi with heavy hammer spring, adjustable hammer, and a 16 inch barrel with an 8 Baffle shroud. Gets 28 fpe with 18.21 grain baracuda hunter pellets for 22 shots down to 2000 psi. With the 24" barrel it was close to 40 fpe but I didn't like the long look with a TKO hanging off the front, and it didn't quiet it down enough.
Here's a pic
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Sorry here is the pic lol
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Again just picked here up after quite a while so nothing is written in stone. I looked at a target the other day and she as shooting JSB 18.13's at about an inch at 50 yards. Is that about ball park?
Another project is my chrony. The printer went out this afternoon. Hopefully its the batteries. Always somethin
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Sorry here is the pic lol
Also has a marauder trigger on it, which is a huge improvement if you're interested. Like $50 bucks from crosman and a little shimming to get it to function right, or add a Prod hammer or Magnum Air Power hammer, and get a challenger trigger guard or make one like I did. Night and day different.
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Again just picked here up after quite a while so nothing is written in stone. I looked at a target the other day and she as shooting JSB 18.13's at about an inch at 50 yards. Is that about ball park?
Yeah, that's not too shabby. I don't stretch mine past 30-40 or so, it opens up a little lol. If it was a choked barrel and more power, it would probably group tighter out to 50+.
They make great off hand pesting guns or small game rifles. I've killed more stuff with my discos than any other gun in my arsenal including firearms.
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Maybe try some slugs. LOL I have some Nielsen slugs common in a couple of days. Lite ones 22.2gr I think. No choke may work fine. Worth a try.
Yeah I have a little problem this spring with some pests. Been trying to scare them with my bb guns but they my have to be felt with. The Disco would be my choice. Tuned down a bit.
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Maybe try some slugs. LOL I have some Nielsen slugs common in a couple of days. Lite ones 22.2gr I think. No choke may work fine. Worth a try.
Dunno, I've seen some vids of a disco using slugs and it wasn't very promising lol. Looked worse than buckshot at 100 yards and the guy was shooting at like 30 I think. Slugs need power. I have some 20.6 grain I can try.
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Yeah dont want to waste then just give em a try. Like you say the Disco is a close in guy. I go the slugs for the Avenger and Flashpup for a hunt this spring in SD for Prairie Dogs. Just something different than the powder berners all the time. More of a stalking kinda hunt.
Just googled the 3 screw mod. I had no idea. maybe I will try that one once i get this fixed. One crisis at a time
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There are endless mods you can do to the Disco. Here is mine. 8)
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Pellethuntr, was your disco a side xocking hammer at one point? I noticed the slot on the right side.
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Here mine just finishing it up … years collecting 2nd hand Cothran parts & pieces … sleeved up an old .20 cal brass barrel to 7/16 x 19-1/2” … 2 screw trigger mod. Stock internals & just thinking I should upgrade the valve screws to magnum power screws … just in case
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Here mine just finishing it up … years collecting 2nd hand Cothran parts & pieces … sleeved up an old .20 cal brass barrel to 7/16 x 19-1/2” … 2 screw trigger mod. Stock internals & just thinking I should upgrade the valve screws to magnum power screws … just in case
Thats the sexiest synthetic stocked disco I think I've seen! .20 cal is definitely unique, and cothran parts are top notch. Those magnum air power valve screws are my go to on any disco/22xx pcp build. I've had them up to 4000 psi before and never a problem. His valves are no joke either.
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Pellethuntr, was your disco a side xocking hammer at one point? I noticed the slot on the right side.
Yes, many years ago when I was more of a hack then a machinist! It had to have a separate knob for the hammer because you would break the bolt handle trying to compress the spring I had in there when running a .30 barrel. That was a mostly failed project and my poor Disco has a lot of scars from it.
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Pellethuntr, was your disco a side xocking hammer at one point? I noticed the slot on the right side.
Yes, many years ago when I was more of a hack then a machinist! It had to have a separate knob for the hammer because you would break the bolt handle trying to compress the spring I had in there when running a .30 barrel. That was a mostly failed project and my poor Disco has a lot of scars from it.
I figured it was from the 30 cal build, you probably had a huge spring in there for that!
My disco cranked down with the .045 spring feels like I'm going to snap the handle sometimes.
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Ok opened er up to take a look. Everything looks great. The only thing I can find is a little wear on this bar. Is it called the transfer bar? Anyway is this enough to not allow for a good lockup on the hammer? I gave the hammer a quick check and it looks ok. If the transfer bar needs to be replaces should the hammer be replaced also? That is assuming the bar has enough ware on it to cause the problem. Idono
Also if they do need to be replaced should I go to Crosman or is there a better place? How long does it normally take from Crosman?
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Can you get a side profile pic of it? It just looks shiny from use in those pics. It doesn't look sheared off.
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Yep hold on. There may be a little ware but idono. I take a couple more picts now
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If it isn't broken off, I would put it back together but give that big spring that goes down to the safety and up under the sear, give it a little bend up on the part that goes to the sear. Itll put more tension on the sear to help it lock into the hammer.
Crosman parts would be super cheap that spring and sear would probably be 10 bucks with their $4 shipping. Take about 2 days to get to you since they're in NY state.
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Nothing is broken. Other than a little wear where the bar contacts the hammer everything looks good.
Just read you post. Yes I can try that. Is it a bad idea to dress the front edge that holds the hammer back just to make it more 90*.
Sorry for all the picts but I only have an iPhone. I figure maybe one or two will give ya what you need.
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That looks like normal wear to me. You can pinkish it up if you want, itll make it smoother on release. Don't take off too much material though. I think the spring truck will fix it for you, they do weaken a little over time.
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Ok good deal. I'll give it a try after dinner and let ya know. I'll just bend the spring a bit. Thanks
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I like Magnum Air Power's hardened stainless sears.
Have them on 3 guns.
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Ok good deal. I'll give it a try after dinner and let ya know. I'll just bend the spring a bit. Thanks
Yeah, bend that sear end up about an 1/8" maybe a hair more and try it. Worst that will happen if you go to far is sear drag which will cause a drop in velocity but you'd have to bend it like a half inch up lol
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I like Magnum Air Power's hardened stainless sears.
Have them on 3 guns.
Those are nice, so are the right size stainless sears that David over at AlchemyAir sells
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I even use them on my Blue Fork trigger assemblies; I have 2:
(https://i.imgur.com/8WUJEy2.jpg?1)
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I even use them on my Blue Fork trigger assemblies; I have 2:
(https://i.imgur.com/8WUJEy2.jpg?1)
Are these still in production? Haven't seen those in ages
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I bought them from HPA Sports, as the maker is not really trustworthy.
They were, at one time, black, but I had them nickel boron plated by CCR:
https://www.ccrrefinishing.com/ (https://www.ccrrefinishing.com/)
I think the maker still makes them every now and then.
The markings on the new batch are ugly though and looks like they were manually punched, yuck!
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Ok here is what I did. I bent the spring for a little more tension and dressed up the top and front of the sear. Seems to work fine but I dont trust it as of yet. Fired about 20 rounds over the chrony at about 860fps. So far so good.
Now where do I get another spring and sear? Tried looking on Crosman but cant find the link. I know that sounds dumb but for some reason cant find the link for parts. I wanted to get them from Crosman, I would rather put new parts in it. I may shoot it this way for a while. I think I'm looking for the spring and bar. Sorry not sure of the name of that thing.
Now the screws for the cover really a bit loose. Yes I was very careful not to strip them but they hardly even snug the screws. What do you guys do to get the screws a little tighter? I was thinking a bit of cotton in the hold and screw in on that.
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try this link & search discovery
https://support.crosman.com/hc/en-us
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Here is the EVP
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I believe you gotta call the parts department still, that's what I do. Give customer service the part numbers and pay over the phone. You will pay 4x the price from other vendors and I doubt you'll even find the safety spring. That's the spring you need. Itll be fine for shooting til they come in, but it wouldn't hurt to get new ones. As for the cover screws, I've never had them be loose. You could file the ends of them down, the flat end that goes into the hole. Just don't hit the threads. That will shorten them a bit and make them seat deeper. If they have side to side play, a little drop of glue in the holes or thread tape. Not really much room with all that small plastic stuff to shim anything.
You could order an Mrod trigger and challenger trigger guard and really upgrade that trigger lol. Need 2 brass washers between the housing and tube at the mounting holes to shim it out to the correct depth. .030" thickness and size 8 hole should do it... im trying to make you spend some money now lol
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I believe you gotta call the parts department still, that's what I do. Give customer service the part numbers and pay over the phone. You will pay 4x the price from other vendors and I doubt you'll even find the safety spring. That's the spring you need. Itll be fine for shooting til they come in, but it wouldn't hurt to get new ones. As for the cover screws, I've never had them be loose. You could file the ends of them down, the flat end that goes into the hole. Just don't hit the threads. That will shorten them a bit and make them seat deeper. If they have side to side play, a little drop of glue in the holes or thread tape. Not really much room with all that small plastic stuff to shim anything.
You could order an Mrod trigger and challenger trigger guard and really upgrade that trigger lol. Need 2 brass washers between the housing and tube at the mounting holes to shim it out to the correct depth. .030" thickness and size 8 hole should do it... im trying to make you spend some money now lol
The problem is the screws were stripped from the factory. They hold the plate on but I cant get it tight. Or should I say plastic tight. LOL
Now your trying to get me in trouble. LOL Yeah I may do the mrod trigger later but want to get this up and running for now. I have way to much money in this thing now. LOL Maybe not what you guys have but to me its a lot. I could have bought a Marauder for the money I have in this thing. If it comes to a new trigger ok but as they say for now "Run watcha brung" LOL
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Oh I get that. The stock trigger can be made pretty good with the 3 screw mod and a light spring from a Bic pen. I would put a drop of Elmer's glue or wood glue in each screw hole, put the assembly all back together and screw the screw down just shy of tight. Wait about 20 minutes and then tighten down a bit. That should let the glue fill in the sloppy areas and dry, but not a strong enough adhesive to weld it together lol
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Yeah thats it the tricks of the trade. This will break loose when i go back in later to put in the new spring and sear right? Its a mod of the old tooth pick in the hole trick but for plastic, LOL Thanks
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Yeah, thats why I was saying a drop of Elmer's or somehow strength. I forgot about the tooth pick trick!
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Yeah, thats why I was saying a drop of Elmer's or somehow strength. I forgot about the tooth pick trick!
Yeah I though maybe a little cotton to take up the slack. Anyway It worked for about 20 shots then back to the same problem. I have a spring and sear ordered from a guy on the forum. I have to get to the shop and take another look. It maybe the cover is working loose after a few shots and the cantilever and sear have to much movement and slid over each other. Idono. Maybe the Marauder trigger is in the future. LOL
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If the cover is that sloppy it could be the issue, ive never encountered that myself though. Good luck!
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Tried it again. Bent the trigger spring out more. Dressed the face of the sear although not sure thats the problem. Tried it again. Seems to work. fired 20 or more shots without a problem. The problem is the trigger pull is now awful. I can only get the mid 700fps using 14.3 crosman domes. If I adjust the hammer spring any tighter it won't cock. I think the cover for the trigger is a non issue. It fits tight enough in the stock to hold things together. I put two wraps of electrical tape around it to hold the cover tight and it just I mean just got in the stock. The cover really isn't sloppy but I cant get it snug. It won't fit quite flat across the housing.
Not sure why I cant get the power up a bit. When I increase it will not cock. Oh well fix one create another. LOL
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Is something hanging up in the hammer/ hammer spring area ???
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Is something hanging up in the hammer/ hammer spring area ???
Well I did notice the hammer is a bit dry. Next time out I think I put a little lube on it.
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Maybe your hammer spring has been too tight from the beginning causing all your issues.
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Maybe your hammer spring has been too tight from the beginning causing all your issues.
Thanks yep checked that out in the beginning. After I finished with the mods, a few years ago, I noticed I could get to much pressure on the spring and it wouldn't cock. I had to back off for the sear to lock up. I did the same thing this time. After the problem started I went way out on the spring then brought it in until I know I was in good territory. Still would lockup. Cant swear to it but it seems to be holding but........ the trigger is way to heavy and the velocity is not where I would like it. Not looking for a cannon but would ike to be in the mid 800's. As was suggested earlier I think the trigger spring pressure was a bit low. Of course when I check it again later it may not work. LOL
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Order a new frame/housing, sear and spring from Crosman.
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Order a new frame/housing, sear and spring from Crosman.
Yep A guy on the forum is sending a new spring and sear. I may have overdone it one the trigger spring tension. LOL I'll bet the trigger pull is in the 20lb + range. The thing cocks though but I can only get mid 700fps. If I try to go higher she won't cock. She slips off the sear.
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Order a new frame/housing, sear and spring from Crosman.
Yep A guy on the forum is sending a new spring and sear. I may have overdone it one the trigger spring tension. LOL I'll bet the trigger pull is in the 20lb + range. The thing cocks though but I can only get mid 700fps. If I try to go higher she won't cock. She slips off the sear.
Lol, I did say only bend it like an 1/8"!
At least it does appear to be the culprit though. I figured an 1/8" and then the spring back would've left it where you need it. Kind of like stretching any metal apart, gotta go a bit further than where you want it and then it fatigues back a bit. I've never seen one of these spring ever really wear out, you must've put alot of pellets thru your rifle lol.
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Ha a few. Probably not near what most of you guys shoot. I think tomorrow I'll bend it back a bit. Man that trigger is hard.LOL Another learning exp.
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Ha a few. Probably not near what most of you guys shoot. I think tomorrow I'll bend it back a bit. Man that trigger is hard.LOL Another learning exp.
LMBO, im just picturing this spring has a 45° angle at the sear now lol. Hopefully you get it sorted!
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Not quite that bad. LOL... i did over do it though. Obviously Dont mind playing with is sing a stock spring is on the way..Agin another learning exp.
Hey almost forgot to ask. What kind of velocities are you guys shooting the 14.3 crosmans? The other day I was in the mid to upper 800's. After working the spring I cant get more than mid 700's. Im only getting about 15 maybe 20 shots as its set now.
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If the sear is dragging on the hammer, your velocity will be low.
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On a stock disco tuned for 2000 psi it'll do close to mid 800s with 14.3s
It's probably dragging the hammer on the sear now because too much tension. It really is easy to over bend them. I honestly can't think of anything else it could be if the hammer, trigger group, and springs are all stock. If you have too long of a hammer spring it could cause it, especially with a power adjuster. Usually they just won't lock up after you reach coil bind.
The only thing you changed wad the spring tension so I would think its dragging the sear now. Did you bend the spring from its fulcrum point? Like the whole length from the coil, just bend that entire arm up a few degrees? Or did you actually put a bend in the end of the spring? I probably should have explained that better the first time around lol
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If the sear is dragging on the hammer, your velocity will be low.
Ha funny enough I never gave that a thought. I'm sure that is the case though. The trigger spring is way to heavy. Maybe proved the point that it was a bit weak but I way over did it. Thanks good point
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On a stock disco tuned for 2000 psi it'll do close to mid 800s with 14.3s
It's probably dragging the hammer on the sear now because too much tension. It really is easy to over bend them. I honestly can't think of anything else it could be if the hammer, trigger group, and springs are all stock. If you have too long of a hammer spring it could cause it, especially with a power adjuster. Usually they just won't lock up after you reach coil bind.
The only thing you changed wad the spring tension so I would think its dragging the sear now. Did you bend the spring from its fulcrum point? Like the whole length from the coil, just bend that entire arm up a few degrees? Or did you actually put a bend in the end of the spring? I probably should have explained that better the first time around lol
Well I didn't go to nuts but apparently I went to far. LOL. I'll bend it back a bit. I think now it's a balancing game. I think you were right it was all in the spring tension. I just went a bit to far. I know I'm surprised. LOL Yup before I bent the spring I was in the mid 800's also so it seems the rifle is shooting about right. I'll get er back in shape.
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Been playing with the spring this morning. I can get it to work great for about 20 shots or so then it does the same thing and won't cock. I think the spring is shot. I think I can get the tension right but with just a few shots the spring looses the tension and goes back to not cocking. I'm just going to wait for the new spring and sear to come in and change out the parts. They were mailed today. Should be here by Friday. Still cant get the velocity to go over mid 700's.
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Ok got the new parts in today. New sear and spring. Nope that's not it. Seems to work with the old and new parts till get to about 750 fps using the 14.3's. Ok what could next? Could the hammer be worn to the point where the sear cant hold it back? I cant think of anything else. But then again Idono. Anyone ever hear of a hammer warning like that?
Anyone know where I can even get a hammer? I dont see it listed on the parts list.
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Alchemy Airwerks on ebay has nice polished and deburred ones with a hammer pin for like 12 bucks or something. David does quality work. You could order from crosman but the last 2x I ordered a hammer for the 22xx/disco guns they sent the wrong part. The part number changed I think and there is some confusion.
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Or from Magnum Air Power.
He has custom and OEM.
I use his valve torx screws and hammer springs as well, particularly his .038” springs.
I find the .042 and .045 too hard for my low power builds.
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Just talked to Mr. Grimes (Alchemy Airwerks).. Real nice guy. Anyway he thinks its the hammer spring. He said he doesn't believe its the sear hammers spring or the hammer. Anyway he gave me some ideas and will be sending a couple of parts and we will see.
Funny thing, I really didn't want to get to far down a rabbit hole with this thing. I just wanted to get it back to where it was and use it as a short range plinker. Didn't want to put that much time in it but you know how that goes. We will see. The saga continues.
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David is great, I talk to him on occasion. He has made me custom one off stuff before too. I cant believe you're having this much trouble with it. Not much there to really get out of whack lol.
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David is great, I talk to him on occasion. He has made me custom one off stuff before too. I cant believe you're having this much trouble with it. Not much there to really get out of whack lol.
Na story of my life. Nothin easy. LOL Im used to it.
Does he do repair work or mostly sells parts ? Never got to ask.
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Just sells parts far as I know. Unless you live close maybe idk