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Curious about what options are out there. Looking more for .357 range and above, magazine fed (no single shot), and over or at least near to 200FPE mark. Full length rifles are a third option, with Bullpups and Carbines being the first two. Must be forward side lever; cheek or ear oriented ones are a no go. Semi auto would be the bee's knees, but I'd like for it to be reliable; a rifle isn't going to be much fun to shoot if it's constantly on the repair bench.
Budget? As long as it's not on the upper end of the stratosphere. About 1500, lower if possible so that optics and gear are a possibility. Used is acceptable too, just in case anyone has some tasty offerings. ;D
Sooo...what would be one's options?
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https://youtu.be/L5kato3jBOg
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Right now Pyramyd has a MAX .45 for sale
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/evanix-max-ml-bullpup?m=3394 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/evanix-max-ml-bullpup?m=3394)
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Slayer....
Bob
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I put a 21" .357 barrel to my Sniper X2 and it's shooting over 210 fpe. With .45 barrel they do around 200 fpe untuned. If you have money get the slayer.
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https://youtu.be/L5kato3jBOg
I've been waiting for word on when these will be coming out. Lol...its actually one of the rifles that's on the top of the list.
Now if they would just ship them already. And what about parts?
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Right now Pyramyd has a MAX .45 for sale
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/evanix-max-ml-bullpup?m=3394 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/evanix-max-ml-bullpup?m=3394)
Bruddah Manny...I've heard about these. They seem to be alright performance-wise, but for a .45, I'd like for it to be cranking out at least another 100FPE. If they had that, I'd be all over them.
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Slayer....
Bob
Definitely where I want to be in terms of power. Definitely not where I want to be in terms of budget. New almost 3k, used about 1900 to 2k+? And then we have that whole fiasco that happened earlier with some of the members. :( Waiting a year for a 3k dollar airgun is quite the stretch. Being strung along with false assurances and sometimes outright silent treatment is even worse.
Don't get me wrong...a Slayer is an absolutely exquisite gun. Sadly, though...there's no way I'd deal with the company brand new. :(
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I put a 21" .357 barrel to my Sniper X2 and it's shooting over 210 fpe. With .45 barrel they do around 200 fpe untuned. If you have money get the slayer.
rkr... is that a stock Sniper? Please tell me no, otherwise I'm going kick myself in the soldier factory for passing on that Sniper a couple months back.
Slayer? A used one would be nice!
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Manny had a nice .50 Sniper for sale awhile back.
Who grabbed that?
;D
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What? no one mentioned Benjamin Bulldog? get one on sale now for $635 and put a $179 JSAR balanced valve in and you will hit above 200fpe. side lever on the right, not forward.
Ya, there's no way i would pay $3000 plus...way over budget! all the rumors about extended waiting times too...
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I put a 21" .357 barrel to my Sniper X2 and it's shooting over 210 fpe. With .45 barrel they do around 200 fpe untuned. If you have money get the slayer.
rkr... is that a stock Sniper? Please tell me no, otherwise I'm going kick myself in the soldier factory for passing on that Sniper a couple months back.
Slayer? A used one would be nice!
Bigger ports and double hammer spring. The point being it is rather light and short if you take away that fake shroud and hand guard and it is also capable of producing 200 fpe with some small mods that cost next to nothing. With those same mods the gun with 21" .45 barrel was doing 270 fpe. As was said bulldog is a good budget candidate and since it has a long barrel it can produce quite impressive power figures.
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Used Slayer's pop up every once in a while, thou they don't last long before being sold. that is how I picked mine up.
Now JSAR announced they are releasing a .357 Raptor next year capable of 280fpe if I remember correctly? I'm just throwing it out there for you to consider.
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Manny had a nice .50 Sniper for sale awhile back.
Who grabbed that?
;D
Lol. Hmmm....I woooonder who? ;D
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I put a 21" .357 barrel to my Sniper X2 and it's shooting over 210 fpe. With .45 barrel they do around 200 fpe untuned. If you have money get the slayer.
rkr... is that a stock Sniper? Please tell me no, otherwise I'm going kick myself in the soldier factory for passing on that Sniper a couple months back.
Slayer? A used one would be nice!
Bigger ports and double hammer spring. The point being it is rather light and short if you take away that fake shroud and hand guard and it is also capable of producing 200 fpe with some small mods that cost next to nothing. With those same mods the gun with 21" .45 barrel was doing 270 fpe. As was said bulldog is a good budget candidate and since it has a long barrel it can produce quite impressive power figures.
Dangit...I was afraid you were gonna say something like that. Now I'm really regretting passing on the Sniper. It was a 50 cal, so that would've had good potential for FPE.
I have two springs for the double HS mod for my Winchester. Maybe I'll try that out. Also, I don't think the stock HS is at its max setting. I wish there was some place where I could buy parts for it...that way I'd be more amenable to trying out modifications.
As for the Bulldog, if there were some way to beef up that sidelever and move it forward, I'd be willing to try it. The rear cocking lever/bolt just nixes it for me.
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What? no one mentioned Benjamin Bulldog? get one on sale now for $635 and put a $179 JSAR balanced valve in and you will hit above 200fpe. side lever on the right, not forward.
Ya, there's no way i would pay $3000 plus...way over budget! all the rumors about extended waiting times too...
Hmm...I got the responses mixed up. Sorry, darkcharisma.
The BD was the first big bore that I looked at. Then I got a Bullboss and I got sold on the forward lever. I've passed on the Krals, Flashpups, Taipans and the BD.
I do like the BD for the amount of power it can put out straight from the box. And looking over some of the mod threads, it seems like it doesn't take much to turn it into a respectable slinger. We gotta find a way to make it a forward side lever...
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Used Slayer's pop up every once in a while, thou they don't last long before being sold. that is how I picked mine up.
Now JSAR announced they are releasing a .357 Raptor next year capable of 280fpe if I remember correctly? I'm just throwing it out there for you to consider.
Well now...this changes the game up a bit. Is the fill pressure still 4500? I wish they'd drop it a little...maybe to like 3800. My poor tank and compressors won't be able to keep up with 4500.
I think I'll head over to JSAR and see what's happening. Thanks for the tip screwwork!
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I would bet it will not have a reg for max fpe and most likely Ti tube, probably the same fill pressure as the .257 without a reg? I'm not sure what the fill pressure would be 4 max? JSAR would be the guys to ask.
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I just bought a bulldog
I was very hesitant because of the rear side lever,weak aluminum side lever,the lenth of the rifle and I'm not a Crosman/Benjamin fan.
My Bullboss turned me off on the bullpup design.
However I pulled the trigger on the Bulldog.
Fell in love.
Unlike the Bullboss the Bulldog is well balanced and feels so much lighter despite it being longer it has less steel on it and a larger airtube.
There are Aftermarket steel charge handles avalible.
My requirements were a .357 that produced 10 shots above 120 ft lbs.
Mainly wanted a pellet shooter.
The Bulldog has exceeded my needs and expectations so far.
I believe the Bulldog is the best airgun Benjamin ever produced.
Time will tell.
A foward side lever would be awesome but the rear design is something I can live with.
Especially with the 20% off I got from Pyramid Air.
Maybe I sound biased since I have the New Gun Fever.
I have loved and hated my Bullboss over the years.
Currently love it as long as I have JSB ammo.....anything else I hate the poor accuracy.
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I would take a look at the Atamans, I was hesitant at first with the M2R bullpup, but that has all gone away. It's regulated, 7 shot mag with 10 shots per fill before it drops off. Accurate right out of the box(comes with a Lothar Walther barrel), easy to load and cock, the trigger is 1lb or just a little less, weighs about 9lbs with scope. I haven't chronied it yet but it's probably pushing about 150fpe with 92gr pellets. The cocking lever is in the rear of the gun but does not hinder the cheek placement. It does have some limitation with the size of pellets fitting the magazine, if to long it will not index properly. Fill for this gun is 300bar, so you will need something that can fill it. DonnyFL moderators fit gun very well and do a great job of taming the report. I can shoot offhand with the scope, it's well balanced and easy to carry. I do have a very minor leak with it but it doesn't affect the overall performance of the gun. It takes a few days for it to leak down and I expect that with it being new, I have had new guns do that in the past and with regular filling and shoot, the issue went away. The price may not make it in your set goal, I caught this gun on sale with PA a few weeks ago and got it close to your set goal. The gun is well made, nothing loose or floppy on it, the wood has a nice finish to it. I am happy with it, so far it has met all my expectations.
(https://i.imgur.com/BbjmvSrm.jpg)
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My first bullpup is the .357 Slayer. It's great for offhand shooting and field carry, but a little awkward at the bench. Not too terrible though, and there are work arounds to setting it up on a bench. Of course there are different styles of bullpups, too.
The rear cocking design on a bullpup was always a concern to me as well. Fortunately the Slayer requires only a three pound cocking effort, so really a mute point with it, but have read some of these big bores are not so easy to cock.
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I now own two .357 Slayers, bought the first one used in September when I didn't think my new order would arrive in time for start of deer season. The new one arrived early this week (bagged my first buck with an AG a couple weeks ago with the used Slayer) so I am glad I found the used one for opening weekend. I also own a PitBull that is very capable for deer as well. It isn't quite as powerful as the Slayer (255 fpe vs 285 fpe) but still impressive. So, I now own three .357's and really only need/want two. I will probably part with one of them so if you are interested, feel free to PM me.
Dennis
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I would take a look at the Atamans, I was hesitant at first with the M2R bullpup, but that has all gone away. It's regulated, 7 shot mag with 10 shots per fill before it drops off. Accurate right out of the box(comes with a Lothar Walther barrel), easy to load and cock, the trigger is 1lb or just a little less, weighs about 9lbs with scope. I haven't chronied it yet but it's probably pushing about 150fpe with 92gr pellets. The cocking lever is in the rear of the gun but does not hinder the cheek placement. It does have some limitation with the size of pellets fitting the magazine, if to long it will not index properly. Fill for this gun is 300bar, so you will need something that can fill it. DonnyFL moderators fit gun very well and do a great job of taming the report. I can shoot offhand with the scope, it's well balanced and easy to carry. I do have a very minor leak with it but it doesn't affect the overall performance of the gun. It takes a few days for it to leak down and I expect that with it being new, I have had new guns do that in the past and with regular filling and shoot, the issue went away. The price may not make it in your set goal, I caught this gun on sale with PA a few weeks ago and got it close to your set goal. The gun is well made, nothing loose or floppy on it, the wood has a nice finish to it. I am happy with it, so far it has met all my expectations.
(https://i.imgur.com/BbjmvSrm.jpg)
They really are nice guns aren’t they Kris. Just picked up one of these also at AGD, on sale. Not a lot of info out there about these guns, I was actually about to start a thread to see if there are other owners of these. I put a Ronin on mine, still seems loud to me, although I didn’t shoot it without yet. I’ve only shot one magazine so far, waiting to get it to the range whenI can spend some time with it.
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I would take a look at the Atamans, I was hesitant at first with the M2R bullpup, but that has all gone away. It's regulated, 7 shot mag with 10 shots per fill before it drops off. Accurate right out of the box(comes with a Lothar Walther barrel), easy to load and cock, the trigger is 1lb or just a little less, weighs about 9lbs with scope. I haven't chronied it yet but it's probably pushing about 150fpe with 92gr pellets. The cocking lever is in the rear of the gun but does not hinder the cheek placement. It does have some limitation with the size of pellets fitting the magazine, if to long it will not index properly. Fill for this gun is 300bar, so you will need something that can fill it. DonnyFL moderators fit gun very well and do a great job of taming the report. I can shoot offhand with the scope, it's well balanced and easy to carry. I do have a very minor leak with it but it doesn't affect the overall performance of the gun. It takes a few days for it to leak down and I expect that with it being new, I have had new guns do that in the past and with regular filling and shoot, the issue went away. The price may not make it in your set goal, I caught this gun on sale with PA a few weeks ago and got it close to your set goal. The gun is well made, nothing loose or floppy on it, the wood has a nice finish to it. I am happy with it, so far it has met all my expectations.
(https://i.imgur.com/BbjmvSrm.jpg)
They really are nice guns aren’t they Kris. Just picked up one of these also at AGD, on sale. Not a lot of info out there about these guns, I was actually about to start a thread to see if there are other owners of these. I put a Ronin on mine, still seems loud to me, although I didn’t shoot it without yet. I’ve only shot one magazine so far, waiting to get it to the range whenI can spend some time with it.
It is indeed, with the Ronin I don't have wear ear plugs, it really tames the report. You can add sound damping material to make it quieter, that's what is nice about it. Donny has made where you can take it apart to add more to it or do maintenance if needed. I am shooting NOE .357 92gr pellets in it and it is spot on with them. I haven't even tried anything else with it being accurate out of the box.
https://donnyfl.com/collections/ldc/products/2-x-6-5-inch-ronin
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The Ataman has mostly good reviews...it just depends on then luck of the draw and WHO is commenting...price isn't all that bad, I've been looking for a while now but for me the "BLACK DAY" stuff got me and works for my thing.
Slayer is the dream gun..BUT for the problems. I would like to have one but I'm WAY TOO CHEAP.
The Hatsans are well known and understood for their "problems"...BUT EVERY gun will have glitches and "problems" to some and price doesn't always reflect reality.
I don't discount what people say that have specific rifles/pistols but it's the old thing of "If you like it, you praise it, If you don't you diss it...AND we ALL have to "buyers remorse" to contend with.
You decide, pays yo' bread and takes yo' chances....bottom line.
Get an Ataman!!!
Good luck on your choice.
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I would bet it will not have a reg for max fpe and most likely Ti tube, probably the same fill pressure as the .257 without a reg? I'm not sure what the fill pressure would be 4 max? JSAR would be the guys to ask.
Hmm...so that would mean a 4350 fill pressure, if it runs off of the same pressures as the full size Raptor and the Raptor mini. My brand new tank will fill that gun about 2.2 times. :(
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I just bought a bulldog
I was very hesitant because of the rear side lever,weak aluminum side lever,the lenth of the rifle and I'm not a Crosman/Benjamin fan.
My Bullboss turned me off on the bullpup design.
However I pulled the trigger on the Bulldog.
Fell in love.
Unlike the Bullboss the Bulldog is well balanced and feels so much lighter despite it being longer it has less steel on it and a larger airtube.
There are Aftermarket steel charge handles avalible.
My requirements were a .357 that produced 10 shots above 120 ft lbs.
Mainly wanted a pellet shooter.
The Bulldog has exceeded my needs and expectations so far.
I believe the Bulldog is the best airgun Benjamin ever produced.
Time will tell.
A foward side lever would be awesome but the rear design is something I can live with.
Especially with the 20% off I got from Pyramid Air.
Maybe I sound biased since I have the New Gun Fever.
I have loved and hated my Bullboss over the years.
Currently love it as long as I have JSB ammo.....anything else I hate the poor accuracy.
Hmm...interesting. I've always like bullpups and carbines. Full size rifles, not so much. I've loved my Boss since I first got it. Sure it's a little heavy, but I love how compact it is. I wish it had a magazine that would fit longer ammo, but oh well. And it'd be nice to have more power, but it's good enough to get things done.
Who knows, though? Maybe if I can get a Bulldog for the right price, I'll give it a shot. ;D
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I would take a look at the Atamans, I was hesitant at first with the M2R bullpup, but that has all gone away. It's regulated, 7 shot mag with 10 shots per fill before it drops off. Accurate right out of the box(comes with a Lothar Walther barrel), easy to load and cock, the trigger is 1lb or just a little less, weighs about 9lbs with scope. I haven't chronied it yet but it's probably pushing about 150fpe with 92gr pellets. The cocking lever is in the rear of the gun but does not hinder the cheek placement. It does have some limitation with the size of pellets fitting the magazine, if to long it will not index properly. Fill for this gun is 300bar, so you will need something that can fill it. DonnyFL moderators fit gun very well and do a great job of taming the report. I can shoot offhand with the scope, it's well balanced and easy to carry. I do have a very minor leak with it but it doesn't affect the overall performance of the gun. It takes a few days for it to leak down and I expect that with it being new, I have had new guns do that in the past and with regular filling and shoot, the issue went away. The price may not make it in your set goal, I caught this gun on sale with PA a few weeks ago and got it close to your set goal. The gun is well made, nothing loose or floppy on it, the wood has a nice finish to it. I am happy with it, so far it has met all my expectations.
(https://i.imgur.com/BbjmvSrm.jpg)
No doubt they are quite the pretty rifle, Kris. I actually debated on getting one a while back. I think it was Loren's .357 carbine that made it look so enticing. After some research though, I found out I'd be roughly in the same starting block as my Winchester. They put out roughly the same FPE.
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I have a winchester 70-45 with a power tune from Will Piatt for sale for $700 with scope and rings, $600 without.
It hits right at 200fpe, smooth side lever, and the length is almost carbine like, definitely not a long barrel! 5 shot cylinder magazine.
puts three touching shots at 50 yards all day long, as long as you have air!
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Right now Pyramyd has a MAX .45 for sale
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/evanix-max-ml-bullpup?m=3394 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/evanix-max-ml-bullpup?m=3394)
Bruddah Manny...I've heard about these. They seem to be alright performance-wise, but for a .45, I'd like for it to be cranking out at least another 100FPE. If they had that, I'd be all over them.
You will be surprised what a 200 FPE .45 is capable off,
I had 300 FPE .45 and 400 FPE .50,...a 200 FPE .45 shooting the EPP/UG is a formidable hunting weapon.
I had a .45 MAX, there's a thread out there showing a bunch :) :)
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The MAX .45 is a much smaller Pup then the Bulldog ;D ;D ;D ;D
(https://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/guns/DSCF1396_zpsxvuugedc.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/guns/DSCF1396_zpsxvuugedc.jpg.html)
(https://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/guns/DSCF1283_zpscoezyzin.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/guns/DSCF1283_zpscoezyzin.jpg.html)
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.45 Evanixes have 21" barrels so they are not too long guns. .45 Evanix can be tuned for up to 300 fpe with heavy bullets. However, they have 15" twist barrels that are not suited for light bullets. That's why I put a .357 barrel to my .45 snd it's still making 210+ fpe with 125 grainers. For 50 yards those .45s are fine but mine did't group at 100 yards.
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(https://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/guns/DSCF1495_zpsckevtn3c.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/guns/DSCF1495_zpsckevtn3c.jpg.html)
(https://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/guns/DSCF1286_zpsckxaoxjn.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/guns/DSCF1286_zpsckxaoxjn.jpg.html)
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.45 Evanixes have 21" barrels so they are not too long guns. .45 Evanix can be tuned for up to 300 fpe with heavy bullets. However, they have 15" twist barrels that are not suited for light bullets. That's why I put a .357 barrel to my .45 snd it's still making 210+ fpe with 125 grainers. For 50 yards those .45s are fine but mine did't group at 100 yards.
He's hunting the Jungles of Guam, I don't think he's to concerned about 100 Yards groups :) LOL :) , even 50 is a stretch I bet in that environment,.... not everybody is looking for long range target shooters :) LOL :)
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.45 Evanixes have 21" barrels so they are not too long guns. .45 Evanix can be tuned for up to 300 fpe with heavy bullets. However, they have 15" twist barrels that are not suited for light bullets. That's why I put a .357 barrel to my .45 snd it's still making 210+ fpe with 125 grainers. For 50 yards those .45s are fine but mine did't group at 100 yards.
He's hunting the Jungles of Guam, I don't think he's to concerned about 100 Yards groups :) LOL :) , even 50 is a stretch I bet in that environment,.... not everybody is looking for long range target shooters :) LOL :)
Well, with some 340 grainers Evanix .45 is devastating at short range if that's what you are looking for. 300 fpe with some tuning and loopy trajectory but you can easily shoot through bushes and vegetation.
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Super happy with the Bulldog. It shoots a wide range of ammo accurately and had no issues harvesting this critter with NSA hollow points.
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I got distracted by Manny :) 340 grainers do not fit in the magazine of Evanix. The largest you can shoot from mag is about 220 grains. That still packs lots of punch and is not affected by twigs and stuff in thick brushes.
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My first bullpup is the .357 Slayer. It's great for offhand shooting and field carry, but a little awkward at the bench. Not too terrible though, and there are work arounds to setting it up on a bench. Of course there are different styles of bullpups, too.
The rear cocking design on a bullpup was always a concern to me as well. Fortunately the Slayer requires only a three pound cocking effort, so really a mute point with it, but have read some of these big bores are not so easy to cock.
Yeah, I took a closer look yesterday, and I saw the rear cocking lever. I really don't like that position. I've tried putting my hand right by my ear and mimicking the motion, and me really no like. I know that's probably not an accurate representation of how it actually is to use a rear side lever, but I just thought I'd get a feel. And if I'm going to be spending 1500 on a rifle, I'd kinda like it if was something that feels natural to me.
I think what I need to do is get my hands on a very budget-friendly rifle that has a rear cocking lever and experience the real thing instead of simulations. Maybe I'll look for a used Flashpup and try it out.
My eyes keep wandering back to the Herc Bully since it's a forward side lever, but I've been reading about how those are a bear to cock. I guess that's a lesser of two evils in my head, since I'm browsing the Hatsan refurbs almost daily. That $600 price tag also makes it quite tempting. ???
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I now own two .357 Slayers, bought the first one used in September when I didn't think my new order would arrive in time for start of deer season. The new one arrived early this week (bagged my first buck with an AG a couple weeks ago with the used Slayer) so I am glad I found the used one for opening weekend. I also own a PitBull that is very capable for deer as well. It isn't quite as powerful as the Slayer (255 fpe vs 285 fpe) but still impressive. So, I now own three .357's and really only need/want two. I will probably part with one of them so if you are interested, feel free to PM me.
Dennis
now that's quite the respectable quiver. Both specimens sling lead quite respectably.
Thanks for the offer, Dennis!
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The Ataman has mostly good reviews...it just depends on then luck of the draw and WHO is commenting...price isn't all that bad, I've been looking for a while now but for me the "BLACK DAY" stuff got me and works for my thing.
Slayer is the dream gun..BUT for the problems. I would like to have one but I'm WAY TOO CHEAP.
The Hatsans are well known and understood for their "problems"...BUT EVERY gun will have glitches and "problems" to some and price doesn't always reflect reality.
I don't discount what people say that have specific rifles/pistols but it's the old thing of "If you like it, you praise it, If you don't you diss it...AND we ALL have to "buyers remorse" to contend with.
You decide, pays yo' bread and takes yo' chances....bottom line.
Get an Ataman!!!
Good luck on your choice.
Hmm...another vote for the Ataman. You know, it's a crying shame that we don't have a quality airgun shop out here. It sure would be nice to get a feel for the rifles before going off the deep financial end for one.
That, and I have absolutely horrible buyer's remorse.
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I have a winchester 70-45 with a power tune from Will Piatt for sale for $700 with scope and rings, $600 without.
It hits right at 200fpe, smooth side lever, and the length is almost carbine like, definitely not a long barrel! 5 shot cylinder magazine.
puts three touching shots at 50 yards all day long, as long as you have air!
aaah...the 45. Definitely going to bring the pain with that one. Especially with a proper slug that'll hit like a sledge hammer. Accurate too!
I will say this about my Winchester: she is hands down the smoothest rifle in my inventory. That, and it's like she's a physiological match made in heaven.
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Right now Pyramyd has a MAX .45 for sale
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/evanix-max-ml-bullpup?m=3394 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/evanix-max-ml-bullpup?m=3394)
Bruddah Manny...I've heard about these. They seem to be alright performance-wise, but for a .45, I'd like for it to be cranking out at least another 100FPE. If they had that, I'd be all over them.
You will be surprised what a 200 FPE .45 is capable off,
I had 300 FPE .45 and 400 FPE .50,...a 200 FPE .45 shooting the EPP/UG is a formidable hunting weapon.
I had a .45 MAX, there's a thread out there showing a bunch :) :)
And that right there is the gate of my conundrum. I'd like for the 35 to sling EPP/UGs accurately. JSBs are an absolute laser...and I have no doubt that they'll put down just about anything I come across as long as I do my part.
But can you imagine a HP impacting the neck bones just a hair behind where the ear meets the jowl? My partner dropped a 120 pounder dead in her tracks with a 10/22 slinging 40gr HPs. Small entry wound, and about a 2 inch cavity where the round dumped all it's energy. Neck bones? Separated and fragmented. I can only imagine a .357 EPP/UG HP in the same scenario.
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The MAX .45 is a much smaller Pup then the Bulldog ;D ;D ;D ;D
(https://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/guns/DSCF1396_zpsxvuugedc.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/guns/DSCF1396_zpsxvuugedc.jpg.html)
(https://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/guns/DSCF1283_zpscoezyzin.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/guns/DSCF1283_zpscoezyzin.jpg.html)
Lol...thanks, bruddah Manny! Now you got me looking at that refurb .45 Max.
Is it easy to get parts for them? Geez...lookit how svelte that thing looks compared the BD.
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.45 Evanixes have 21" barrels so they are not too long guns. .45 Evanix can be tuned for up to 300 fpe with heavy bullets. However, they have 15" twist barrels that are not suited for light bullets. That's why I put a .357 barrel to my .45 snd it's still making 210+ fpe with 125 grainers. For 50 yards those .45s are fine but mine did't group at 100 yards.
How feasible is it for me to make about 850FPS with that platform, rkr? I've noticed some slugs don't like to travel too leisurely. Probably a little different, but my newly acquired Bullboss slings 28gr slugs at about 974FPS. At 30 yards, they're literally hole-in-hole. She's another one that needs to come with me.
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Ok...so just a quick note. Manny and I are roughly the same height. I've had about a couple dozen more sandwiches than he has, but height-wise we're pretty close. ;D
When I see him shouldering a rifle, our weld and pull are verrry similar.
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.45 Evanixes have 21" barrels so they are not too long guns. .45 Evanix can be tuned for up to 300 fpe with heavy bullets. However, they have 15" twist barrels that are not suited for light bullets. That's why I put a .357 barrel to my .45 snd it's still making 210+ fpe with 125 grainers. For 50 yards those .45s are fine but mine did't group at 100 yards.
He's hunting the Jungles of Guam, I don't think he's to concerned about 100 Yards groups :) LOL :) , even 50 is a stretch I bet in that environment,.... not everybody is looking for long range target shooters :) LOL :)
that is correct, sir. 50 yards is usually a rare shot. I did stalk one a couple months back, but he kept about a 45yd distance. It was hard to maintain noise discipline and close the gap. I had the big bore, but I didn't really make a note of POI past 30, which was my zero.
Most shots are around the 12-25yd range.
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.45 Evanixes have 21" barrels so they are not too long guns. .45 Evanix can be tuned for up to 300 fpe with heavy bullets. However, they have 15" twist barrels that are not suited for light bullets. That's why I put a .357 barrel to my .45 snd it's still making 210+ fpe with 125 grainers. For 50 yards those .45s are fine but mine did't group at 100 yards.
He's hunting the Jungles of Guam, I don't think he's to concerned about 100 Yards groups :) LOL :) , even 50 is a stretch I bet in that environment,.... not everybody is looking for long range target shooters :) LOL :)
Well, with some 340 grainers Evanix .45 is devastating at short range if that's what you are looking for. 300 fpe with some tuning and loopy trajectory but you can easily shoot through bushes and vegetation.
340 grain? Holy cow that's a freight train of a bullet! :o Um yeah...I'd imagine some twigs and leaves would do little to veer it off-course.
Holy cow the impact!
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Super happy with the Bulldog. It shoots a wide range of ammo accurately and had no issues harvesting this critter with NSA hollow points.
Yes, that's one of the things that the BD has going for it. It shoots pretty respectable out of the box.
Nice harvest! I tried using NSA slugs in my Winchester, and she didn't really like them. :(
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I got distracted by Manny :) 340 grainers do not fit in the magazine of Evanix. The largest you can shoot from mag is about 220 grains. That still packs lots of punch and is not affected by twigs and stuff in thick brushes.
Oh ok. Still though...that's a heavy round. What kinda FPE levels are you getting with that weight, rkr?
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.45 Evanixes have 21" barrels so they are not too long guns. .45 Evanix can be tuned for up to 300 fpe with heavy bullets. However, they have 15" twist barrels that are not suited for light bullets. That's why I put a .357 barrel to my .45 snd it's still making 210+ fpe with 125 grainers. For 50 yards those .45s are fine but mine did't group at 100 yards.
He's hunting the Jungles of Guam, I don't think he's to concerned about 100 Yards groups :) LOL :) , even 50 is a stretch I bet in that environment,.... not everybody is looking for long range target shooters :) LOL :)
that is correct, sir. 50 yards is usually a rare shot. I did stalk one a couple months back, but he kept about a 45yd distance. It was hard to maintain noise discipline and close the gap. I had the big bore, but I didn't really make a note of POI past 30, which was my zero.
Most shots are around the 12-25yd range.
Talking about keeping the noise down ;
I found the Buldog horrific in that regard, the cheap thin hollow stock makes a lot of noise just by touching it, in the thick jungle it really magnifies it a lot.
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Very true. It's amazing how "normal" noises seem to be amplified when you're stalking about. I always bring my phone with me in case of emergencies, and I always have to put it on silent because even the vibration in my pocket seems like siren going off.
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.45 Evanixes have 21" barrels so they are not too long guns. .45 Evanix can be tuned for up to 300 fpe with heavy bullets. However, they have 15" twist barrels that are not suited for light bullets. That's why I put a .357 barrel to my .45 snd it's still making 210+ fpe with 125 grainers. For 50 yards those .45s are fine but mine did't group at 100 yards.
How feasible is it for me to make about 850FPS with that platform, rkr? I've noticed some slugs don't like to travel too leisurely. Probably a little different, but my newly acquired Bullboss slings 28gr slugs at about 974FPS. At 30 yards, they're literally hole-in-hole. She's another one that needs to come with me.
I was shooting EPP/UGs at around 840 fps from my .45 Evanix. Port job and hammer springs.
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I got distracted by Manny :) 340 grainers do not fit in the magazine of Evanix. The largest you can shoot from mag is about 220 grains. That still packs lots of punch and is not affected by twigs and stuff in thick brushes.
Oh ok. Still though...that's a heavy round. What kinda FPE levels are you getting with that weight, rkr?
I was shooting them at 740 fps which is 270 fpe. The gun was not maxed out at that point.
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.45 Evanixes have 21" barrels so they are not too long guns. .45 Evanix can be tuned for up to 300 fpe with heavy bullets. However, they have 15" twist barrels that are not suited for light bullets. That's why I put a .357 barrel to my .45 snd it's still making 210+ fpe with 125 grainers. For 50 yards those .45s are fine but mine did't group at 100 yards.
How feasible is it for me to make about 850FPS with that platform, rkr? I've noticed some slugs don't like to travel too leisurely. Probably a little different, but my newly acquired Bullboss slings 28gr slugs at about 974FPS. At 30 yards, they're literally hole-in-hole. She's another one that needs to come with me.
I was shooting EPP/UGs at around 840 fps from my .45 Evanix. Port job and hammer springs.
Hmm...is that port on everything? Valve, transfer and barrel?
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I got distracted by Manny :) 340 grainers do not fit in the magazine of Evanix. The largest you can shoot from mag is about 220 grains. That still packs lots of punch and is not affected by twigs and stuff in thick brushes.
Oh ok. Still though...that's a heavy round. What kinda FPE levels are you getting with that weight, rkr?
I was shooting them at 740 fps which is 270 fpe. The gun was not maxed out at that point.
And the gun wasn't maxed? Nice! So I can go lower in weight and increase my FPS a tad. Dangit...now I'm really regretting passing on that Sniper. :(
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Yeah, that Sniper was a great deal ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Also, keep in mind ;
Out of those Bog bores you can shoot arrows too, way, way more devastating on game then any pellet/bullet
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The Max 45 has 19" barrel while the bulldog has whopping 28" barrel. Max 45 overall 29" vs 36" bulldog. Max weight in at 8.2lbs and 290cc while bulldog at 7.7lbs and 340cc.
i am still liking the bulldog for the price. Evanix is nice though!
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Yeah, that Sniper was a great deal ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Lol...yes it was! I can console myself with the Sumatra for now. ;D
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Also, keep in mind ;
Out of those Bog bores you can shoot arrows too, way, way more devastating on game then any pellet/bullet
That's another option I was pondering. I don't want to track too far, though; the jungle here is absolutely brutal. Cliff on one side, deep jungle on the other.
I suppose I could try a head shot with the arrows?
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The Max 45 has 19" barrel while the bulldog has whopping 28" barrel. Max 45 overall 29" vs 36" bulldog. Max weight in at 8.2lbs and 290cc while bulldog at 7.7lbs and 340cc.
i am still liking the bulldog for the price. Evanix is nice though!
Oh wow...the Max is that short? Holy moly...that would make one heck of a bush gun! That's probably where the BD gets its extra edge in power too.
How is it acquiring Evanix parts? I'd like to get another barrel to experiment with...along with a transfer port.
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No, No !!!!!
headshots with lead, bodyshots with arrows
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if you only going for hardshots anyway you don't need a .45 or a .50,...rather get a .30 since you already have a .357
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.45 Evanixes have 21" barrels so they are not too long guns. .45 Evanix can be tuned for up to 300 fpe with heavy bullets. However, they have 15" twist barrels that are not suited for light bullets. That's why I put a .357 barrel to my .45 snd it's still making 210+ fpe with 125 grainers. For 50 yards those .45s are fine but mine did't group at 100 yards.
How feasible is it for me to make about 850FPS with that platform, rkr? I've noticed some slugs don't like to travel too leisurely. Probably a little different, but my newly acquired Bullboss slings 28gr slugs at about 974FPS. At 30 yards, they're literally hole-in-hole. She's another one that needs to come with me.
I was shooting EPP/UGs at around 840 fps from my .45 Evanix. Port job and hammer springs.
Hmm...is that port on everything? Valve, transfer and barrel?
Yes, also valve body inlet.
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I got distracted by Manny :) 340 grainers do not fit in the magazine of Evanix. The largest you can shoot from mag is about 220 grains. That still packs lots of punch and is not affected by twigs and stuff in thick brushes.
Oh ok. Still though...that's a heavy round. What kinda FPE levels are you getting with that weight, rkr?
I was shooting them at 740 fps which is 270 fpe. The gun was not maxed out at that point.
And the gun wasn't maxed? Nice! So I can go lower in weight and increase my FPS a tad. Dangit...now I'm really regretting passing on that Sniper. :(
With 155 grain EPP/UGs you should get 880 fps or maybe even a tad bit more. It's also worth noting that my Sniper X2 is limited to 9mm ports due to the bottle connection. With tube version of Sniper it should be possible to go for barrel size ports - although that would take additional mods like longer probe nose and moving the o-rings on valve housing.
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No, No !!!!!
headshots with lead, bodyshots with arrows
oh. Roger that!
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if you only going for hardshots anyway you don't need a .45 or a .50,...rather get a .30 since you already have a .357
I was thinking about that too...but I kinda wanted the .45 and .50 to open up my shooting options to neck shots. Those drop em pretty quick too.
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.45 Evanixes have 21" barrels so they are not too long guns. .45 Evanix can be tuned for up to 300 fpe with heavy bullets. However, they have 15" twist barrels that are not suited for light bullets. That's why I put a .357 barrel to my .45 snd it's still making 210+ fpe with 125 grainers. For 50 yards those .45s are fine but mine did't group at 100 yards.
How feasible is it for me to make about 850FPS with that platform, rkr? I've noticed some slugs don't like to travel too leisurely. Probably a little different, but my newly acquired Bullboss slings 28gr slugs at about 974FPS. At 30 yards, they're literally hole-in-hole. She's another one that needs to come with me.
I was shooting EPP/UGs at around 840 fps from my .45 Evanix. Port job and hammer springs.
Hmm...is that port on everything? Valve, transfer and barrel?
Yes, also valve body inlet.
Hmm. Now I just need to know where I can source parts. I'd really hate to turn my rifle into a paperweight. :(
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I got distracted by Manny :) 340 grainers do not fit in the magazine of Evanix. The largest you can shoot from mag is about 220 grains. That still packs lots of punch and is not affected by twigs and stuff in thick brushes.
Oh ok. Still though...that's a heavy round. What kinda FPE levels are you getting with that weight, rkr?
I was shooting them at 740 fps which is 270 fpe. The gun was not maxed out at that point.
And the gun wasn't maxed? Nice! So I can go lower in weight and increase my FPS a tad. Dangit...now I'm really regretting passing on that Sniper. :(
With 155 grain EPP/UGs you should get 880 fps or maybe even a tad bit more. It's also worth noting that my Sniper X2 is limited to 9mm ports due to the bottle connection. With tube version of Sniper it should be possible to go for barrel size ports - although that would take additional mods like longer probe nose and moving the o-rings on valve housing.
:( That sounds a little complex.
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if you only going for hardshots anyway you don't need a .45 or a .50,...rather get a .30 since you already have a .357
I was thinking about that too...but I kinda wanted the .45 and .50 to open up my shooting options to neck shots. Those drop em pretty quick too.
Yeah, neck shots are great and .45 .50 are great calibers for it,.... for neck shots you don't really need more then 200 FPE
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if you only going for hardshots anyway you don't need a .45 or a .50,...rather get a .30 since you already have a .357
I was thinking about that too...but I kinda wanted the .45 and .50 to open up my shooting options to neck shots. Those drop em pretty quick too.
Yeah, neck shots are great and .45 .50 are great calibers for it,.... for neck shots you don't really need more then 200 FPE
Dangit. Now I need to find me a used Sniper.
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I got distracted by Manny :) 340 grainers do not fit in the magazine of Evanix. The largest you can shoot from mag is about 220 grains. That still packs lots of punch and is not affected by twigs and stuff in thick brushes.
Oh ok. Still though...that's a heavy round. What kinda FPE levels are you getting with that weight, rkr?
I was shooting them at 740 fps which is 270 fpe. The gun was not maxed out at that point.
And the gun wasn't maxed? Nice! So I can go lower in weight and increase my FPS a tad. Dangit...now I'm really regretting passing on that Sniper. :(
With 155 grain EPP/UGs you should get 880 fps or maybe even a tad bit more. It's also worth noting that my Sniper X2 is limited to 9mm ports due to the bottle connection. With tube version of Sniper it should be possible to go for barrel size ports - although that would take additional mods like longer probe nose and moving the o-rings on valve housing.
:( That sounds a little complex.
It is, I wouldn't recommend it as your first project. Just open up the ports and chamber inlet to match the biggest diameter that fits easily and the firing valve allows. Then add the double spring setup. That should give you 250+ fpe.
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if you only going for hardshots anyway you don't need a .45 or a .50,...rather get a .30 since you already have a .357
I was thinking about that too...but I kinda wanted the .45 and .50 to open up my shooting options to neck shots. Those drop em pretty quick too.
Yeah, neck shots are great and .45 .50 are great calibers for it,.... for neck shots you don't really need more then 200 FPE
Dangit. Now I need to find me a used Sniper.
If you like Pups, that MAX .45 would be perfect for your needs
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I got distracted by Manny :) 340 grainers do not fit in the magazine of Evanix. The largest you can shoot from mag is about 220 grains. That still packs lots of punch and is not affected by twigs and stuff in thick brushes.
Oh ok. Still though...that's a heavy round. What kinda FPE levels are you getting with that weight, rkr?
I was shooting them at 740 fps which is 270 fpe. The gun was not maxed out at that point.
And the gun wasn't maxed? Nice! So I can go lower in weight and increase my FPS a tad. Dangit...now I'm really regretting passing on that Sniper. :(
With 155 grain EPP/UGs you should get 880 fps or maybe even a tad bit more. It's also worth noting that my Sniper X2 is limited to 9mm ports due to the bottle connection. With tube version of Sniper it should be possible to go for barrel size ports - although that would take additional mods like longer probe nose and moving the o-rings on valve housing.
:( That sounds a little complex.
It is, I wouldn't recommend it as your first project. Just open up the ports and chamber inlet to match the biggest diameter that fits easily and the firing valve allows. Then add the double spring setup. That should give you 250+ fpe.
Oh ok...that sounds a little more achievable for a luddite like me. ;D
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if you only going for hardshots anyway you don't need a .45 or a .50,...rather get a .30 since you already have a .357
I was thinking about that too...but I kinda wanted the .45 and .50 to open up my shooting options to neck shots. Those drop em pretty quick too.
Yeah, neck shots are great and .45 .50 are great calibers for it,.... for neck shots you don't really need more then 200 FPE
Dangit. Now I need to find me a used Sniper.
If you like Pups, that MAX .45 would be perfect for your needs
Yeah...that one looks quite nice. I also like the looks of the Sniper too. I think there's a refurb, too...but it doesn't say the caliber. ???
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Here a pretty solid hog taken with a neck shot from a 200 FPE .50
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=153521.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=153521.0)
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dang...the pictures aren't showing up. I'm trying to remember if I saw them before though. Is this the one where it was a little bloody?
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FYI,
For those interested in the AEA Terminator, they just got a batch in the US. They said they will be selling them for $999 including shipping with two magazines, fill adapters, pack of o-rings.
https://youtu.be/9uh4o4xgju8
Also they said their new website is supposed to be up in a few days from today.
I think it is a cool gun but I am waiting to see either the 338 or the 50 which they messaged me that will be out around April after they complete their Zeus rifle which they are finishing as we speak.
This video shows a number of their guns at the recent Germany weapons show including the crazy Elephant looking Zeus .72 caliber air rifle.
https://youtu.be/Fvl4puyJHHs
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https://youtu.be/BrtNY2JXbBs
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Vaportrail,
Not a rat-a-tat, but I love my Bulldog.
I went back to the oem tube and valve, the balanced valve leaks down and I like my guns always ready, but with that oem valve and .30 porting it still gets 865 FPS with 152 grain NOE hp’s and honestly if I could spend your 1500 bucks, I would buy a 2nd one to put the balanced valve and 4500 ti tube back on and send you the 700 bucks change..
It has a magazine, perhaps the most dependable one your going to find and yes it is ugly but at 250 FPE, I like it. Not to mention that it can get really close to 1 inch at 100 yards these days.
Roachcreek
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https://youtu.be/BrtNY2JXbBs
:o :o :o
Pleasedontbesingleshot, pleasedontbesingleshot, pleasedontbesingleshot
That's quite the monster. Looks like a longer barreled Hercules in a Barrage stock. 700FPE? Hooooo man!
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Vaportrail,
Not a rat-a-tat, but I love my Bulldog.
I went back to the oem tube and valve, the balanced valve leaks down and I like my guns always ready, but with that oem valve and .30 porting it still gets 865 FPS with 152 grain NOE hp’s and honestly if I could spend your 1500 bucks, I would buy a 2nd one to put the balanced valve and 4500 ti tube back on and send you the 700 bucks change..
It has a magazine, perhaps the most dependable one your going to find and yes it is ugly but at 250 FPE, I like it. Not to mention that it can get really close to 1 inch at 100 yards these days.
Roachcreek
You know, that's the thing about the Bulldog...tremendous power right out of the box. I'm going to find me a used Flashpup first and see if I can live with that rear cocking lever.
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Another thing I like about the Bulldog is you can change it to lefty. I was not born wrong handed, but being a cyclops these days forces me to shoot weak handed, being able to change that lever to the left side helped a lot.
Tom Kerrigan convinced me to buy the Bulldog, and taught me how to port it, advice that I am grateful for.
Another thing is the parts are just a phone call away with great service,I have two barreled uppers, one a carbine length, and one full length. After market custom parts are available from Matt at Pitbull who is a fine gentleman.
The Hatsuns just seem too problematic for me and too heavy with the exception of that Fiashpup which is a great rifle from what I have read. Having said that, that video is interesting. Umerex was just a heartbreak for me, in a hammer sort of way, that and they have always seemed underpowered, but that Rainstorm is well, just sexy.
How are you and that Sumatra long getting along, mine gave me 85 FPE today with my new bullet I cast, not bad for a carbine.
Roachcreek
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I'm glad that the BD is working out for you. I'm still hesitant to make the plunge on that rear lever. And while Crosman takes care of you guys in the States, I have no such luck here. I asked about sending out parts herein and they told me "no, sorry... we don't ship parts out to Guam". Oh really now? So how do you ship parts out to your distributor here? Telekinesis?
Yes, they have a distributor here. Can I try ordering through them? Sure...if I didnt have to wait 6-9 months for the part to get here. >:(
I have no idea how they're still in business. And don't get me wrong...I know the family that owns that sporting good store, so it's not like they're complete strangers. Still, though...that's a crying shame.
Hatsan, on the other hand? Flying colors. No problems shipping anything out to me. So, for the time being? Hatsan's being getting a chunk of my money.
Lol...sorry. Talk about a tangent.
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Sorry...I forgot to address the Sumatra. Me an her are getting along just dandy! Loads of power (101FPE) and she absolutely loves the 48gr HP BTs. Interesting note, the 43gr EJs needed to be around 8 clicks out of 16 for reasonable accuracy. The slugs? They're happy at full power. Hole in hole at 30, no too far off at 50. I think it was something like half a mil drop off from the 30yd zero.
I'm going to try ordering some 52gr slugs and see how those work out. The 48gr slugs are zipping right along at 977FPS, so maybe the 52gr one will bring it down to about 900ish.
That's pretty good power for your carbine...especially if its unmodded. I want to send my 500cc one back to Mr. Piatt and ask him to open up all the ports. I think I can hit 120-130FPE if he does that.
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https://youtu.be/BrtNY2JXbBs
:o :o :o
Pleasedontbesingleshot, pleasedontbesingleshot, pleasedontbesingleshot
That's quite the monster. Looks like a longer barreled Hercules in a Barrage stock. 700FPE? Hooooo man!
Sorry buckaroo. Looks like it's a single shot. :(
The search continues.
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Paul, the Terminator is available from New England Airguns for $1200...it was $800 before Christmas. I am so kicking myself in the rear right now for not buying it then....
your other choice would be a Hatsan Hercules Bully. fits the description and $899 new.
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Paul, the Terminator is available from New England Airguns for $1200...it was $800 before Christmas. I am so kicking myself in the rear right now for not buying it then....
your other choice would be a Hatsan Hercules Bully. fits the description and $899 new.
What?!? 800 bucks? Oh fer the crying love of Pete! Dang you, Christmas shopping!!!! You may as well kick me too, while you're at it. 400 bucks! Talk about missed savings! :(
I've also been heavily eyeing that Herc Bully in .45...599 for a refurb. What I'm curious about is the cocking effort...I've read several accounts of people mentioning that it's pretty hard to cock.
I'm currently recovering from some medical expenses, but I think I'll be back in the game shortly. Just gotta drop a couple grand into the CC to keep the FICO gods happy and then it may be time for daddy to get a present for being so good. ;D
Still sooper miffed about missing that 800! Funnit!
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tell me about it. i was like...i dont need another pcp...but then i do. too late now...thats a big change going into New England Airguns pocket.
if you get the Herc Bully for $600 refurb. thats a steal. hard to cock or not. its not going to be "150lbs" like some of the springers. dont get OCD about it man. its the gun youll ever need.
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This thing = LCS puts out a hail storm of lead … ;D this thing in .30 would be 1 nasty air gun …... :o you would have to buy a pellet making machine to keep up with it ... ;)
https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/precharged-pcp/lcs-air-arms-sk-19-automatic-.22-air-rifle/ (https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/precharged-pcp/lcs-air-arms-sk-19-automatic-.22-air-rifle/)
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tell me about it. i was like...i dont need another pcp...but then i do. too late now...thats a big change going into New England Airguns pocket.
if you get the Herc Bully for $600 refurb. thats a steal. hard to cock or not. its not going to be "150lbs" like some of the springers. dont get OCD about it man. its the gun youll ever need.
I replied to some posts on the AEA thread, but I can repeat here. Starting to have doubts about the Terminator, and that's because of the heavy trigger (7lbs for a semi-auto?) and slug issues. Apparently the Termi has issues with slugs; rifling doesn't match the slugs that some people were using. I wonder, though...if an airgun slug would produce more favorable results.
And then there's the trigger. 7lbs? For a single shot hunting rifle, that's acceptable. For a semi-auto airgun? Absolutely not.
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And then there's the trigger. 7lbs? For a single shot hunting rifle, that's acceptable. For a semi-auto airgun? Absolutely not.
But it will shoot full auto, you only have that 7lb pull for the first shot!!! :P
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And then there's the trigger. 7lbs? For a single shot hunting rifle, that's acceptable. For a semi-auto airgun? Absolutely not.
But it will shoot full auto, you only have that 7lb pull for the first shot!!! :P
Wait wait what? Did I miss something? Full auto? I thought it was semi?
If it's full auto...then that might be another story. I'll snatch one up right now!
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The AEA Terminator 357 is semi ,I thinl he was referring to another rifle AEA has .
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Oh? Well, then...it looks like I'll have to take a closer look.
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Paul, the Terminator is available from New England Airguns for $1200...it was $800 before Christmas. I am so kicking myself in the rear right now for not buying it then....
your other choice would be a Hatsan Hercules Bully. fits the description and $899 new.
Look at FieldSupply.com
New Bully, any caliber, $697 and change!
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Oh? Well, then...it looks like I'll have to take a closer look.
LCS has full auto and semi … 19 shot swiss cheese maker ! :D...check it out … I don't think much would survive getting 19 full auto shots like this does … looks like a lot of fun …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGirAlHLvzw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGirAlHLvzw)
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Well well, just look at that. That will be interesting to hear what Huben K1 folks think about this ripoff.
Direct Huben clone that action looks like, all down to the lever siding the drum.
Is there some connection between the companies?
Marko
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Paul, the Terminator is available from New England Airguns for $1200...it was $800 before Christmas. I am so kicking myself in the rear right now for not buying it then....
your other choice would be a Hatsan Hercules Bully. fits the description and $899 new.
Look at FieldSupply.com
New Bully, any caliber, $697 and change!
I wish I could avail myself of those savings. Fieldsupply, huntersupply, tractorsupply...they don't ship out here. So far the cheapest is a refurb on the Hatsan site.
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Oh? Well, then...it looks like I'll have to take a closer look.
LCS has full auto and semi … 19 shot swiss cheese maker ! :D...check it out … I don't think much would survive getting 19 full auto shots like this does … looks like a lot of fun …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGirAlHLvzw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGirAlHLvzw)
While that does look enticing, it's a bit out of my budget range. I can't drop 2k just on one gun. :(
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Who makes this rifle ? never heard of it before.
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Made in USA ?
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This is the first I have heard of this company as well. AOA's web site doesn't list any FPS / FPE numbers on the specs either.
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I guess if the big bores don't cause air gun regulations the powerful full autos will...Just keep it up air gun industry. Just my thoughts, and I hope I'm wrong.
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I agree. I had a discussion with some friends around a campfire a few weeks ago about air gun regulations. As soon as some idiot uses a big bore to commit a homicide, everything will change.
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Who makes this rifle ? never heard of it before.
All I know is LCS, Manny. Dunno if they're made in the US.
etnhunter, triggertreat - I hear you. I hope that doesn't come to pass. :(
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I'd vote for the Hatsan Bully, pretty reasonable with carbon bottle and lot of tuning potential. Although, I've only got my .45 shooting at 250FPE so far, still hoping for 400...
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A Bully is just about at the top of my list. How is yours treating you, Castmaster? I've read about how cocking that sidelever is a little heavy; what's your experience with it?
A .45 is exactly what I'm eyeing, and a big part of that is the 290FPE power levels. You say you're only getting 250? What ammo and weight are you using?
Speaking of ammo...how is the accuracy?
Would definitely like to hear your take on it.
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A Bully is just about at the top of my list. How is yours treating you, Castmaster? I've read about how cocking that sidelever is a little heavy; what's your experience with it?
A .45 is exactly what I'm eyeing, and a big part of that is the 290FPE power levels. You say you're only getting 250? What ammo and weight are you using?
Speaking of ammo...how is the accuracy?
Would definitely like to hear your take on it.
Truthfully, and i know this sounds crazy but, I haven't shot the gun at a single target yet..! Had it a few months but also have a one year old, another on the way, run a mid size electrical company and hardly get the time but I'm determined to tune it before I site it in and I want 920-960FPS with a 196gr Neilson slug at 5-10 shots first. Hardly get tuning time in but enjoy and bought the gun specifically for that purpose. Wish I could give a better out of the box review , maybe i'll put it back together and take some 30yrd groups to report with...
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I hear you. My youngest is 7 months, so 2019 was pretty much a blur. ;D Shooting time is almost nil, but oh well...I have no regrets.
Hopefully this year I'll be able to get a couple more rifles...then I'll probably call it a day and just use what I have.
Hopefully that collection will have a .45 Bully. 8)